Are the locutions of LTTW authentic.

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by jerry, Apr 29, 2014.

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Are the locutions of LTTW, locutions.org authentic

  1. yes

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  2. no

    33 vote(s)
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  3. still discerning

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    45.5%
  1. dust

    dust Angels

    I have been. I started in June by accident. I organized a Rosary for a sick friend at our Adoration Chapel; and as God would have it after the Rosary stayed for Adoration, Mass, and followed up with Reconciliation. September will be the fourth month. I love this devotion; it feels like I am actually DOING something.
     
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  2. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    The Promise of the Five First Saturdays
    ". . . I promise to assist at the moment of death,
    with all the graces necessary for salvation, all those who,
    on the First Saturday of five consecutive months shall confess,
    receive Holy Communion, recite five decades of the Rosary,
    and keep Me company for fifteen minutes while meditating
    on the fifteen mysteries of the Rosary,
    with the intention of making reparation to Me."

    Our Lady of Fatima to Sister Lucy 12/10/25

    PRAYER

    O God of infinite goodness and mercy, fill our hearts with a great
    confidence in Our Most Holy Mother, whom we invoke under the title
    of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and grant us by Her most powerful
    intercession, all the graces, spiritual and temporal, which we need.
    We ask this through Christ Our Lord. Amen.
    IMPRIMATUR: +Francis Cardinal Spellman Archbishop of New York
     
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  3. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    LTTW sure did not see this one coming:

    West poised to join forces with Assad in face of Islamic State

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    Covert co-operation may signal the beginning of a once unthinkable alliance

    PATRICK COCKBURN [​IMG]



    Friday 22 August 2014
     

  4. That is some "advice" given by a British MP. And that would change what in the overall scenario of being too late to stop the burning and the tribulation? Joining Assad would include by association joining with Iran and Putin as well. We would be under their thumbs or else endanger our own troops. Besides the fact that such help for Assad would send Syrian Sunnis into the arms of ISIS. Not any kind of answer that would negate what is strategically reported by the messages from heaven's viewpoint that is continuing to be fulfilled as we watch. And meanwhile Russia is still on the move....not only with new founded allies of Iran and Syria (with treaties of convenience with China), but onward in Ukraine....and elsewhere. With our open borders we'll most likely have our hands full here since it is assumed by some that ISIS is already here and making deals with the various traffickers to "escort" more.
     
  5. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    And who do you think funded/trained/and weaponized ISIS? That's right, another miss. ISIS is the creation of the US. These are the "freedom-fighters" that we trained to get rid of Syrian's Assad, ooops, another mistake by the arrogant west and LTTW.
     
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  6. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

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  7. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    There is no arrogant west...God is following His plan. The world is going to pot because OUR leaders are not following His Will. All the world leaders are pretty bad...that is why we are in the situation that we are in. If you blame the west then you lost the whole point. Blame the lack of faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ. The moment the west began to fall away from truth and justice ...was the moment we lost our christian destiny.

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  8. It would be nice if you could read the messages which, again, address all of your mostly "hung up on political point of view only" anyway before offering the ONLY solution which is beyond any current leader. These are a comprehensive overview of just all of these mistakes, pointing out the wrong direction that the U.S. has taken now for decades instead of following its original mission since its founding which itself was providential. All of the mistakes made by the West in the past and which are still being considered to try again are pointed out. Can't see how you deliberately missed them UNLESS you come from a point of view determined NOT to see the obvious. The very reasons for our many previous interferences have been controlled by special interests, the powerful of the world/the monied, etc. and are pointed out. So just where are all those "misses" you are determined to see?? Don't see any purposeful "weaponizing" of ISIS beyond Obama's policies of withdrawing and leaving no supervising troops behind of any force, thus enabling the enemy to take advantage and those without current backup force to run from the devils. This points TO all the messages' own explanations. Sheesh! So spend time praying for the Consecration of Russia if you REALLY want to solve such now apocalyptic fires burning everywhere.

    btw, here is a very heartfelt summation made recently by Msgr Esseff in one of his talks: (his concentration is not upon tactics or latest news but the misery of the victims and the reasons that counting on some type of "moderate" Muslims for help hasn't worked, and not intended to work)....

    http://www.msgrjohnesseff.net/?p=2668
     
  9. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Please, I have read all the "messages." My point is this: if you are a Christian and live in the middle east, the "annihilation" of your culture has occurred not because of Russia, but because of the west. I am dealing with reality, LTTW is pure speculation. Obviously on this point, LTTW misses the mark.
     
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  10. Sorry, but I see no factual basis for your opinion about LTTW so far. Who said that the "annihilation" of that culture is due only to Russia? The wrong actions by the West also have been emphasized. Obama's policies have been mentioned specifically....mostly sitting on the sidelines while the fires grow beyond quenching. The history is that Atheistic Marxism and Islam have cooperated in the past due to the goal of both....to destroy the West and any opposition to their world control aspirations. Russia backs Syria which conflict has started the fires burning between the factions big time. ISIS is flowing out from that holocaust. The Russians of course were over there....Afghanistan....with that history and thus another training territory for radical Islam arose to defend against any and all invaders. Due to the weapons and monetary backing of the shia the sunnis have had to resort for their defense to the worst kind of genocide of just about anyone in their path in order to compete. And it's worked while the cultural character is destroyed along with any and all infidels. And now the Gulf nations who backed the "original" sunnis rebels in Syria are now facing blowback from the vicious version of that same faction now.

    Iran whom Russia also backs is the enabler of Hamas. Russia's influence is gaining strength elsewhere as well like in SA, Cuba, Nicaragua, deals with China, more so than before since Putin's determined aggression is being compared to the West's current fecklessness. All of this diabolical aggressive movement with no real response of any equal measure by the West is speeding things up in the timetable. The only "speculation" left is due to the remaining wait upon man's own free will....since Fatima called for certain measures on our part and the Church's which have not been met. And the messages don't "speculate" about that outcome.....they only reiterate the same promises of help for mankind, that have already been established in Mary's requests of old, and those by her Son's desire. The strong point that Msgr Esseff made (in his talk link above) was that the reason any "moderate" Sunnis haven't fought dependably against the extreme terrorism is that at heart their own ideology, a lie as well, is for the same goal of world domination for Islam. It's stupid to depend on them. And since they all come out of the same godless ideology there will not be any answer for peace through that method. The one true God must be called upon by those who have willingly thrown Him out of their lives....repentance and conversion which will eventually have to be what good can result after all the suffering that is becoming worldwide. All very real as outlined and happening as we are witnessing.
     
  11. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    earthtoangels,

    U.S. Sends Second Carrier to Asia Amid Tensions with China (NOT RUSSIA)

    China demands end to U.S. surveillance flights (spying on everyone!)

    " since Putin's determined aggression is being compared to the West's current fecklessness. All of this diabolical aggressive movement with no real response of any equal measure by the West is speeding things up in the timetable. "

    I believe I have an entirely different outlook on the "aggresors" of this world at this time. I listened to Msgr Essef's first 8 minutes (getting tired of this subject) and I was surprised that he is now calling Islam a false religion where before we worship the same God (from his tape to Osama Bin Laden). My take is that he gets his news from CNN or the mainstream media which I believe is slanted.

    "Diabolical" movement where? Isn't it the west that is currently in Afghanistan, Iraq, killed Kaddafi, arming rebels in Syria, backed the overthrow of Ukraine, behing the implentation of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt,
    etc. The west is printing money in a frantic push for what Herbert Walker Bush first penned the New World Order.

    Putin/Russia may be God's instrument to punish the west because the west's "salt has lost its taste and needs to be thrown under foot". We agree on that part.
     
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  12. Bonaventure

    Bonaventure Guest

  13. You obviously don't know Msgr Esseff, nor his background experience et al. Geo politics are not the core of his concern but rather he operates on the spiritual warfare level. Perhaps you need to comprehend ALL of what he had to say, with much wisdom, just as you ought to not dismiss the messages that actually say what you claim is missing; or don't say what you claim they do. The good Monsignor qualified this particular world threat as an "ideology", a lying system....not a religion at all since it is born of the father of lies. He of course sees that all are still children, in reality, of the same God...recognized or not. That's a big difference. They label it a "religion" and the world uses the same label. Makes no difference. But then perhaps if you had listened to the whole thing instead of, once again, conveniently reading or limit hearing to only what you want to read or hear you could digest heaven's much greater perspective of the big picture. And to rationalize the fact that you did not do this you claim to be tired of the subject but your actions and determination in commentary demonstrate just the opposite. As I said the diabolical movement is worldwide....in the various modes of human destruction and freedoms intended for God's creation and it is all the same; with the same source of evil since the beginning and now with the timetable sped up by inaction of any remaining forces for good. The Red Dragon is Atheistic Marxist Communism as a system of destruction of God's Will for man. It is nearing the end of that promised 100 year period from Pope Leo's vision with the attempt of using this Marxist Communist method of destruction of the world. This is the central point of the Monsignor's talk and it's true. Thus it is now up to Heaven to act on our behalf. It's gone beyond any efforts now of human leaders. They don't know the Source of their only help....as yet. The awakening is yet to come to other regions. If you don't recognize the same diabolical methods and source whether it be ISIS (and all other terrorism), Russian Communism, Chinese Communism, the West's systematized industry of killing the unborn/the unwanted/the "useless" and organized intentions for NWO by the few controllers of monetary system then you fall into the diabolical tactic of diverting attention away from the evil source for all these and get distracted from the only real answer. Now all those regions are joining for a grand conflagration and very quickly. The present world crises everywhere will be the background for the "One" to rise and take control and give "order" backed by a universal secular "religion" for all.

    http://papistfilioquistazymite.blogspot.com/2009/08/vladimir-sergeivich-soloviev-on.html

    Thank goodness heaven has the last word....which we await when The Woman Clothed With The Sun is recognized as the Father desires and whose powerful grace will be unleashed as our saving grace for these times. Apocalyptic times?...yes. Beyond questions of regions and politics and policies of failed human leadership? Too far beyond such small mindedness and limited thinking. We await what we can't imagine on our own and until then we continue to fail .... on our own.
     
  14. WHOA! Preach it earthangel! Amen to that! Thank you! (y)
     
  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I would qualify "not because of Russia". Yes the west (USA) has lost its moral leadership, but don't make Russia look like it is the moral leader of the world. That would be to bury ones head in the sand. Russia (communism) is not dead. It breaths a new heart since the cold war and it has used its deceit to now de facto 'spead its error's througout the world'. Have you not been paying attention as it has 20,000 military along with tanks and planes lined up literally on the border of the Ukraine? Its to late to point fingers at blame. We are now in the 12 hour of justice and the greatest threat to all will soon be your neighbor, as it was in Kibeho, Rwanda.
     
  16. picadillo

    picadillo Guest


    We all know that the interpreter of locutions lets some of his/hers beliefs seep into the messages/translations. I have no doubt that Msgr Essef is a holy man and better suited than I for spiritual warfare. Having said that I believe his geo-political beliefs are way off and have influenced his descriptions of LTTW. How about him watching this video and matching it with some of his commentary on the Ukranian situation.

     
  17. Well, then, this "interpreter" has been chosen by the Blessed Mother herself for her own (and thus heaven's) reasons. No one has to "interpret" messages that are simply given word for word. The commentary seems only to basically repeat the messages. Those commentaries simply show that Msgr Esseff, being the one to choose to release them or not, has been involved with each one in some way. Seems to protect them and the readers. Perhaps the Blessed Mother ought to be keeping up with youtube!

    That youtube btw was nothing more than a hand out to the German people who do not want their economy and esp. their energy which they are dependent upon Russia for to be disturbed. Germany is basically signaling that they will do nothing but offer humanitarian aid. Putin has another check off of permission then to move ahead with his hegemony plans...with those who could possibly interfere somewhat being nice little sheep. And Germany is forced into this position because they cannot rely on anyone else, esp. Obama's U.S., to show any real force.
     

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