Yes, I have weaknesses too. And I may be guilty of the same at times. But it doesn't give you license, or prevent me from recognizing the same in you. Maybe my calling it out also reminds me to apply the same discipline to myself.
THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT. I HOPE CONCHITA MAY CLARIFY THIS SO AS TO STOP THE HARM IT CAUSED ON THE TRUE MESSAGES OF GARABANDAL. I DON'T RELY TOO MUCH ABOUT GLENN'S STATEMENT TO SUPPORT THE ISSUE ABOUT ONE WITNESS TO QUOTE CONCHITA THAT OUR LADY HAS SPOKEN ABOUT EXTRA TERRESTIALS. HOWEVER, I ACKNOWLEDGE GLENN'S HARDWORK IN PROMOTING GARABANDAL, EXCEPT THE REVELATION ON EXTRA TERRESITALS! THE ONE WHO PROPAGATE THIS WANTED TO UNDERMINE THE AUTHENTICITY OF GARABANDAL. OUR LADY COULDN'T BE SO ILLOGICAL TO SAY THAT ET'S ARE LIKE MEN! AND SINNED LIKE MEN! AND REDEEMED BY CHRIST. SIR GLENN, TOO MUCH FAITH CAN HARM YOU AND GARABANDAL FOLLOWERS! YOU HAVE TO ANALYZE ALSO THE MESSAGES AND NEVER ACCEPT FICTION FROM REALITY! WHAT WAS YOUR BASIS TO ACCEPT ALL THE MESSAGES IF THEY WERE ONLY HEARSAY AND ANECDOTAL!?????? WHERE WERE YOU THAT TIME? WERE YOU PRESENT WHEN IT WAS REVEALED TO CONCHITA? WHO WAS THAT WINTESS? IS SHE/HE AUTHORIZED BY THE GARABANDAL ORGANIZERS TO COMPILE ALL THE TESTIMONIES? DON'T PROMOTE THIS FALSE TEACHING! UNLESS CONCHITA PERSONALLY CONFIRMED THIS ONE TO YOU!... I HOPE AND DO PRAY THAT GLENN CAN CONFIRM THIS ONE TO CONCHITA.... BUT AGAIN, MY BELIEF EVER BECOMES STRONGER DESPITE THIS ISSUE ON EXTRA TERRESTIALS REVELATION! I HAD ALMOST LOST IT.. BUT GOD ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP MY FAITH ALIVE!!!
Hi Brother Al We are creatures of time and the whole of creation is subject to time. It was God's decision to bring every living creature into existence in time, His time. The bible is full of time lines. The most important is of course , "I will destroy this temple and IN THREE DAYS" will raise it up." God gives us time according to His mercy and justice in order to fulfill his plan of salvation and to accomodate our cooperation with His plan. Indications as to how much time we have to complete phases of this work help us better cope with its demands and expectations. Three score years and ten are not given to everyone but it is a pretty reliable guideline/timeline within which most humans find their place. Everywhere in the world there are timelines and deadlines...from our first day at school to our last day at work. Every day is a timeline and in scropture we are told not to worry about anything else except each day as it comes. Timelines are God's lines and God has drawn the line in the sand as far as the prophesies of Garabandal are concerned. This line is still coming into focus but is becoming clearer as events become nearer. We do well to keep our eyes open and read the times according to what we are shown and what has been revealed to those whom heaven considers worthy witnesses. Timelines are a gift from God. We just have to learn to tell the time and like yourself, brother, I believe the time is now. It is always the time to be ready. The Messages and prophesies of Garabandal, for me, hold most relevance to the present times. Their contents are simple and clear and certain. There may be other sources of warning but as far as I can see Garabandal is coming into its time.
Nothing Nothing needs clarification or confirmation. The records of this revelation have been in full view for many years. Nothing has been hidden. This is not new except to those who have not been aware of it. Our choice is still the same. Acceptance or rejection. Faith or no faith. Deal or no deal. Our Lady is still Our Lady. Conchita is still Conchita. Nothing has been added to the revelations given all those years ago. For me, it has simply served to increase my sense of wonder at God's greatness and goodness. Reasons to be grateful indeed. The starry nights are now more glorious in the knowledge of this dimension of creation. For me, before this revelation, the stars held no life forms. Now they do and it is a form that reflects God's glory and His saving Grace.
Tomdarius, having faith, means I except all of what was said at Garabandal ,whether I understand it or not ( which I do ). YOU CAN'T "CHERRY PICK " THE STATEMENTS MARY MADE , THAT ONLY YOU LIKE OR BELIEVE. You cant apply your limited human understanding, to the unfathomable wisdom of God. BTW, your logic is completely flawed, just because I was not there, or did not witness it, doesn't mean it did not happen, that's ridiculous !! By your logic, no one should believe in Jesus, because none of us where there ? So much for your theory.
C Conchita did not put a timeline on it. She was given indications as to when things will happen. She passed on the timeline that was given to her, or at least that part of it which we are permitted to know. We have been given notice, not by Conchita, but from Our Lady and through the seers.
You are correct. Conchita is Conchita; and Our Lady is Our Lady. But who was the witness who said it on behalf of Conchita? No one knows. Regardless of how long the messages have been kept and documented will not make it free from errors or objection especially if it pertains to a new revelation that the Catholic Church is silent about. Deal or no deal? Its not a choice. Neither is it a game but a grace that I believe. However its my choice to question some of the messages that i find it potentially contradictory to the Catholic faith ( need not to mention again) not to condemn the messages of Garabandal in its entirety but to strenthen further my beliefs when seeds of doubts came in.
There was a statement about Medjugorje once that a lot of people wondered about. It was said the Blessed Virgin said that the most most devout person in the area was a Muslim woman. So I searched and researched and found the statement came from one book written by a very credible writer. It stated that someone said the visionaries or one of them had said this. That's all, someone said. It was not part of the body of messages put out by the church which had collected all the messages. So am I am disparaging God and the Blessed Virgin when I say, well I don't know if this is a true statement from the Virgin Mary? NO, in no way. It is not a canonically accepted book of the Catholic Church which is guided by the Holy Spirit on which I base my belief in God and Jesus Christ. I believe in Garabandal and Medjugorje and that St. John Paul and Mother Teresa believed in them. But that doesn't mean because someone wrote a book with that statement that I believe it's true. I have no idea when the visionaries from Medjugorje were questioned more than once at the Vatican if they were questioned about this or if the Vatican even knew about this. Nor do I know if Conchita was questioned about the statement about aliens at the Vatican or if they even knew about this question of aliens from one book and asked her about it. Tomdarius raised a question about this one point, stating his concerns about it as to how it related to his faith and understanding of Church doctrine. Valid points. He then stated: "BUT AGAIN, MY BELIEF EVER BECOMES STRONGER DESPITE THIS ISSUE ON EXTRA TERRESTIALS REVELATION! I HAD ALMOST LOST IT.. BUT GOD ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP MY FAITH ALIVE!!!" I don't understand what the Virgin said about ETs at Garabandal either as to how it fits in with the Church's teaching about salvation. Hey, it's way above my pay grade, and these are questions that only the visionaries themselves can answer as to exactly what the Virgin said and if the Vatican asked them about it.
Tomdarius , you said "But who was the witness who said it on behalf of Conchita? No one knows." You keep saying the same thing, but pay attention to the board , I have already posted who it is, its no secret ! A well know and respected woman in Spain. Mercedes Salisachs Roviralta was a spanish writer and novelist. She began her career when she was a teenager and published more than thirty five novels. She wrote and published her last novel in 2013 at the age of 97.
In the apparition of Fatima, thousands of witnesses were there when they saw the sun out of its axis spinning and emmiting different rays of colors. The witnesses were from all walks of life including the unbelivers. This event was a public manifestation thus to deny such prodigy would mean to disbelieve and belie all the accounts coming from 100,000+~ spectators including the media . Now, in the specific case of Garabandal on the existence of ETs, it was never made public but a private message between Our Lady and Conchita. What made this revelation public? Unfortunately purely anecdotal and such claim can be true or false especially that the issue is something new to the Catholic faith. Now Glenn, will ur presence (hypothetically) make Garabandal authentic? We cannot say until the warning and mircale come to pass. However, if you were present indeed at that time of the apparition when Our Lady revealed about the ETs that are also redeemed by Christ will resolve this issue. Why? Because of logic. Unless you lie. Which i think you cant.
You can' t use Fatima's miracle as an example of a credible (witness ) because Garabandal will have the same thing happen at the miracle. Again ,you are incorrect about the " Intelligent beings" not being made public, OF COURSE IT WAS , or how would we know about it ? It was written about in several Garabandal books, its no secret. I don't need the Warning & Miracle for absolute proof that Garabandal is authentic. If you think it is not, then How do you explain ? The documentation of over 2000 appearances of our Blessed Mother . The video footage of the host appearing out of thin air on Conchita’s tongue with dozens of witnesses standing next to her, as Mary predicted 15 days earlier. Thousands of photo’s ( and video proof ) of “ecstatic walks” forwards AND BACKWARDS on rocky cow paths, and FALLING BACKWARDS ON THEIR HEADS totally unharmed ! The girls in ecstasy unharmed and unfeeling by doctors poking them with needles, pinching them, burning them with matches, throwing sand in their eyes and shinning bright light trying to make them blink, and could not ! 12 year old Girls in ecstasy being able to lift one another over their heads, BUT 2 men could not lift one girl up ? The Blessed Mother voice was recorded, and a photo taken. Dozens of rosaries, and religious objects placed on one table, in a pile, and after Mary kissed them, the girls ,WITHOUT LOOKING AT ANYONE , managed to return the item to its rightful owners ? The public statements of support for the apparitions by notable Catholic leaders like Pope Paul VI, Saint John Paul II, Saint Padre Pio, Blessed" Mother Teresa, Saint Josemarie Escriva, Saint Madre Maravillas, Blessed Maria Rafols & Mother Maria Naya, Bishop Joao Venancio , Bishop of Fatima, Archbishop Manuel Pio López, of Jalapa (Mexico) , Mother Angelica, to name just some. Mary’s insistence on Repentance, Confession, Mass, Communion, the Rosary, the brown scapular, all indicate that this was of God, for no other explanation is possible. But you want to discount all of this PROOF , because you can't believe Mary said there are other beings in vast universe ??? Faith means NOT having 100% proof, but how much more did Mary need to supply here ?
One of the endearing aspects of Garabandal is the way Our Lady did play games with the seers. They loved it. Our Lady was interested in every aspect of their lives. oops ran out of time again. Will continue later. The Church is not obliged to comment yet. Meantime we have enough to go on. As far as Garabandal is concerned this information about other life forms is not a new revelation. Of course I see Garabandal as the real deal (Must have watched too many game shows) and I beg to differ, once offered by God, Faith is always a choice. It is good to test the spirit but not to put the Lord to the test. We need no further proof if we choose to believe. There is overwhelming evidence to support the truth of Garabandal. This revelation, seemingly new to so many, including myself, comes from within the same context as very other revelation namely the history of Garabandal and this context resonates with truth. I do not wish to waste any more time on comments that seem hell bent on ignoring the reliable witness of those who know and who are privy to special proximity to the mystery. Thank God for those good people. They never undermine faith in the truth.
After reviewing "She Went in Haste to the Mountain" there were several instances of the demonic. This definitely sounds like one of them. Anyone who believes in ETs is delving in the demonic and is heading for a very big fall. So we are to believe that there were other Adam and Eve's or even evolution in the hundreds, thousands, millions, or billions of other planets. "They are like men, tainted by sin, but also redeemed by Christ just like men?" This infers they are different beings than men. The new ADAM redeems beings that are not descended from Adam and Eve. Heresy. The theological implications of this type of thinking is mind boggling. Thousands and thousands of other questions can be now summoned until a whole library is filled with this gibberish. God deliver us from such silliness!
"Good King Wenceslas looked out on a cabbage garden, Bumped into a brussel sprout and said I beg your pardon." God deliver us from such silliness! Once again, very poor logic. Or maybe I am speaking out of turn. Are you a theologian, philosopher or student of logic? Maybe from the same school as Tomdarius. No-one has complicated this except those who doubt. There is infinitely more reason to believe than to doubt. Just look up to the heavens, look out to the Cantabrian hills and all we know from them...then look in. If you still can't see then I can only pray you will.
Never have i doubted about the existence of ETs. I even claimed that i even personally witnessesed and videotaped three events UFOs hovering the skies of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Macau. They were all similar, all black in colors and not the usual disc shape type that I usually expected. Their moves were erratic but at the end of the clip it gave me the impression of the UFO forming a different physical attribute of a certain creature. I will upload it on Youtube And provide you the link. These events , on the other hand, were totally different to the manifestatons given to me by God where His appearances as well as His Mother were surely of divine origin. One instance is the 13 - second clip that I captured in the Philippines where Jesus' face miraculously appeared on Vasulla's head. Yes, I was the one who captured it and it was NOW officially accepted and recognized by TLIG as authentic. Heres the link: And numerous miraculous photos and videos that I captured where Christ and Mary appearing. Such the one below clip I had personally captured last Feb. 2007. The first frame is the image w adjusted tone and contrast to highlight the details. The second one is the actual and untouched clip. The third, is the image that I accidentally found at Google that resembles the preceding image. The issue here is about the claim that these beings are like men, tainted with sins like men and redeemed by Christ. This is a new revelation that should be put in question.
Any talk about aliens or whatever linked to this subject in Garabandal and supposedly confirmed by our Lady of Mount Carmel are false Rumors only, I checked myself these details in the village and this rumor has been denied, the origin of this Rumor from Mercedes Salisachs, a great Lady and eye witnesse of the Apparitions, close to Loli's Family, can not be taken seriously in no way, I hope my message would end this Rumor forever, thank you. Aviso
Glenn can end it[one way or another] . Because Conchita can. I suspect Glenn may have already run such a controversial issue by her. But would not want to drag her into it publicly. I am surprised Glenn and Aviso have such a different opinion.
You beat me to the question Glenn. I have pored through "She went in Haste" a number of times over the years. I know of only one incident that could possibly be interpretted as "from the dark side." And even this is by no means "definite". In fact the Seers did appear to perceive it as demonic - contrary to the prior warning of Our Lady. I refer to the "Vox Montana", the mysterious voice from beyond the darkness of the mountain. So KW, if you know of other "definite" demonic incidents it would be interesting if you can source some quotes?
Aviso, could you explain how and why this holy lady; Mercedes Salisachs, who was an eye witness to the apparitions and close to Loli's family started this rumor? Thank you God Bless
