Obviously I agree with some of what you’re saying here. However, we have to be incredibly patient and charitable in everything but especially with this current situation. There are popesplainers like Michael Loften on YouTube and other social media actively gaslighting the faithful to believe there’s nothing to see here, and that anyone raising the alarm is in error if not committing grave sin in doing so. Because “rad trad” Catholics are mostly the ones raising the alarm over the current situation, and there’s a vast bias among the Catholic population at large against traditional Catholics, they’re able to gain traction with their gaslighting by tapping into this bias, and manipulate otherwise good well intentioned viewers and listeners. (“Rad trad” is these gaslighters’ preferred pejorative for anyone who prefers tradition over the post VII paradigm.) So take a step back, realize you’re dealing with your MOG family, and be kind, long suffering and charitable in dealing with this. (All the things I’ve failed at spectacularly in this thread. So who am I to comment…)
I was shown Fr Mark in prayer, on his knees, years from now crying when he realised what a wrong path he had taken about now. It was sad to see.
Matthew 15:13-14 “Every tree that wasn't planted by my Father in heaven will be pulled up by its roots. Forget them. They are blind men leading blind men. When a blind man leads a blind man, they both end up in the ditch.”
I see Cardinal Robert Sarah has let fire with all guns blazing and God bless him for it. Cardinal Sarah has called out this filthy document as , 'Heresy'. Logically then he is describing the authors of this wicked document, Papa Frankie and his sidekick Fernandez, as heretics and he is of course perfectly correct. They are wicked heretics.
You know, Padraig, Fr. Mark is a good priest. I think he is humble in this regard: he thoughtfully took a position of support for the Vatican and people in the trenches went the other way. Rather than quickly reversing to protect his ego, he held his ground. The document is not horrendous but deceptive, allowing the usurpers to move forward. In other words, the document does say that blessing a same-sex couple as individuals is permissible. But the James Martins of the world have hijacked the ball and ignored that restriction, knowing there would be zero repercussions. Africa is up in arms; they see the game plan. Meanwhile, good Fr. Mark is left holding the bag of trust that Fernandez will carry through on enforcing the letter of the law. That bag of trust has holes in it: Fr. Mark will soon admit that his hopes were in vain. We live in evil days.
Thank you Cardinal Sarah for blazing guns! Such a bitter sweet dilemma! God is raising up his saints to right the Bark of Peter! Alleluia!
I am not a Rad Trad. But I think Papa Frankie and Fernandez are both wicked heretics and their filthy depraved document is a blasphemous abomination and I don't care who knows this or doesn't like it. Two rotten evil, depraved heretics, the both of them.
I don’t think many (any?) orthodox traditional minded Catholics are. Frankly the only rad trads I’m aware of are true, “no popes since 1958” sedevacantists; they’re not exactly orthodox in their assertions. And the popesplainers who label anyone who questions the validity of this papacy as “sedevacantists” are particularly vile.
How anyone can defend this wickedness and the diabolical men who unleashed it looses me, it really, really does. It just looses me.
Who imagined before 2013 that a pontificate would emerge so divisive for the Church to the point of dividing even the forum on this issue? I like to read the old threads sometimes and see that the controversies were more focused on the field of private revelations.
After a bit of research looks like this news was released in July 2023 and also the Vatican have known for years about the book.. "He has acknowledged that some of his writings were sent to the Vatican, anonymously, after then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio appointed him as rector of the Catholic University of Argentina in 2009. The controversy resulted in a two-year delay in his being cleared for the job" link below https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/v...ardinal-fern-ndez-defends-book-he-wrote-about
Malachi Martin saw it d coming. He knew the cabal wanted the papacy. He said if that happened it would shred the faith of the greatest saints. He said we must put on sackcloth and ashes and close the curtains and get down on our knees and beg God to be spared. I thought it was hyperbole.How WRONG I was. How prophetic he was. He warned us.
Thank you for a very measured very profound response. I just feel it’s the narrow gate not the brick wall
March 13, 2013. The number 13, corresponding to the day of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fátima, always seemed to me to contain a message in itself, difficult to understand or even identify.
Interesting; in the second half of the 90s, when John Paul II's health was already declining and many were fueling speculation about his successor, the year 2013 seemed so far away (for many, perhaps the second decade of the Era of Peace); however, all this symbolism around the number 13 in Fátima could be indicating the year of the catalyst of the Third Secret, and few probably realized it.
