The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's easy to speak the truth when you have nothing to loose.:)

    I feel for those, especially our clergy who have loads and loads to loose.:)+

     
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

  3. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Dr Taylor Marshall makes the very good point that if you bless them there’s absolutely no reason why you shouldn’t marry them.

    In fact this is probably the plan.

    Germany's quiet Catholic rebellion on gay blessings and women preachers https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57184533
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

  5. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Yes! What a great pope/saint/prophet.

    Maybe the greatest pope in modern times.

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  6. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Yep. Father Altman’s bishop has asked him to resign because he’s too divisive. Apparently Father said his last Mass yesterday:
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    I hope Bishop Strickland offers him his diocese. Fr Altman is our present day John the Baptist. Persecution for truth telling but as Shakespeare said "this above all to thine owns self be true."
     
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  8. Mary Crowder

    Mary Crowder Archangels

    FatimaPilgrim, This is outrageous! I am sickened over this! I wonder where he will go....?
     
  9. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Neither can I. :cry:
     
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  10. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I agree, Padraig, but God's Patience has yet to run out, though Chastisement cometh!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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  11. indaiatubano

    indaiatubano Archangels

    Francis's Plan To Change The Church Fully Revealed
     
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  12. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Me neither :(:cry:
     
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  13. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    He, and many, will go “underground”. The treatment he is receiving is coming for all the priests who won’t comply. and then it’s coming for all of us who won’t follow them in the diabolical disorientation. And it’s coming a lot quicker than most realize.
     
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  14. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Fr. Altman had a late vocational calling. He entered the priesthood with the keen mind of a lawyer and a strong faith. God prepared him to handle the mantle of a prophet. Prophets have never been appreciated because they are rockers of the boat. Have you ever been a boat where someone's a rocker and you say, "Hey, stop that!" I have.

    John the Baptist was Prophet par excellence; he lost his head. Jesus picked up the mantle (though He was more than a prophet) and He was crucified. Stephen, a deacon, picked up the mantle and he was stoned.

    Acts 7:51 You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, 53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it."

    Prophets are those who swim against the tide and speak the truth just not on forums, but in the public square. For that there is a price to pay. I doubt Fr. Altman will remain quiet, and so I will pray for him. :notworthy:

    But as far as picking up his mantle...:barefoot::coffee::unsure: Will that day come for any of us? Time will tell.

    To hell with timidity!
     
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  15. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Bingo, just more proof that if you're taking flak, you're over the target.

    And I completely agree, to hell with timidity. I for one am ready to stand for Truth and defend and stand with any of these faithful priests, or lay people, who are being persecuted for speaking the Truth.
     
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  16. PurpleFlower

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    Those who have heard more of Fr Altman's homilies than I have (I've only listened to a couple), does he teach the truly hard truths, like humility, self-sacrifice, and obedience? I'm curious, because all I've heard from him is condemnation of the Church hierarchy, governments, and vaccines. I listened to this whole talk here and was disappointed to not hear anything challenging for our own growth in virtue. I'm sure there's much more I haven't heard. But this one was much back-patting, claims of "martyrdom" and the intention of legal challenge instead of obedience. Please someone point me to a homily of his that is hard and challenging to our own souls.
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    Malachi Martin predicted this years ago. An underground Church.
     
  18. Mary Crowder

    Mary Crowder Archangels

    AED, Pope Benedict also prophesied that the Church would become smaller, but more holy.
     
  19. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

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  20. Mario

    Mario Powers

    PF,

    I don't know the answer to your specific question. But in the following homily, Fr. Altman clarifies the meaning of the teaching of Jesus, pertaining to God granting the petition of Christians who are in agreement. If you start at 20:49 it will lead into his worthy clarification. It certainly helped me.:)



    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
     
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