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Russia and Garabandal

Discussion in 'GARABANDAL LIBRARY' started by non sum dignus, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Oops. I forgot about the language issue. Hope it has been translated. It is a wonderful book. First part about precommunist Russia on eve of the revolution. Second part about her time in Canada running a home for the homeless during the Depression in 1930's.
     
  2. non sum dignus

    non sum dignus New Member

    I am well aware that private revelations do not end up happening exactly as the visionary relates.
    But to take the prophesy and conclude that it will not be 1. Sudden, 2 Led by Russia, 3 Communistic but rather an incremental, led by the USA and secular Capitalism, is a great stretch indeed. The problems of the west are not contrary to the prophesy about Russia.

    Let us remind ourselves of what the prophesy entailed as related by Mary Loli and outlined in this article of the Garabandal Jounal by perhaps the most respected Garabandal reporter, Barry Hanratty;

    http://www.ourlady.ca/info/communism.htm

    "A worldwide communist takeover led by Russia will appear to have succeeded and in the midst of this frightful aggression will be a harrowing persecution of the Church. Priests will have to go into hiding, the churches boarded up and it will become very difficult for the faithful to practice their religion. It will seem as though the Church had disappeared. The duration of this persecution is not known but it will take an act of God, the Warning, to stop it."

    Remember that the Garabandal prophesy about the Russian led Communistic persecution happens "when Communism comes again". It should not be surprising then that for a period of time Russia would not be considered Communist. In addition Putin my well not be the Russian leader at the time of the persecution.
     
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  3. Byron

    Byron Principalities

    I was just going to say the same thing! It is what I fear. The West is trying to oust Putin and put in their very own communist leader. Or Putin may retaliate after all the grief the West is sending his way. Who knows?
     
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  4. Steve79

    Steve79 New Member

    Of course it could happen that way.
     
  5. Steve79

    Steve79 New Member

    That is not something you have to worry about. ;)
     
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  6. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I haven't looked at that book in ages, Carol. Always felt that he summed things up rather directly....if in general. Would seem to go along with the Garabandal messages/warnings.....in part. Perhaps those Cardinals aligning with the current Pope might want to take a look at this summation for their own possible future!!
     
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  7. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

    I read on some sites that the Antifas group was planning the start of a communist revolution in America on November 4. I do not know if this is true
     
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  8. Steve79

    Steve79 New Member

    There are different seers which have in common some points you (respectively Birch) mentioned. Of course nobody has to believe in it. How much of it can be “prayed away” is the question. I hope and trust in God´s mercy so that after the Warnning I fully can convert myself.

    The thoughts that the russian invasion could have to do with defending against a muslim invasion is interesting. You are not the only person who thinks this is possible :) I have read about it a few times. As you said, probably that will be for a multitude of different reasons. Or it´s the way non sum dignus mentioned above.

    My opinion concerning the article: I do not say that the russians make everything for good reasons. But from a Russian perspective there are good reasons to feel threatened. On a higher level it is about strategic interests of the “West” and of Russia. From a simpler point of view it´s just war. And in times of war never happens anything good. Perhaps except for spiritual level.
     
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Luan, I hate to say it but I think that anything is possible. You just reminded me of your post about Columbus Day, I need to read some more about that. These are very scary times.

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    When it comes to war, I truly have a difficult time figuring out who is really doing "what" and for "what" reason. For instance, why and whom would it benefit for the Ukraine's ammunition to be blown up if not Russia? and for what purpose if it is Russia? Is a take over planned? Or do they want to get rid of the firearms so they cannot be used in defense of another country?
    I have many more questions than answers.

    Member "non sum dingus" followed the point I was trying to make and took it a step further, TY. If there is civil unrest in most of the world and Russia is included in this prophecy of civil unrest (which I believe Alois Irlmaier ? has stated) then when it is said a "Russian army" we don't know who will be leading that army. Maybe not Putin, even if the army is of the government.

    It's like we have to look at the world as being upside down or "tilted" as some prophecies state and then do our best to figure out what is going to happen if that be our goal. I think we were given the prophecies so we are somewhat prepared when "the sky is falling" and to remind us to be in a state of grace OR to entirely prevent them from occurring by following what we were told to do but I don't think that is the likely scenario at this point.
     
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  10. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I often thought that "when Communism comes again" could easily refer to those countries once held under the Communist system and "freed" after the break up of the Soviet Union. Many of those now already live in fear again of the renewed aggressive tactics by Russia and are relatively unprotected and distrustful after the Obama backstabbing. Merkel is scared of Putin....already fearful of more energy control. The "refugees" in Europe are already fulfilling their purpose of causing chaos and distrust of leaders in the EU. That sets up a better stage for any "sudden" aggressive move by Russia into Europe beyond their border countries themselves which would come first for this entry. So for some countries already having lived under the Communist system stemming from Russia could "revisit" similar treatment.
     
  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    It seems to me that the statement "when communism returns" is clearly now evident in the many countries who have embraced this godless ideology of faithless progressive minded unadulterated societies such as the America's, most European and many other countries around the world, as well as the very house of God have become. It is the disdain for all of God's law's and in favor of self absorbed enslavement to the world and a extreme distaste for all that is of God. Well here we are. The message of Fatima has come full circle as we can see that indeed communism has spread its errors and it is ruining families, societies and churches.
     
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  12. Arantxa

    Arantxa New Member

    Liberalism as it is happening in the USA is a form of communism. How about Venezuela? Look around the world today and perhaps communism is back again.
     
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  13. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Yes, they have threatened it. After all, it is also the 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution in Oct. However, I think it is foolish to think that they would warn us of a specific date. If anything happens it will not be Nov 4th IMO.
     
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