According to an Italian website that has basically the same info on it from last week, the Pope ordered the visionaries to reveal the secrets to the commission....
I belive this to be from an honest and good Catholic. I don't think he is telling lies. I am taking this on good Faith. But I have to say this information seems to tie in with many other reports. I believe it to be quite true.
A vision that is still going on cannot be approved because we don't know what will be said in future and/or the future actions of the seers. There is enough fruits therefore for a shrine to be built. But the shrine won't be dedicated to the seers or anything associated with them but will be dedicated to Our Blessed Mother. The Church has to silence the seers to make final judgement. They will probably assign a spiritual director to each potential seer. That spiritual director will report directly to Rome. If the seers deny this action then the Church will probably give negative declaration. Yes the Church can ask for all the secrets...they would compare the visions to the Approved visions that the Vatican is already preparing for. Brother al
I still stick to my guns and say no legitimate seer ever would disobey an order by the Church hierarchy to reveal something. To be fair you are guessing as to whether Bernadette was asked or not and under what circumstances as you admit. In the case of sister Lucy for example. The local bishop told Lucia to write down the third secret. She refused saying that Our Lady had not told her to do this and that the secret was meant for the people not the clergy. Then the bishop ordered her to do it and she did as she was told. So I can definitely see seers keeping things to themselves, even under intense questioning, but if a direct order came down from the hierarchy that they were to reveal it, they would in my humble opinion. Again though, I am not claiming the Medjugorje visionaries were ordered to do this, that is why I said if in my previous post. We are just dealing with rumors at this point, even if they are well founded ones. I don't know what sources we are speaking of, so I am not trying to make any proclamation of their being guilty of this.
I want to thank Padraig for his confidence, I am the one who contacted him privately as indicated on my thread Aviso News, so I will be the only one to whom you have to complain if this news is not confirmed. I promise to give my source from Rome if it's a gossip only because I will not need this kind of source anymore if it's the case but unfortunately I don't think so. Let me be clear again with the classification, this is my own classification, there is even more détails but this classification represent the best the news sent to me, the CDF will not use the same words as they have their own rules but the result should be the same, it looks that some members of the commission are allowed to talk privately to some preparing the minds of the Medjugorje faithful with the blessing of the Pope, the Year of Mercy could be the Year in Question to reveal it officially. But between us, this is nothing, something much more difficult and much more important could be on the way inside the Curia, I will give more détails on my thread Aviso News. Aviso
Sounds about right. I never had a good vibe about Medjugorje. When it comes to private revelation the best way to avoid scandal and disappointment is to remain obedient to the local bishop and then ultimately the bishop of rome.
I wouldn't be surprised if these findings are going to released during the Holy Father's trip to the USA. The timing is right and there is huge support for Medugorje out there. So they may be hoping announcing it during the visit will give it a softer landing. But I am only guessing, still they can't keep the lid on things forever, not with the Italian press.
I find it hard to believe myself, the Church will give a negative pronouncement at this time with all the stir over the Synod. Not saying im right, its just Millions believe in Medj ! Any negative from the Vatican at this turbulent time is just more gas on the fire. Either way the Church pronounces ,we all must bend our knees, its the Catholic way! Truth will always prevail in the end.
I agree they should do it sooner rather than later. Whether it's good or bad for either side of the issue, I think pulling the band aid off quickly is better for all. Get it over with so we can move on. They have already had a long time to mull it over. Unless they are going to wait until spring I don't think anything is going to get easier. We have the synod coming up, then the Pope's pronouncement on the synod recommendations at some point after that, then possible fallout after that.
if this is true, it sounds like Medj will still be a place of pilgrimage, correct? The ruling could be much worse if that is the case. No new messages would be a tremendous loss for the world I don' think a ruling like this would be a "condemnation". But of course, if Heaven wants the world to continue to hear the messages...well, get ready for the secrets.
I believe in the next 2 weeks we will know much. If LTTW comes true and no secret is released from Medj, would this cast doubt on Medj secrets, not foretelling this massive trifold event?But if the trifold event per LTTW doesn't happen much doubt will be cast upon LTTW for sure . Time always tells the story
Financial collapse, nukes going off ...I forget the 3rd. ALL on the same day... Its in the LTTW msgs from Aug 31- sept 7th.....time will tell us
I've no proof to back it up, but I believe Medj to be true. To be honest, a negative ruling, in my own opinion, may herald the beginning of the announcements of the secrets. Just my musings on the matter.
No, it would not cast doubt for me on the secrets. Those/that event, if it happens, simply may not be one of the secrets. I think the secrets will be events we can categorize as an act of God, and not acts of men. What is being predicted at LTTW are acts of men. That's all my opinion only.
Mirjana is the one to announce the dates of the ten secrets to the world through the medium of a priest Fr Petar Ljubicic. She had difficulty remembering all of the dates and sequence of the secrets so they were revealed on a parchment given to her by our Lady. The leak may or may not be true. We may soon find out one way or the other.
We should never say we are certain a prophecy won't happen. That being said I'm certain they won't happen either.
This link is another fake flag....my opinion. The source that provides it undermines its credibility to me. Im no longer a believer in Medj, and ive been there for 10 days and had a very Holy time for sure!!!! Im not throwing any stones, i will accept the Churches pronouncement either which way!!!! as per the source, Broken clocks are right twice a day, but ones on military time are right only once a day....give it time folks.
