Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Video points out unexpected spikes in COVID-19 deaths following vaccine uptake

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/v...s-in-covid-19-deaths-following-vaccine-uptake


    "A June 18 report from the same agency indicated the death rate from COVID is six times higher among those who were fully vaccinated for two weeks or longer than among those who never received a shot.


    In Israel, it was reported June 29 that the vaccine was failing and most new cases of COVID were among the vaccinated. Roughly 60% of the patients in serious conditions had been vaccinated and, according to Hebrew University researchers advising the government, around 90% of newly infected people over the age of 50 are fully vaccinated. "
     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. We must be very discerning these days
     
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  3. andree

    andree Powers

    I can't keep up with what everyone is saying, but this doctor is saying no to mRNA and yes to the classic shots I believe?

    Prof Montagnier is on record saying that many virologists know that mass vaccination during pandemic would cause the variants but they keep quiet out of pressure and fear. But he also is on record saying a long time ago that a healthy immune system can fight off HIV and other viruses, statement which cost him much loss of admiration in the world of science. But bless him, he doesn't seem to care about human respect much.
     
  4. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Does anyone know if its true that the Spanish flu was because of a botched vaccine trialled on soldiers?
     

  5. well it seems there were US soldiers who were vaccinated in a US Camp in the US before they went to Europe
     
  6. Sorry andree, I really am not tracking him so I don't know if he is for mRNA or the classic shots...
     
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  7. Maryland Nurse reports on Covid Vaccine Reactions
     
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  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/covid_survivors_resistance/index.html




    Below is only a portion of this newly published study. Read the entire article.

    In following the patients for months, researchers got a more nuanced view of how the immune system responds to COVID-19 infection. The picture that emerges indicates that the body’s defense shield not only produces an array of neutralizing antibodies but activates certain T and B cells to establish immune memory, offering more sustained defenses against reinfection.

    “We saw that antibody responses, especially IgG antibodies, were not only durable in the vast majority of patients but decayed at a slower rate than previously estimated, which suggests that patients are generating longer-lived plasma cells that can neutralize the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.”

    Ahmed says investigators were surprised to see that convalescent participants also displayed increased immunity against common human coronaviruses as well as SARS-CoV-1, a close relative of the current coronavirus. The study suggests that patients who survived COVID-19 are likely to also possess protective immunity even against some SARS-CoV-2 variants.

    “Vaccines that target other parts of the virus rather than just the spike protein may be more helpful in containing infection as SARS-CoV-2 variants overtake the prevailing strains,” says Ahmed. “This could pave the way for us to design vaccines that address multiple coronaviruses.”

    Researchers say the study more comprehensively identifies the adaptive immune components leading to recovery, and that it will serve as a benchmark for immune memory induced by SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. “We can build on these results to define the progression to long-lived immunity against the new coronavirus, which can guide rational responses when future outbreaks occur,” says Ahmed
     
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  10. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...CoV-2-super-immunity-against-23-variants.aspx


    Scientists identify natural SARS-CoV-2 super immunity against 23 variants
    Below is only a portion of the article….

    Background

    Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the causative pathogen of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), is an enveloped, positive-sense, single-stranded RNA virus belonging to the human beta-coronavirus family. The spike glycoprotein on the viral envelop is composed of two subunits S1 and S2. Of which, the S1 subunit directly binds to the host cell angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor through the receptor-binding domain (RBD) to initiate the viral entry process.

    The majority of therapeutic antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 have been designed based on the native spike protein sequence found in the original Wuhan strain of SARS-CoV-2. Thus, novel viral variants with multiple spike protein mutations may likely develop resistance against these antibodies. In this context, studies have shown that antibodies developed in response to currently available COVID-19 vaccines have less efficiency in neutralizing novel variants of concern (VOCs) of SARS-CoV, including B.1.1.7, B.1.351, P1, and B.1.617.2.

    In the current study, the scientists have isolated and characterized anti-spike RBD antibodies from COVID-19 recovered patients
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  11. miker

    miker Powers

    Thanks for flagging. I look forward to reading in details. But it looks like they are saying natural immunity is protective
     
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  12. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes Miker, and if my limited lay understanding of other papers I’ve read is correct, the experimental “vaccine “ only offers “ protection “ against the Covid 19 specifically. I could be wrong, but once you get it,they cannot administer a different artificial vaccine to already vaccinated people.

    Previously they,… Fauci and Biden said if you got the vaccine, you would not have to mask any longer. Now they have reversed that. I believe they reversed it because the vaccine doesn’t not protect against the variants, however, natural immunity with Covid antibodies are much more likely to protect you….but it’s still possible to get reinfected with a much lesser symptomatic infection with natural antibodies. The vaccine may not protect you from other variants and that is why we are seeing hospitalization of previously vaccinated individuals. They are likely getting infected with a variant. I hope they would at least offer them the ivermectin…because it might be their only hope. Of course they may recover regardless. No guarantees with any of this,

    This is all new ground and the experiment is being conducted on the vaccinated. Many do not know that the vaccine is not FDA approved. It takes many years to develop and test potential vaccines for safety and efficacy, however, this was not done. They rushed this to market to test on everyone. Hence, the government gave immunity from liability to the drug companies that offer the experimental vaccine. If the FDA approves it soon, they may lose the liability protection, however, then the government can mandate that EVERYONE must get it.
    This is why they are suppressing the information revolving it and therapeutic drugs like ivermectin. They are pushing everyone still to get vaccinated. They continue to suppress the serious side effects of the vaccination until they get everyone forced or pressured into getting it. IMHO.

    So, if you’ve already had Covid without the vaccine, get tested for the antibodies and do not get the experimental “ vaccine “ because you’re better protected from reinfection and you’ve eliminated the potential serious side effects of the artificial, unapproved vaccination.

    Again, this is if I am understanding this medical analysis correctly. If you see that my thinking is flawed, please don’t hesitate to correct me.
     
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  13. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Correct!!
     
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  14. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Just some observations.
    1. In my Dream, God told me he did Not want the RNA disturbed by the vax. He created our RNA and it is good. He said there are other alternatives to the covid that have been discussed i.e. Quercetin, ivermectin, hydroxi. The dream was before I knew what RNA is.
    2. My husband had covid last Aug. I am pretty sure I had a milder form. Our Dr. checked our blood for anti bodies, it came back negative. Although I have read where regular antibodies only last a few months, there is another type of antibody that lasts a lifetime and that is what needs to be tested, perhaps they did not test for the right kind.
    3. I know more people with debilitating effects of the vax than I know that have died from covid.
    4. One of my friends and her husband got the vax and just had covid. He had it so bad it went into pneumonia. The Dr. gave them a zpac. The nurse was hesitant on testing them for covid since they had the vax. Test came back positive. They started on quercetin, zinc etc. protocol. Someone, not a Dr., got them some hydroxi. They both recovered with intervention of friend's recommendations, not help from docs. Sad, hey?
    5. I have learned we are being human guinea pigs for a vax that was rushed through and all made to live in fear.
    My .02 for the day.

     
  15. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    My family and I are going nowhere near this shot, it's not a vaccine so I won't call it that. It's diabolical and part of their plan, we must stay away from it.

    All you need to do is step back and wonder, why are they pushing it so hard? Why are they renewing their efforts now to spread new fear about Delta variants (please) and we have to mask up again...because 60% of us in the US have said no to being fully vaccinated which stops their agenda, so now they'll pit us against one another. The ones who took the shot will blame those who refused for what will soon unfold. Why are they doing that? What will unfold now? The vaccine passport will be made mandatory, some people will then create counterfeit ones, just like fake IDs have been getting college kids into bars for eons. Think they don't know that? What comes next...digitized passports that are tied to your social credit score, your shot record, your bank account, your ability to go into stores and theatres...people will fake that, anything can be hacked...think they don't know that? So what's the next step/goal then? A digitized passport which must be implanted into your hand and tied to your dna, can't fake that one...and guess what that implanted passport is :(

    I saw a great shirt at the Freedom Rally last weekend, it said "Tested Positive for Critical Thinking". We need to order up some of those, keep the Faith, God has a plan, but it's time to stand firm and so no, enough :)
     
  16. miker

    miker Powers

    as more news comes out and as these Gov’t people continue to speak and make pronouncements, I have less and less belief in what they are saying. ….. why suppress and remove important details such as what was left out here? It’s a real credibility concern!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...nce-suggesting-covid-vaccine-may-spread-virus
     
  17. thomas21

    thomas21 Archangels

    BINGO!

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/u...dst-warnings-of-state-control-loss-of-freedom

    Unless the great monarch shows up and dispatches some old fashioned, rigid death penalties the criminally insane will make us all slaves soon.
     
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  18. miker

    miker Powers

    I read (not sure fully understand) the actual study in the journal. My impressions are it is well done study-science based. I also believe it’s credibility is enhanced in that it was supported by an NIH grant. Plus Emory is a high quality institution.
     
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  19. miker

    miker Powers

    If I recall correctly, it’s not only this study, but now several other credible studies that have been done demonstrating the protection of natural immunity for people who recovered from Covid. As these vaccine requirements and digital passports continue to be pushed, why are people who fall into this category not afforded the sane “status” as vaccinated people? It seems to me, based upon available dada and evidence that those with natural immunity are at least as well protected than the vaccinated. What is motivation here? And if there are questions or doubts then conduct more studies. I wound happily sign up to be part of a study. (y)
     
  20. Lumena

    Lumena Guest

    Does anyone have knowlege or information about Dandelion Extract as a possible prophylaxis for the Virus ?
     
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