US Presidential election 2016

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Infant Jesus of Prague, Dec 4, 2015.

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  1. Beth B

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    Funny! No, seeing our country falling to a liberal would kill me! Lol

    I've done this all my life. I managed campaigns for national and statewide elections. This might not be for everyone, but I'm not bothered by opposition. It's just necessary to address and refute lies about positions and issues. Folks who do not pay attention to current events need to see and hear all sides of an issue. This is a labor of love...for my country... And more importantly, to my faith :)!

    Often, it pays great dividends ....it is also a moral obligation to actively fight for what is right and moral.

    I think it's only killing those who dispise truth.

    But maybe poor infant could use your advice:) he keeps responding to post that I've not posted...poor guy... I think he is confused or it's possible that seeing the truth may actually be killing him :( resorts to cursing and name calling....signs of distress. God bless him.
     
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  2. Beth B

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    View attachment 4769

    Did Donald use the system? Yes, he loved it..he bragged how he used it!

    Donald Trump bragged that he could buy politicians — even the ones sharing the stage with him at a Republican presidential debate.

    Trump was asked about something he said in a previous interview: “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”


    Now Trump is angry because his "brilliant political appointees" didn't figure the Colorado delegate system out in time ...not in time for trump to win. Now he is crying about how unfair it is.


    Well Donald, you bragged how you used the system to routinely file for bankruptcy cheating the system and leaving debtors in the dust. You used politicians to curry favor with campaign donations, and now YOU HAVE THE NERVE to complain that you were cheated? If you had been as brilliant and had hired brilliant people, you should have understood the system that has been in place in Colorado. But no, you're not that smart....and no one is "so bored from your winning so much" . No, they are not tired of winning just yet.
     
  3. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Trump...Lost Colarado delegates because he had hired "non brilliant" people...because he was winning too much. :)

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  4. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The Cruz operatives just can't leave Trump's family alone. First they attacked his wife Melania and now they are attacking his children. Shameful and disgusting but what we have come to expect from Ted's sleazy campaign. When Ted is not busy attacking Trump's family he is busy stealing votes:



    Former CO GOP Chair: Message We're Sending Is "Your Vote Doesn't Matter And Your Voice Doesn't Count"
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...oesnt_matter_and_your_voice_doesnt_count.html


    EXCLUSIVE: Border Patrol Agents Demand GOP Provide ‘Free, Fair and Open Elections in America’
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016...rs-disenfranchised-protect-gop-establishment/


    Michael Savage to Cruz: Renounce Colorado result
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/michael-savage-to-cruz-renounce-colorado-result/

    1 Million Republicans Sidelined

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29750206/angry-donald-trump-blasts-colorado-gop-results-totally





     
  5. Richard67

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    MICHAEL SAVAGE TO CRUZ: RENOUNCE COLORADO RESULT
    Texas senator won all 34 delegates after GOP canceled popular vote


    Calling the Colorado Republican Party’s decision not to hold a primary popular vote a scandal, talk-radio host Michael Savage declared Sen. Ted Cruz should disavow the move and call for a vote.

    “What just happened in Colorado should, frankly, disqualify Cruz, who claims to be a constitutional conservative,” Savage told his listeners Monday.

    Savage said Trump has been “pushed aside by the ‘Republicrat and Demican’ party, which I have told you about since 1994.”

    “I told you we don’t have a democracy. It’s how I rose to fame in the radio business. … I position, as I have been all my life, as a total cynic,” he said.

    “This is a corrupt, rotten system. It’s a one-party system. It’s demagoguery. There is no two-party system. They are the ones who selected Obama. They are the ones who are selecting Hillary. Make no mistake about it.”

    Savage said the “rigged Republican, back-room deal” was “not befitting a free republic” and “something you would expect of Uruguay in the 1940s.”

    “How can Mr. Cruz support a rigged election in Colorado and still claim to be a conservative?”

    As WND reported, Trump erupted on “Fox & Friends” Monday morning after a weekend that saw Cruz sweep all of Colorado’s 34 delegates without a popular vote.

    “I’ve gotten millions … of more votes than Cruz, and I’ve gotten hundreds of delegates more, and we keep fighting, fighting, fighting, and then you have a Colorado where they just get all of these delegates, and it’s not [even] a system,” Trump said. “There was no voting. I didn’t go out there to make a speech or anything. There’s no voting.”

    His comments came after Cruz won the remaining 13 delegates at the weekend’s convention, bringing his total for the state to 34, an outcome he claimed was unfair and just shy of illegal.

    “They offer them trips – they offer them all sorts of things, and you’re allowed to do that,” Trump said, of the method by which some woo delegates. “I mean, you’re allowed to offer trips, and you can buy all these votes. What kind of a system is this? Now, I’m an outsider, and I came into the system and I’m winning the votes by millions of votes. But the system is rigged. It’s crooked.”

    The televised remarks followed a weekend of tweets expressing similarly critical views.

    “How is it possible that the people of the great State of Colorado never got to vote in the Republican Primary? Great anger – totally unfair!” wrote Trump in one Twitter post.

    He followed it up with a second tweet: “The people of Colorado had their vote taken away from them by the phony politicians. Biggest story in politics. This will not be allowed!”

    It was last August when officials with the Republican Party in Colorado decided they would not let voters take part in the early nomination process.

    The Denver Post reported Aug. 25: “The GOP executive committee has voted to cancel the traditional presidential preference poll after the national party changed its rules to require a state’s delegates to support the candidate that wins the caucus vote.” http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/michael-savage-to-cruz-renounce-colorado-result/


    After Ted's thievery and secret dealing in Colorado, I am more curious than ever if he is a Freemason.
     
  6. Mary Ann

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    Ted is ineligible to be President because he is not a natural born citizen. The democrats are just waiting to reveal his ineligibility until Trump is out of the way. Read here for details...
    http://running2016.com/html/canadian_ted.html
     
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  7. Beth B

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  8. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    Does it really matter who gets in? Are any of your candidates moral? Just went through all this last year and I'm sure you've seen our outcome - Justin 'Stylin' Trudeau, Liberal agenda extraordinaire.. Canada's been in trouble since his Daddy came in and gave us abortion back in the 70's :cry:
    Come Holy Spirit, come by means of the powerful intercession of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Your well beloved Spouse...
     
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  10. Dawn2

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    Hi Maryann. Ted Cruz's mom is a US citizen. If a US citizen gives birth abroad, she does does have to obtain US citizenship for her child. The child is born with US citizenship. Still, Cruz went to court to make sure those raising the issue would not be able to. He won. All this info is about Cruz's Dad and none of it is news, but it is not important to this issue. Listing names at length for no reason does not make sense in this article, unless they wanted to emphasize the Spanish language of the names, but for what reason?
     
  11. Richard67

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  12. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Big difference between being an American Citizen and being a Natural Born Citizen. Big, big difference.
     
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  14. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The issue is whether he's a natural-born citizen. Not every US citizen qualifies as a natural-born citizen. Cruz was born in Canada, so he's not a natural-born citizen. The Democrats know this and are fervently praying that Ted is the nominee. The RNC is either stupid or corrupt and complicit with getting Hillary elected.
     
  15. Dawn2

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    none of them are all moral, no. Even Cruz has been accused of cheating on his wife and he never denied it, so I will assume it happened. But it is not a lifestyle for Cruz as it is for Trump. Trump has said he's never asked forgiveness for anything and never has needed to. His morality issues are off the charts compared to Cruz. However, the biggest reasons I fear a Trump presidency are his lack of reason, lack of composure under pressure, and most of all his unexplained espousal of every Democratic party line on every possible issue for most of his life, all the way up to 2008. It is just not possible to honestly change that much on every issue. Since he admits he never considers the ethics of his actions, I conclude that he can't be trusted to actually be faithful to the very conservative line he now claims to believe. I also conclude his long-time alliance with the Clintons makes it doubtful he will be a serious candidate against her. Yes, his morality record influences these two conclusions, but morality is not the only reason.
     
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  16. Richard67

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    Rafael's mother was born a citizen, but renounced it and became a Canadian citizen prior to Cruz's birth. In the 70's Canada didn't allow dual citizens, she renounced and stayed in Canada. And that is why there is no Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) for Rafael Cruz. If his mother renounced citizenship, the US Consulate would not have issued one to Cruz.
     
  17. Beth B

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    View attachment 4775 Despite Trump’s Whining, The Primary Rules Are BENEFITING Him Over Cruz
    By: Jay Caruso | April 11th, 2016 at 02:30 PM | 13


    Donald Trump and his minions have started throwing temper tantrums about the delegate selection process. Ted Cruz had a more prepared team in Colorado and basically wound up with all of the available delegates. Nothing was “stolen” and there were no “shenanigans” (a word that is quickly becoming the favorite of Trump booster Eric Bolling). There are rules in place and Trump’s team didn’t do the necessary work. Simple as that.
    http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/04/11/primary-rules-are-benefiting-trump-over-cruz/
     
  18. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    It does matter who gets in and we all have a duty to vote. God always provides an alternative candidate to the Satanist agenda. For example, there have been candidates who have put America First - Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul and now Donald Trump - but it seems that most "conservatives" are more concerned with a warmongering Neocon, Globalist agenda than with putting Americans first. If Hillary or the RNC establishment candidate gets in you will see more of the same: more wars for "democracy," more outsourcing of what little is left of the American economy, an influx of violent Muslim "migrants" and absolutely no real progress made on abortion or other pressing social issues.
     
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  19. Dawn2

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    The fact that Trump has used eminent domain to buy the property of US citizens who did not want to sell is no talking point. He used his money to out-lawyer regular middle class citizens and took their property (at "market value"--but against their will) to build what? A highway where one was needed? No. A Hospital? No. These qualify, according to a strict reading of the Constitution, like you claim to believe in, as eminent domain. A CASINO DOES NOT.

    Here is one article, but anyone interested can just google "eminent domain" and "Trump" and see the obvious problem. An immoral business man using a wildly liberal interpretation of the constitution now claims to be a conservative and claims to care about the middle class and the working class. What about the rights of these middle and working class people? It is impossible to make the argument, based on facts, that Trump is for the rights of the "little guy". He hates the little guy. Always has. Now he is taking advantage of the "little guys" for a power play of some kind, whether it is for his own benefit or Hilary's, I don't know.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news.../08/19/donald-trumps-abuse-of-eminent-domain/
     
  20. Richard67

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    This is a very simple issue, Ted.

    The Constitution has an additional requirement for president beyond simply being a citizen: in addition, one has to be a Natural Born Citizen, which is a citizen born in the country or on its legal ground (on the soil is the term) and has BOTH parents as citizens at time of birth. This has ALWAYS been the definition of a natural born citizen for literally hundreds of years and was the basis for the phrase in the Constitution. This was affirmed in the 1875 SCOTUS decision of Minor vs Happerset. This has never been an issue until the past 10 years or so ago. And if the Republicans had fought for this requirement we would never have had the past 7 years of Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen himself. I don't care how many globalist lawyers Cruz lines up to agree with him. He is not an Natural Born Citizen.
     
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