Countdown to the Kingdom

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by bflocatholic, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Anyone with a smidgin of wit could see the writing on the wall for social unrest leading up to and in the aftermath of the coming US elections. The unrest in Europe is ongoing and has been ever present since the banking crisis, popping up intermittently in various countries as election time draws near. It's obvious that it is being stirred up by power hungry mega rich elitists using gullible foot soldiers all claiming to be motivated by their love of the poor, oppressed, animals, the planet or whatever they think they can persuade the masses is the greatest crisis needing whatever solution they are peddling.

    Now, if one or more of these prophets foretold 5, 6, 7 or more years ago that there would be specific events happening in Sept/Oct/Nov this year, they might be worth a second look. Otherwise, they are no more credible to me than someone with a crystal ball telling me that I will be going on a long journey/crossing water/coming into money. Trouble in one or more parts of the world has been ever present since Adam ate the forbidden fruit, so giving dire predictions isn't a sign of genuine private revelation. Adding "pray the Rosary" or "go to Confession" doesn't make them any more convincing. They need to be a little more specific. Did any of them give time, place and description? If they didn't, what makes them prophets rather than pundits?
     
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  2. This is a strange position, which I never want to be in, which is having to root for the devil and yearn for evil in the world, where millions will lose their souls. logically it's not two months, just October. if nothing apocalyptic happens in the month of the rosary, I hope you will be the first to write a letter to cttk asking them to close the site.
     
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  3. Fede

    Fede Archangels

    I was just scrolling through different forums and went into Marian Apparitions. And interestingly enough came across Fr. Michel Rodrigue.

    Below is a clip from a post on October 29, 2019 by earthtoangels...before covid before lockdowns.


    "Within this talk by Fr. Rodrigue:

    http://wqphradio.org/2019/09/21/fr-michel-rodrigue-apostle-of-the-last-times-part2/

    is this:


    First of all, it will be a lot of trouble. This trouble will begin soon. They are already preparing the things now. In the United States, you will see revolution in your streets. You will see people fighting against each other for political reasons, and you will see a lot of things, but it is all managed by the devil"



    There's more to it. But I thought this is quite significant.

    As I said previously, wait and see.
     
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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Anyone who predicts anything like that stands a 50% chance of being correct. So are we saying that no matter what happens in October, someone was correct? I'm with Dolours. Nothing specific mentioned.
    And even though there is political unrest, does that mean that Fr. Rodrigue received that from God in prophecy? I took a course in college called Collective Behavior in 1970 . We studied rioting. Yes, we did. The first stage of rioting is milling. Does knowing this make me a prophet? Does studying Saul Alinsky enable us to see that Antifa might be in our future?
    I was 20 years old when Martin Luther King, Jr was assassinated and I lived in a suburb of Washington, DC and saw the riots on television. Those were some REAL riots.
     
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  5. thomas21

    thomas21 Archangels

    I guess the sign that would convince me that we are in apocalyptic times is that a new ecumenical mass comes out with the words of consecration changed.

    I mean, I see that it is possible based on things the pope has previously said and done and what he might write in his new encyclical.
     
  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I see your point.
     
  7. Fede

    Fede Archangels

    We all have our opinions, however in order, I think to have an informed opinion, one should watch the videos of Fr..Michel. not just the written but watch him..you will get a sense of who he is and the Holy Spirit will enlighten you? All of us.. I've prayed about it. But without actually watching the videos we can't really do that .
     
  8. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Why would you ever "root for the devil". Is that what you think the prophets of God did throughout scripture in the past 6000 years? If so, I feel sorry for you, as you have not understood the past prophets, nor the current ones. Scripture and history are full of prophets who foretold God's messages of eminent chastisements if man continued on its sinful path. Do you not see the state of affairs yet in the world? Prophets were always despised, mocked and laughed at, just as they are today, even by the naysayers on this Catholic forum. Nothing new under the sun. It will be no different this time, as our Lord himself said, it would be just like Noah's time and the time of Sodom when he returned in glory. It sure is! Especially when it is God's baptized who are doing the mocking . Have none of the naysayers taken a close look at God's church today?!! If that alone is not enough to know the of the eminent prophetic pulse of the moment, nothing else going on would seem to matter for you as well either.

    As for the time table and events to come, that Quis ut Deus is asking for clarification to come, well that has been well documented on CTTK and its time-table chart prior to the reign of the Antichrist. Things such as global lawlessness, war, economic collapse and major natural disasters.
     
  9. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    The two bishops who wrote letters disavowing the messages of Fr. Rodrigue knew him personally over a period of years. They supervised his work. They outright said he had made claims that were untrue. Why should we watch videos in light of that?
     
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  10. Mario

    Mario Powers

    May those who encourage the chaos, finance the chaos, and act out to produce chaos come to embrace the Mercy which Jesus offers. May George Soros not die in the state of mortal sin.

    Luke 6:27 But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat , do not withhold your shirt from him either. 30 "Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. 31 "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. 32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 "If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 "If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount. 35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
     
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  11. Fede

    Fede Archangels

    Can you truly say 100% certainty that he is not real? We aren't here to be judge and jury. But if that's what those who are throwing him under the bus want to do, then I think its fair that you first listen, then give your opinion.
    Just as many here believe are being mislead, these same people could also be mislead and blinded by hardness of heart.

    I have watched all his videos and its evident to me that he is a pious man of God. Whether his prophecies are true remains to be seen, but so far I'm leaning very much on that he's for real. And most certainly know in my heart that he is faithful to our Lord more than many many priests I've seen.

    So I'm merely saying before you criticize, you should look and watch for yourself. Don't make decisions and judgements based on what others say.. then your following blindly. I have never just followed..I do my own research and make my own decisions and my own judgement calls.

    I would also like to say and I honestly don't mean any offense to anyone, but being a fairly new member, I see so much pointing of fingers and animosity and really would love to see more love and kindness. Isn't that what we are called to do?
    Lets be a more respectful..we may not all agree, but we can speak with respect and kindness.
     
  12. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    It is a pillar of the Catholic faith that all revelation necessary for salvation ended with the death of the last Apostle. The Church does not require belief in any private revelation. Would God punish people for rejecting your messengers when the Church says it is all right to do so?
    What is the basis of your demand forum members come back and eat crow if they are wrong? The constant use of "slander" and "naysayers"? You say you have studied prophecy for 40 years. What are the fruits of this study? Are they the fruits of the Holy Spirit, or fruits of the flesh?

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    — Galatians 5:22–23

    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.— Galatians 5:19–21
     
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  13. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    Fede,

    You are not showing the respect to the bishops' opinions required of Catholics by canon law.

    "Can you truly say 100% certainty...?" The prophet has the burden of proof. (One cannot prove a negative, also.)

    As to the motives of those who disagree with you on Fr. Rodrigue, consider the Spiritual Works of Mercy, which include counseling the doubtful, instructing the ignorant, and admonishing the sinner.
     
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  14. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Especially if Biden is voted in. I have little doubt that will happen. Yet many of us were surprised 4 years ago.

    I say this based on observations. My personal opinion-
     
  15. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    These lists serve as a great reminder. Yet I did not read "demand or eat cow".

    Very true, public revelation ended with the last apostle. That does not negate select private. We are simply not required to believe any private. That includes Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe....as examples.

    In light of that, how about some charity from the Holy Spirit & our Mother? No chiding each other please. Things will unfold and be made known to us ALL soon enough, as Christ ordains.

    Wow, is our world RIPE with evil!! Bursting
     
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Actually, it is my opinion that if Biden is not elected the war will come within the States itself, as Dem's allies (China, Russia, North Korea and Iran) wage war (short, but very deadly nuclear war on the free world). Trump messed up their nearly utopia of pure communism control of the US when Obama left office, but Biden, if elected, would complete it. These Marxist leaders within the US democratic party, especially in Congress, want to join with China, Russia, North Korea and Iran by crushing freedom. Once they see that Trump is re-elected they will execute their plans to wage war on freedom and America and the free world.

    Here is the bigger picture. It is because of Catholic leaders, starting from the very top of the Vatican, that the world is largely in the position it is in. Evil has always existed, but when it came into the hierarchy of God's one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic church, God has no other option then to clean it all up and lifted his restrainer upon evil for a time. In the end it will get all cleaned up and His Kingdom will come. Our Lady of Fatima's prophecy for peace will come.
     
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  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I am not speaking of revelation necessary for salvation. Prophecy is not necessary for salvation, it is necessary for survival, as scripture explains for those with ears to hear. I am speaking about God, through His justice, purifying His Church and His world. His Word in scripture makes clear this will take place and His prophets are providing the road map of how it will be. Yes, one can close their ears to God's prophets and still get to heaven, but one cannot close ones mind and be prepared for what God's prophets reveal is coming. Why do you think God sends His prophets? We know God said, "For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his plans to his servants, his Prophets" (Amos 3:7). If you and others want to close your ears to the prophets of today, go for it. As for me, I will prepare my family, friends and anyone who has ears to hear. Yet, we know from scripture and 6000 years of human history, most will not heed and prepare and like it was in the day's of Sodom and as it was in the day's of Noah, they will be eating and drinking, married and given in marriage right until the day Noah entered the ark. The water came and took them all away. So it will be this time, when the Son of Man returns in glory. Few will enter the era of peace, the fulfillment of the Lord's prophetic Prayer, "THY KINDGODM COME THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN"
     
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  18. thomas21

    thomas21 Archangels

    You can prove a negative. Philosophers do it all the time by showing a position leads to a logical contradiction.

    The easiest way to disprove Father Michel is to show he's been formally condemned. I have seen both letters and I see no formal condemnation. If you can show me where they unequivically done so, I'll accept he's a false prophet.

    Not that I claim he's a true prophet either. He's just been right so far, so I think what he's saying might happen. Nor did he stop claiming that heaven spoke to him, which is a very bold thing to lie about. Regardless, if Fall goes by without a hitch he will be automatically debunked. And I will have to find some other explanation for "The Great Reset" taking place next year, with the micro-managing of money (central banks lending directly to citizens digitally, which seems to call for digital currency).
     
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  19. Because you have your facts "conveniently" wrong as so much has been quoted, not necessarily coming from Fr. Michel himself, but from others who have written their own "takes" on what they have surmised about him. Meanwhile Fr. Michel continues on the mission that he was given via his alleged mystical experiences within the territory of Quebec diocese, as being permitted to him obviously, but without any connection with either Bishop, as stated by each, other than via mail by post office as stated in writing by the Quebec bishop w/ the openness and hope of Fr. Michel for any further possible collaboration, sent to both as well as to the other authority within said diocese. I might say that, as the future approaches, he will have that collaboration even if only in private!!!

    BTW, just for clarification, within the videos, Fr. Michel says that "great things" would be happening in Oct. Those things could very well be blessed events, the results of the already organized praying of the 54 day rosary that ends on oct. 7 and from the many other organized prayers ongoing for this election and its aftermath and for the reaction of those who have heeded the advice to pray more, receive the Eucharist, and confess. Why people have stipulated a must for some major kind of apocalyptic event, of their own imaginations, to occur in that month alone is far beyond what was actually given. Our Lady is known to recognize such offerings in the past. I don't know that she has changed her way of responding to them suddenly!! Anything of the nuclear inclusion as mentioned by Fr. M could fall out there sometime after the election as perhaps some further desperation, within the whole world itself, not just here, as a reaction to this President continuing in another administration that would further interfere with the diabolical plans' final goal for the NWO. The real criminals of the takeover attempt of power are desperately afraid of any punishment and will do anything if they believe ongoing justice will continue via President Trump. But first they appear to be relying on the chaos of a man mad fraudulent voting. If or when that too backfires one could expect almost anything.

    And I thank God every day for the adamant instruction of Pope JPII that REASON must be included with FAITH!
     
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  20. The Saint and Doctor of the Church who saw all kinds of things into the future, esp. within modern inventions, that very well pertain to our current time:

    SAINT OF THE DAY

    ST. THERESE OF LISIEUX

    St. Therese of Lisieux (1873-1897) was the last of nine children born to Saints Louis and Zelie Martin in Alencon, France. Her family was devoutly religious, and all five surviving siblings, all daughters, entered the convent. From an early age Therese desired to give herself totally to Jesus. Her happy childhood gave way to trial following the death of her mother when she was four years old. This event changed her personality from merry and bright to withdrawn and sensitive. She also suffered a strange illness that brought her near death. Her sisters prayed for her recovery, and Therese was completely healed after she saw the Virgin Mary statue in her room smile down on her. Just before her 14th birthday, on Christmas Eve, Therese had a mystical experience of the Child Jesus. Her sensitiveness disappeared and her faith was greatly fortified. She attended daily Mass with her father and cultivated her strong desire for the salvation of souls. At the age of 15 she obtained special permission to enter the Carmelite convent in Lisieux where two of her sisters were professed. Recognizing her youth and weakness, and unable to do the great things for God in the world that her heart desired, she determined that she would follow the path of spiritual childhood at the feet of Jesus, as his "Little Flower", and instead focus on small acts of kindness for love of Jesus and interior acts of self-denial, a spirituality called "The Little Way." Therese died of Tuberculosis at the age of 24, and her high degree of holiness was discovered through her autobiography, Story of a Soul. Her "Little Way" became profoundly influential around the world, and although she was not a learned scholar, her deep theological life caused Pope St. John Paul II to declare her a Doctor of the Church. She is the patron against sickness, tuberculosis, and loss of parents, as well as of pilots, air crews, florists, missionaries, and the sick. St. Therese of Lisieux's feast day is October 1st.
     
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