The Synod and Communion

Strange, but I only seem to see anti climate change views on this forum. I'm actually sitting on the fence on the topic but seem to only get anti climate change propaganda here.

 

You make dangerous assumptions in your patronizing posts, a sign of spiritual pride.

I've done missionary work in Port au Prince, the capital of Haiti. Mother Teresa called the slums of Haiti "the poorest place on Earth." So I've seen first hand the ecological degradation that bad government policy creating severe poverty (not overpopulation, not globull warming) can cause.

If you've seen this first hand too, good for you. If not, get off your soapbox, you're gonna get a nose bleed up there.

 

You need to change up your Internet reading habits then. Turn off NCR and NPR and open your horizons.

 

Perhaps you could point to one one two of the propaganda items on the forum to which you refer??

 

Sometimes it seems as if some on the forum only think we need to follow our Holy Father in matters of ex-cathedra pronouncements and this is simply not true. We are obliged to follow his teaching authority in matters of faith and morals as well.

Modern Catholic Dictionaryby Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J.
DOCTRINE.Any truth taught by the Church as necessary for acceptance by the faithful. The truth may be either formally revealed (as the Real Presence), or a theological conclusion (as the canonization of a saint), or part of the natural law (as the sinfulness of contraception). In any case, what makes it doctrine is that the Church authority teaches that it is to be believed. This teaching may be done either solemnly in ex cathedra pronouncements or ordinarily in the perennial exercise of the Church's magisterium or teaching authority. Dogmas are those doctrines which the Church proposes for belief as formally revealed by God. (Etym. Latindoctrina, teaching.)

 

I think that you are being a little unfair to Brian. (Apologies to Brian for speaking about him in the third person).

I agree with you that sometimes his criticism of the Pope, particularly on the Global Warming issue, comes across as more political than Catholic. Nevertheless, it has to be disconcerting to Catholics when the Holy Father is singing from the same hymn sheet as the likes of George Soros on this or any other matter. I don't have to read about Maurice Strong to see that environmental troubles are being used as a step to the one world government that all Christians should beware of.

There is no doubt that third world countries have been exploited and their environment almost destroyed by Mining, Oil and Timber companies. I happen to believe that the Pope, in trying to right these wrongs, has bought into the man made global warming agenda. Unfortunately, there are culprits on either side of the environmental debate. Trouble is that opposing the MMGW crowd automatically lumps us in with the oil and mining magnates who made billions while propping up dictators as they benefited from the decimation of small rural communities as people were pushed off their lands to live in cities. Mixed in with all this is the weapons trade and the manipulation of people by whipping up hatred based on whatever they feared most, whether that be religion or ethnicity.

I see no "good" side of this debate. The Pope, as Peter's successor, has to do what is best for the poorest of the poor. I happen to think that he didn't need to get fully on board with the Global Warming crowd to carry out his mission. By doing so, he is perceived to have nailed his colours to the mast of the most virulent, best organised and most powerful anti-Catholic platform the world has ever seen. My fear is that his zeal for helping the poor now could have long term catastrophic consequences for the Church as this one world government takes shape. If Brian shares this fear, then it isn't anti-Catholic. Brian just needs to be careful that in opposing one crowd who want to rule the world he isn't siding with another crowd who also want to rule the world. There's nothing Catholic about the movers and shakers on either side.

 

I'm with you completely. I personally feel the West engages in demographic warfare against the Third World to maintain their cheap access to Third World strategic reserves. And this is not political or conspiracy theory. Anyone familiar with the Republican authored NSSM 200 document from the early 1970s realizes the GOP is part and parcel of population control.

(And not to put too fine a point on it, but the pope's secular "partners" in advancing his encyclical on the environment were global leaders in population control.)

For this reason and others I'm not Democrat or Republican, I'm independent. There are no "good guys" on the world stage at present, east or west. And there's only a few in Rome at this point, and their voice is muffled at best.

 

Every post on this forum that gives credibility to the global warming hoax and agenda is a propaganda item, and those advancing them are either victims of propaganda, or proponents of it.

It is a socialist/communist hoax, and it is the means by which prophecies of the resurgence of communism are being fulfilled.

 

I have said it before and I will say it again, the reason I was brought to this forum were the "messages from heaven from our Blessed Mother." The overall idea being that there was a satanic group forming a new world order that was going to persecute the church. Therefore, we have the Triumph of The Immaculate Heart of Mary as prophesied at Fatima. I look at the globalists as the perpetrators of this satanic plot. George Soros ia a good representation of these "elitists" plan. I believe his/their agenda is evil.

Global warming and unfettered immigration are centerpieces of their agenda. Does it bother me that our pope is traveling all over the world promoting, amongst other things, this evil agenda, you bet it does.

Does it bother me our pope is ripping into catholics who are trying to fight this agenda and simply live the faith as it was handed down to them, you bet it does.

Does it bother me that people on this forum are insinuating that they are the only ones praying for this holy father, you bet it does.

 

Good for you Brian. We Catholics should all remember that we can't serve two masters. This love affair the secularists have with Pope Francis will end when he has served their purpose. Then the dogs will be unleashed and they will tear him asunder. If the love affair lasts to the end of his papacy, his successor will bear the brunt. I fear for the Pope and the Church.

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...entalist-catholics-do-harm-should-be-combated

December 2, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- LifeSiteNews’ publication of a news story detailing the Pope Francis’ statements on the plane returning from Africa on November 30 has caused much reaction. I will admit it’s hard to believe the pope actually said what he did. I had the same reaction when I saw his comments to the Lutheran Church in Rome about Communion. I would have found it hard to believe if I couldn’t watch the videomyself.

Some reaction to our coverage suggested that we used faulty translation and did not put the pope’s words into context. Therefore we’ve put together the video of the pope’s remarks on the plane about fundamentalist Catholics with the official Vatican English translations (Vatican Information Service) at the bottom of the video. In those instances where the Vatican omitted translation we’ve supplied the missing words.

Therefore you can see for yourself what the pope said, in the context given by the Vatican. We stand by our earlier coverage...​

 

Since this thread is about Communion (the Real Presence) this is a good place to pose this question. Why is it the pope does not genuflect at the consecration or kneel for Adoration, but has been photographed kneeling to wash the feet of Muslim women at Holy Thursday liturgy and kneeling to be blessed by evangelical pastors?


http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/12/bergoglio-man-who-never-kneels-before.html
Bergoglio, the Man who Never Kneels Before God
Antonio Socci

It ‘s now starting to get very depressing, even disquieting….


Bergoglio never kneels in front of the Eucharist during Mass. He doesn’t kneel or, at any rate, doesn’t remain on his knees during Eucharist Adoration; the image of him standing in front of the Blessed Sacrament at the end of the Corpus Domini procession (which he didn’t take part in) is unforgettable.


Now even the opening ceremony of the Holy Door, for the beginning of the Jubilee – is embarrassing! See for yourselves what happened today!

At 6.20 in this video, he opens the Holy Door and remains standing (while the faithful fall to their knees…) A chilling scene! [click here to watch]

Pope John Paul II & Pope Francis

I’d like to remind those who attribute this to problems with his legs, that Bergoglio has knelt many times (and there are many photos around to show this) in other circumstances but he doesn’t do so in front of the Blessed Sacrament!


In addition, I remember that St. John Paul II, in 2000, when he was then already very ill and physically suffering, opened the Holy Door, knelt down and stayed on his knees for some time in prayer! (see the photo on the right).


Is there anyone in the know, who might explain to us the mystery of the man who never kneels [before God]?

Rorate note:



In contrast, on November 28th, Pope Francis knelt in an Anglican shrine in tribute to the Ugandan Anglican martyrs. See the video, below:



[Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana]

 

Sigh. I'm no investigative reporter, but in about 4 seconds, I was able to google "Pope Francis kneeling" and find myriad images of the Pope kneeling in prayer, even some before the Eucharist.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this drivel.

 

This is really the most ridiculous item from the wretched Rorate website that Brian has yet posted!

As bfl says, drivel.

 

Very true. We are also told that the Church will face great trials and tribulations before Our Lady crushes the head of the serpent. My fear is that our generation will be the one that hastens the tribulations. I would rather see our Bishops die a natural death than see them executed in the public square. We need to remain vigilant.

To BrianK: The Pope has sciatica, a pain I'm all to familiar with and one that would be exacerbated by long flights. I'm amazed he can bow before the Blessed Sacrament never mind kneel. What the secular press never mentions is that he always visits the Church of St. Mary Major before and after his trips and dedicates his trips to her protection. He also lays flowers at the Marian shrine in every country he visits. Just because he appears to be mistaken about some things, it doesn't mean he's wrong about everything.

 

Pope Francis suffers from sciatica. I to suffer from sciatica and can tell you first hand,its very difficult to kneal. Sometimes I can but more and more im not able to without great pain.