Luisa Piccareta

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by padraig, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. josephite

    josephite Powers

    What you say Mary is quoted by Lusia in the current translations...... Jesus tells us in these writings "mans will is the most evil thing there is". Not Satan, Satan just tempts you souls say yes.

    But as Catholics we know Jesus had two natures! He had two wills!
    Jesus had a Human Will and a Divine Will!


    So do you believe Jesus had an evil will?
    Please answer.

    The catholic encyclopedia.....

    Catholic doctrine is simple, the faculty of willing is an integral part of human nature: therefore, our Lord had a human will, since He took a perfect human nature.

    His Divine will
    on the other hand is numerically one with that of the Father and the Holy Ghost. It is therefore necessary to acknowledge two wills in Christ.

    Monothelitism is a heresy of the seventh century, condemned in the Sixth General Council. The Monophysites denied all reality of the human nature of Christ after the Divine and human union at the incarnation!

    If this is your belief; you are not Catholic but you follow the Coptic orthodox beliefs.
     
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  2. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Divine Mercy had translation issues (sound familiar?) that needed to be addressed before approval.

    Luisa's writings were deemed dangerous in their current translations and we are instructed to wait until an approved translation is released.

    World of difference.

    Also - you still did not address my last point. The saints that you now quote to give credence to Luisa's view (as you put forward on the forum) are NOT the same devotion as Luisa'0- s by you and the other followers admission. Let's be open and honest here.
     
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  3. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Wow - excellent!!

    Game, set, match.
     
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  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Thank you - so well said and so very important to pray the Hours of the Passion. God bless you.
     
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  5. josephite

    josephite Powers

    The Truth is the Truth!
    No ifs.... No buts!

    How beautiful is Our Holy Catholic Faith!
    It is Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth!

    Thank you Dearest Lord Jesus, for giving us the Truth. Amen
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
     
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  7. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    I hope not or we are in serious trouble!
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Propagating a particular Devotion is fine.

    But it seems to be spreading throughout the forum so that it becomes a kind of propaganda. Can I ask that folks tone it down a bit? Please open no more threads on the topic and subject yourself to the threads already open.

    I understand you are keen on this. That's fine. Just maybe not to very keen.:);)

    Give folks space to breath.:):)
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Thankyou Padraig.
     
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  10. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Jesus I trust in you!"

    :eek::D
     
  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Typo
    And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it
    Is what i meant
    Thanks for pointing that out, Sanctus
     
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  12. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Jesus I trust in you!"

    No problem, HH.
     
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  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Josephite has discovered that Daniel and the member rest of her seed are Jehovah’s Witness. Daniel has been posing as a Catholic priest.
     
  14. AED

    AED Powers

    This is beyond creepy. Kudos to Josephite for uncovering this.
     
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  15. A good intro to this new life at a link that offers many many videos. The column to the right on the link offers the many choices from those with many years experience of digesting the full writings....including more of this good priest, Fr. Celso, who has been involved with this new devotion for 30+ years as I understand....and from the author of several books that sum up the whole of those interested, Frank Rega, and Fr. Iannuzzi, as well as from the new order of the Benedictine Daughters of the Divine Will....some of their simple cenacles. Fr. Celso's great intro for those just beginning to learn about this big grace:

    https://www.queenofthedivinewill.or...will-with-reverend-father-b-thomas-celso-bdv/
     
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  16. More beautiful talks from Fr. Celso for people to take advantage of in order to learn more. The first one at the top of the page at this link below begins by pointing out the place that this President and the U.S. has always been intended within the DW.....as have other prophecies about him have said as with the holy hermit of Loreto.

    https://www.queenofthedivinewill.org/archives-of-reverend-b-thomas-celsos-weekly-divine-will-talks/

    Padraig, I think you, in particular, will love this talk....esp. about Jesus' presence with us as we are with Him together with the Blessed Sacrament.
     
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  17. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Thank you for this link, I will keep it open in one of my tabs so I can listen to them. Our Catholic faith is so rich in spirtuality if you are looking for it. And Jesus said, Seek and ye shall find. We have around 35 Doctors of the Church that are so worth studying, too. And when you have a question, talk to a Dr.! I have been busy studying St.John of the Cross, lately, he's really deep . . .
     
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  18. Here is Mark Mallett's latest. He has been recently delving into the Divine Will. Good read with good examples...entitled:

    TRUE SONSHIP

    WHAT
    does it mean that Jesus desires to restore to mankind the “Gift of Living in the Divine Will”? Among other things, it is the restoration of true sonship. Let me explain…

    https://www.markmallett.com/blog/2020/01/20/true-sonship/
     
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  19. mb6752

    mb6752 Fiat Voluntas Tua


    You got stuck on my words of mans will is the most evil and didn’t continue quoting when I wrote satan just tempts, souls say yes. I’m not a heretic.

    Mans will is the most evil when it is done instead of Gods Will. Jesus only did The Will Of the Father never His own. Mary only did Gods Will never Her own. Jesus was tempted in the desert by Satan. If Jesus was to act upon the temptation of Satan the act would be more evil than the tempter or the temptation. If Jesus was monotheistic as the heretics believe than Satan couldn’t have tempted Jesus.


    We have known to do God’s Will, the Gift is to live in Gods will. This is where Jesus and Mary lived and only lived. Every breath, heartbeat and circulation of blood reigned in Gods kingdom and created kingdoms. This is how Adam lived before the fall. This is how we return to God perfect as God created us.

    From Jesus and Mary and until Luisa this gift was not here on earth. There wasn’t knowledge of it.

    No one had the knowledge of it.

    The gift is as Jesus, Mary and Luisa did is to fuse (merge, pour what ever verb you use) your will to the Divinity. Your purity of intention.

    The Coptic Church nor Roman had knowledges of living in the Divine Will On Earth as it is in Heaven.

    The Eucharist is the Body, Blood SOUL and DIVINITY of Christ. Jesus did have a human will which He freely gave to God and never knew His own will. The human will is the hardest thing to give up.

    I’m sorry it took so long to respond, this is the greatest gift given to us by God. Nothing is greater. This statement that I just wrote will now be argued by those who have no knowledge of the WHY it’s the greatest gift and their pride will be so grotesque with their response that you literally can fill them rejecting God. I can’t spend much time on this subject because of others pure hatred.

    God gave this gift to all, but not all will accept it. Just like God gave His only begotten Son to all and He is rejected then God gave Himself in the Eucharist and is rejected, God is now giving us this gift freely and it also will be rejected. So why hang out and argue?
     
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  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    We live in God's Will when we are in a state of grace. There needs to be no more flowery embellishment than that, from Luisa or anyone else. And we started to do this when Jesus gave us the Sacraments and established His Church. So let me bow out now and say that I really dispute all of this Luisa stuff with my whole being. I refute and dispute, and because I do not want another flurry of propaganda, I will leave this thread. It is oogey.
     
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