Does anyone really think the period after WWI to WWII was an era of peace that Our Lady of La Sallette was speaking of? Really? Right in the middle of these years was one of the worst depressions the world has seen. I don't think the absence of war is the peace that heaven is revealing. The peace of heaven will be an internal, as well as external era of peace. A time man will reflect on a special grace that has come to earth. Much like the forthcoming Warning will be. This is the best reference to messages of La Sallette I have come across http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1846sallette.asp
In the era of peace people will have turned back to God and live in harmony with God because they will be like prodigal children in relationship with the Father. That is why there will be peace because man will live in harmony with God. Padre Pio called the 20th century the worst century in the history of mankind so how could the era of peace have occurred within the most sinful period of history when man progressively turned away from God?
I think the messages were essentially France-centric. So what went on in the U.S. from 1846 - 1946 may not have any relevance to those prophecies.
That's because it Wasn't THE era of peace following the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. The short, approximately 25 year period, spoken of bears no semblance to what is spoken of in Fatima, Hebrews 4, Revelation 20, and other places.
No one commented at my previous posting of this message. Since yet to be approved messages are included here, Our Lord speaks about the length of the Era of Peace. This is why I join others disagreeing with Emmett and Stephen about the sequence of prophesied events. No offense. ↑ Andy3: Wasn't it at LaSallette that said the era of peace would last maybe 25 years at the most? Andy3, love your posts, they have a great enthusiasm for the Faith. In most of the messages, Our Lord says "I will bring about My Era of Peace" after the Great Tribulation and just Chastisement. You do not read the time frame but look, back to John Leary. Jesus gives Scripture and a time frame for the Era of Peace. Message to John Leary March 31, 2014: Jesus said: “My people, in Isaiah (Is 65:17-25) and the Book of Revelation (Rev 21:1-4), you are seeing a reference to the new heavens and a new earth. In the Era of Peace, that is yet to come, the people in that time will be living a long time. This is why it is said that one, who only lives to a hundred years old, will be considered only a youth compared to the others. This foretelling of the Era of Peace is in the Scriptures, but there are some who do not wish to acknowledge it. Even My Blessed Mother at Fatima, spoke of such a time. This will be the first reward for all of My faithful who will survive the persecution of the tribulation. This will be your preparation to come into heaven. Rejoice, when I will bring about My new heavens and new earth, because man has corrupted My present creation.” http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/2014/04/?cat=3&order=ASC
I think your post inspired me also to defend your position on those that think La Salette's short period is yet to come, and is somehow in line with the Era of Peace Our Lady of Fatima spoke of. I have brought this up many times before, and I think your intuition is aligned in the same way. The idea that this "25 years" is an era yet to come, and is THE era follwing the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart is just not compatible with prophecy and scripture about the Era. I think it minimizes the gravity of the Triumph, and does not make sense, and does not take into account the very words of the visionary about the timing and range of the earlier prophecies in La Salette themselves.
Jon, I have a scenerio for you to consider. Could it be that the 25 years of peace, which our Lady of La Sallette spoke of, are brought about by the Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart (fortold by our Lady of Fatima), which comes immediately after the Warning and Miracle foretold by our Lady of Garabandal? Could it be that our Holy Father, united with the bishops of the world, consecrate Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart after the world and situations "are at there worst" (as per Garabandal prophecy), which brings about the Warning and 25 years of peace (our Lady of La Sallette spoke of) and the era of peace promised by our Lady of Fatima? Could they be one and the same event? Then after the "25 years of good harvests" (fortold by our Lady of La Sallette) men turn worse than they are now, which brings about thee anti-Christ and the major chastisements fortold by our Lady of Akita and Garabandal and many other prophecies, which will usher in the second coming of Christ and His Eucharistic reign of 1000 years? It seems most fitting that this age of Mary, as so many saints, mystics and popes have declared it to be, ends with a complete affirmation from heaven and earth that Mary is mediatrix of all grace, coredemptrix and advocate and that she will usher in the Eucahristic reign of her son Jesus as she did His first coming. I think this is what the great Miracle fortold by our Lady of Garabandal is all about. It will be God's permanent stamp of approval on His Mother Mary on display for the whole world to see.
I suppose it is possible that there could be 25 years between the Miracle and the great chastisements that precede the long Era. However, it is also possible that we are on the cusp of the great chastisements and the long Era already, because the La Salette prophecies are actually about things already completed at this point. I guess it is all in the interpretation of the "Triumph". (i.e. How triumphant is it going to be, when Our Lady says "In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph, ....... and a period of peace will be granted to the world" ?) The peace described in La Salette seems not to be triumphant, and therefore dischordant with Fatima's prophecy, in my opinion.
Jon, in my study of La Sallette I have not read anything in the prophecies that at all indicate there was a 100 year period and/or that this period is over. Please provide me your reference to this. As I indicated before, I use this site that has Imprimatur for my reference to the prophecies from La Sallette http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1846sallette.asp My thinking, and by all means I could be wrong, tells me that everything that Mary has prophesised since 1830 through St. Catherine Laborae to the current period (or what St. Louis De Monfort called the 'age of Mary') will come to a climax at some point soon with the Triumph of her Immaculate Heart and the era of peace. Mary will have received from her son Jesus all honor that he wants to give to His mother for the whole world to see and know. Then after 25 years of the period of peace and the glorification of Mary the world will turn much worse then now and will usher in thee anti-Christ followed by the second coming of Christ and His 1000 year Eucharistic reign. The current tribulation, which includes the Warning and Marian Miracle, will be very hard and full of persecution and chastisments, but the second tribulation, after the era of peace, will be beyond comparison in evil.
Hi Jon, I was surprised when I first read of two Catholic order of events believed. Our Lord is very clear here about the Era of Peace, I hope it helps. Your comments did. I should look for another similar message. Message to John Leary Monday, March 31, 2014 Jesus said: “My people, in Isaiah (Is 65:17-25) and the Book of Revelation (Rev 21:1-4), you are seeing a reference to the new heavens and a new earth. In the Era of Peace, that is yet to come, the people in that time will be living a long time. This is why it is said that one, who only lives to a hundred years old, will be considered only a youth compared to the others. This foretelling of the Era of Peace is in the Scriptures, but there are some who do not wish to acknowledge it. Even My Blessed Mother at Fatima, spoke of such a time. This will be the first reward for all of My faithful who will survive the persecution of the tribulation. This will be your preparation to come into heaven. Rejoice, when I will bring about My new heavens and new earth, because man has corrupted My present creation.” http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/2014/04/?cat=3&order=ASC
Speaking of La Salette does anyone have more/any information on Father Andre Althoffrer? ... The following excerpts are taken from the booklet , THE GREAT SECRET OF FATIMA ,REVEALED BY THE BLESSED VIRGIN HERSELF THROUGH THE EXPLANATION OF THE SECRET OF LA SALETTE. The explanation was given by the Blessed Mother in answer to questions put to her by Fr Andre through an unidentified priviledged soul . On the feast of Our Lady of La Salette sept.19 1962 Our Lady herself had requested that Fr A carefully study the message of La Salette saying'I MYSELF WILL ANSWER EVERY QUESTION GIVEN THAT YOU CARE TO ASK CONCERNING EACH OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OR WARNINGS GIVEN IN MY APPARITIONS AT LA SALETTE.' On the same day the Blessed Virgin also said, THE CHURCH HAS ALSO ENTERED A TERRIBLE WHIRLWIND . SHE WILL EITHER MOVE TOWARDS HER RUIN OR, FINALLY UNDERSTANDING THE GREAT MESSAGE WHICH I GAVE HER AT LA SALETTE , SHE WILL FIND AGAIN THE PATH SHE SHOULD NEVER HAVE ABANDONED.' I have three questions and answers given here which are interesting but I cant locate the book and would like to read more.Im not saying it is authentic but are interested if anyone knows anything?
Here is the first Q and A that I have..... Q .. ' Why is it that this part of the message of La Salette was not to be published until 1858, the year of the apparitions of Lourdes? Did Bernadette know of this message which was until then a secret? A .. The Message of La Salette was given to Melanie,but it was necessary that her confessor and her Bishop should meditate ,pray and wait for the light of the Holy Spirit....Bernadette knew through me about this message , but she had to keep it to herself . [again ,just asking if anyone has the full book?]
Jackie, it seems to me there are two possibilites as it pertains to the era(s) of peace. We know that at least two approved messages (La Sallette and Fatima) speak of an era of peace that Mary ushers in. We know that one is of approximately 25 years, is there a second era of peace through Mary? I have never read of Mary speaking of two era's of peace that she brings to the world. Surely she speaks of a more profound peace (both internal and external peace) not just a period of the absence of a world war that many define was Mary's prophecy from La Sallette? We know of the one that will be ushered in by the 2nd coming of Christ and His 1000 year Eucharistic regin on earth. One of the questions I have, is whether Mary usher's in two era's of peace (one prophesised at La Sallette and one fortold at Fatima) or are they the same event/period? If not, why not? To me it would surely define two distinct era's, one that highlights and belongs to the motherhood of God, Mary's Queenship and her unique roll in salvation history just to name a few and another era of peace that follows that scripture and tradition has longed for since the birth of Christ, which is his second coming. I can see arguements on either of these possibilities using scripture, tradition and prophecy. I would love hear what PeterB or anyone else has to say about this from his/your theological and prophectic background of learning. Are they one in the same event or not? My argument would be that indeed it is possible that there are indeed two tribulation periods. One that is upon us now, which ends in the Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart over the devil and evil followed by (25 years of good harvests) that she fortold at La Sallette. Then as she also fortold the "world will get much worse than now", which, (in my opinion) will at some point to follow manifest thee anti-Christ, Elijia and Enoch returning to earth and the second coming of Christ and 1000 years of his kingdom on earth doing his will. Why do I think this? Because I can see a 'pause' in the world after great tribualtions and death prior to the Warning then the Greatest of all Marian Miracles (this one being permanent in the sky) and all these events will bring about the Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart and there will be no one left on earth that will not know of Mary's unique roll as Mother of God. Jesus will want this before his return.
FYI regarding John Leary: Bishop Mathew H. Clark has declared that John Leary - a Catholic layman who has claimed to have interior visions of Jesus, Mary and some saints, has misjudged ordinary mental prayer for supernatural communication. Bishop Clark also said Leary's messages contain doctrinal errors that run counter to the Catholic Faith. Leary was informed of the Bishops decision through a meeting with Diocesan officials and a June 25th (1999) letter from the Bishop. However, Bishop Clark stressed that the diocese considers Leary a "Faithful Roman Catholic". The Bishop said he will not forbid Leary to publish or teach about the messages he claims to receive during the visions, so long as he points out in his published works that the diocese considers the messages to be of human origin. The bishop’s June 25 letter stated: "The Commission is convinced that you are sincere in your affirmation that these are supernatural (locutions), that you are psychologically healthy and that you have not perpetrated a fraud on the community," the bishop wrote. "Nevertheless, they are persuaded that you have mistaken the normal workings of the mind in the processes of mental prayer for supernatural locutions."
It is just a suggestion, but what did the Mother of God actually mean by, 'The Triumph of My Immaculate Heart'? Say we were t live in an Era were Mary's Heart had Triumphed; what would it look like? If we knew what that might look like we might know better how to place it.
Good questions. I have to say that the end of 'the Marian age' has to climax with a real 'bang'! I think the 'bang' would seem to be a great sign in the heavens. Perhaps the great Miracle that Garabandal foretold. The Triumph would seem to be the end of Satan's era (prophecised by Pope Leo XIII), a time of unification within the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic faith that Jesus instituted. A time of Mary's 4th and final dogma (advocate, mediatrix of all grace and coredemprix) and a great period of internal and external peace for the faithful through the victory of Mary crushing Satan's head! This is my vision.
Yes, the End of Schism, heresy, Judads's in the Church and so on.....but it means much more than that I think. it means, I suspect the destruction of evil, the breaking of the devils neck, so to speak. If you see the paintings and depictions (like Guadalupe) Mary has her foot on the devils neck, she is breaking it. Now how could Mary break the devils neck? Well the only sure way I can think of is that every evil person in the world could get his.her comeuppance right at the one go. Now the only prophecy I know points to that is......guess it..... The Three Days of Darkness!!!
Interesting Padraig that your picture above is Our Lady of Guadalupe which came to me today as I was thinking about the conversion of our country and families back to God. To answer your question about Mary's Immaculate Heart, I guess I can't help but picture it as pierced as Simeon prophesied and indeed as what happened to her in life. Perhaps all our hearts like Mary's will be pierced not only knowing but experiencing in a way not describable the pain endured by Jesus - his suffering for us - but unlike Mary, who never sinned, we will know with unutterable agony that it was our sins and evilness that nailed Jesus to His Cross. Will that be the triumph of her wounded and immaculate heart? Will we know evil for what it is and through our free will and with the divine mercy of a Jesus' Sacred Heart we and the world will either reject evil once for all or not accept His Mercy and continue to retain evilness in our hearts and therefore chose eternal damnation?
Hi, Do you see the year, 1999, John Leary has the approval of the present Bishop to post his messages on the Net, for in the past, when told not to, Leary didn't share them for several years. Even if you do not believe John Leary is true, other contemporary messages agree with his. And holy people earlier were told the same. The Era of Peace is the triumph of the Immaculate Heart, the spiritual millennial reign of Our Lord in the new time, the 7th Day. "Sister Natalia, for example, is a Hungarian nun and mystic whose revelations led in part to Pope Pius XII's designation of May 31 as the "Feast of Mary, Queen of the World." She reported: I saw that when the glorious peace arrives and love reigns, there will be only "one fold and one shepherd." Mary, the mother of all believers, will guide the life of souls, appearing under various forms. She will be the Queen of the Coming Age. ... My Immaculate Mother [Jesus says] will be victorious over sin with her power as Queen. The lily [her symbol] represents the cleansing of the world, the coming age of Paradise, when humanity will live as if without sin. ... When my Immaculate Mother will step on the neck of the serpent, the gates of hell will be closed. [TJ 364-5] Clearly, here the biblical images of the millennial kingdom seem to be applied to her rule in the "New Era" or the "Era of Peace." Such images simply parallel, we should note, the long-standing tradition that Mary has been crowned Queen of Heaven; and if Queen of Heaven, why not also Queen of the millennial kingdom on earth? All three of these roles are perhaps best summed up in a locution to Fr. Gobbi: "I was chosen by the Most Holy Trinity," Mary said, "to become the Mother of the Second Advent, and thus my motherly task is that of preparing the Church and all humanity to receive Jesus, who is returning to you in glory." [TJ 360]...
Fatima, You contribute so much to the forum. In John Leary's message, Our Lord says people do not believe the Era of Peace is what it is prophesied to be. What if He may mean Catholic watchers disagreeing? In my reading the messages, I could be wrong, they only speak of ONE Era of Peace, the Triumph of the Two Hearts. Before the Era of Peace in this the end of the 6th Day, we receive God's help to fight the anti-Christ with the supernatural Warning and Miracle, there's the persecution during the Great Tribulation and the refuges followed by God's Chastisement. Then, God transforms the earth for the new time, the Era of Peace. I am not wise, smart, I am proof, Our Lord would explain for all to understand what is coming. He doesn't reveal everything (Pope Benedict XVI resigning) but we can know the important order of events and what they entail.
