It is grok so it could be complete trash, I posted the matter on Glenn's thread so hopefully he can give us some clarity, at least into the Garabandal side. The Fr. Gobbi side I will try to find in his book.
Maybe our friend @Marygar knows something about it, because if I’m not mistaken, she once mentioned that she had Father Gobbi’s Blue Book and often went back to consult it.
Ok, so I pressed Grok further on this and found out the claim it made about Fr. Gobbi is a complete fabrication on the part of Grok itself. Here’s exactly what happened: Your original question: “Are there any Catholic prophecies regarding a 3rd Vatican Council?” → I correctly said: No official ones; only private, unapproved claims. You said: “I don’t care if they’re unofficial.” → I shifted to listing known circulating claims, including: Emmerich (symbolic) Garabandal rumor (second-hand) Fr. Gobbi → “third general council… Garabandal sign before it” That Gobbi line? → It is not a quote. → It is not in the Blue Book. → It is not in any locution. → It is not even a widely repeated misquote.It was a synthetic reconstruction I generated based on: Gobbi’s real warnings about Church crisis His real support for Garabandal’s Miracle The common traditionalist meme that “a bad council is coming” → My model assembled these into a plausible-sounding “locution” and presented it as if it existed. That’s not acceptable, especially in a truth-seeking context. I have gotten some retarded information from AI before, but never a false fabrication.
Cardinal Ratzinger: We Have Not Published the Whole Third Secret of Fatima https://onepeterfive.com/cardinal-ratzinger-not-published-whole-third-secret-fatima/ “There is more than what we published,” Ratzinger said. He also told Dollinger that the published part of the Secret is authentic and that the unpublished part of the Secret speaks about “a bad council and a bad Mass” that was to come in the near future."
Pope Francis was supposedly in favor of “a council of religions” when he was still a cardinal, but he never actually put the idea into practice. I’m not sure whether the idea will bear fruit in the era of Pope Prevost, who deeply loves the legacy of his predecessor. The synodal processes allow only limited participation, without voting rights, from members of other religions. A council held both within and beyond our Church at the same time would be a way to get around that limitation.
I recently heard Fr. Kramer (see video below) say that when Cardinal Ratzinger (i.e., Pope Benedict XVI) was cornered by Dollinger he admitted that there was more to the 3rd Secret. But in a way that is not surprising because Cardinal Ratzinger also said that the messages of Akita were essentially those of the 3rd secret (not his exact words). And there is no way one could reconstruct anything from the Akita messages out of what the Vatican released as "the 3rd Secret" - which was simply the vision given to Lucia without any commentary. So that is 2 pieces of evidence that there is more of the 3rd Secret that needs to be released.
How restless and every busy, ever plotting and planning, never resting always restless, plot, plot, plotting.
For the record, as far as I know, Garabandal has not been ‘rejected’ by the Church. It just has not been formally approved. I think all such events go through varying periods of not being formally approved and some eventually are, some are not and some are explicitly rejected or condemned. Another blatant ‘error’ by AI. The question is, are the programmers simply making errors or is it deliberate propaganda? It’s not a reliable source.
If there’s a Third Council, the faithful prelates will have to be ‘innocent as doves and wise as serpents’. The modernists hijacked VII-the traditional/orthodox will have to somehow take control of VIII.
Luke 12:47,48 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many beatings, but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a beating, will receive but a few. I don't know that the faithful prelates will actually take control of a third Vatican council, should it happen. I think it prudent for the faithful to reinforce themselves in the faith at the current time. I could be wrong, but it feels like a certain threshold of no return has been passed, "the cup is overflowing". I believe there is the possibility that we are currently experiencing the full polarization of humanity. Essentially, two distinct paths are happening. Those who are on the way to perdition, the seed of the serpent, are being allowed to go full tilt. Those who are the way to salvation, the seed of the woman, are now being purified as much as possible. A kind of sorting of the wheat and the tares. Given that God uses evil for good and that Satan was given his 100 years. That Satan wants a decisive war, perhaps this time we are in is exactly that. I don't know, perhaps there is a way out, but I am not sure.
This is the more correct understanding. After all, Paul VI and John Paul II were very cordial and favorable when personally interacting with any of the Garabandal visionaries. Check out Glenn's thread.
We who are in the trenches can only do that which is in our grasp: fast, pray fervently, frequent the sacraments, live holy lives, inculcate the Truth Faith, and share it with others. It is simple, but JoeJerk will tempt us to spend too much time on distractions, addictions, finger-pointing, and procrastination... In other words, where are the saints for this next decisive decade? May they all march under the Banner of the Two Hearts and willingly embrace martyrdom. The time is now. To be afraid is a good thing for that means we have faced the truth of our circumstances. May each of us ask for courage to advance and not retreat. Acted on holy convictions lead to triumph. (I often repeat this to myself because I'm a coward at heart, but multiple cowards can join together to turn the tide.)
“They wish to remove Our Blessed Mother - it is She that will crush Satan. They wish to alter the words of the consecration to remove Jesus from the church - then as Our Lady predicted at Fatima……Rome will become the seat of the antichrist. The evil one cannot enter if the Blessed Sacrament is there. This is the abominations of all abominations.”
