‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’

Discussion in 'Positive Critique' started by padraig, Apr 8, 2021.

  1. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Thanks Dolores.

    We are blessed on this forum with people like yourself wonderful thoughtful Christians.

    I'm between a rock and a hard place with regard to the vaccine. Personally I don't want to take it.

    But my son and his wife want me to take one for the sake of my grandson. They have been brainwashed by MSM so if I take a shot it will be for love of my grandson. There is no reasoning with them as they have joined the covid cult.

    Nevertheless they let me see my grandson but it leaves me with some discomfort. God forbid I should ever get covid I'll be in the doghouse and bad books having committed the unforgivable sin of not taking the vaccine.

    The only other alternative is that as I await for an ethical vaccine that I make the decision to not see my grandson except via Skype etc

    Either way it's a lose, lose situation.
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  2. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Difficult situation with your sister, and her son. :( If I were in his shoes and could not see my mother again without the vaccine, I would make the sacrifice and give in. Clearly the vaccine issue has taken on a life of its own.
    We are in the dark, so we have to trust our instincts.
  3. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Thank you. Plenty of people are between a rock and a hard place over this vaccine. It's easy for me because my not taking the vaccine won't have a major impact on anyone else whether or not I contract the virus. Everyone I have close contact with will get the vaccine. Other people have all sorts of family complications. And it's not just personal issues. My heart goes out to people living on the virus compensation payment who maybe had been depending on bonuses or overtime in their jobs to support their family or pay mortgages. Small businesses, too, must be finding it a nightmare. Some of them will have borrowed money to start out on their own. Hairdressers and cafe owners may have rent to pay and some may have borrowed money to buy the equipment needed to operate their business. So many people are finding it tough. They all deserve better.
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  4. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I have no doubt he will take the vaccine if there's no other way to travel. Seems an easy decision. Would you be so sure that you would make the sacrifice to see your mother if you had a son or daughter to consider and had watched that son or daughter take years to get over the loss of your wife after watching her suffer a long illness. Would you think long and hard about whether you would take the risk of putting your son or daughter through that kind of pain a second time?
  5. padraig

    padraig New Member

    IF I need a Certificate of Vaccination in the future I will buy one on the internet. A good one. They will I suspect be very cheap and easily had, even digital ones. . I am certain there will be a brisk trade on such items in the future. It will be very,very easily done. The Irish, like other races, the Italians for instance , tend to think less about keeping unjust laws as ways to get around them. Centuries of oppression have taught us that.

    I would be very surprised indeed if vaccination certs could not be had very easily and cheaply at the moment from somewhere. I have not looked, but human nature being what it is...;):):)

    It goes without saying that immoral, unjust laws do not have to be obeyed.

    Your feet, as we say in Ireland, are not just for dancing with.


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  6. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Yes Dolours I hear you. Family situations are very complicated, and no decision comes easy. Everything about this terrible virus is difficult, and it saddens me when people are forced to make choices like this. :(
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  7. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    At least from footage shown on local news, poor Indians are not given any treatments that work. It is reported too many are suffocating.

    Was that the plan all along?
    Such crime...
    Who will be saved? Those who put all their trust in God & not secular "science?"

    I will give you, in Michigan, our stated numbers are going down.

    So much speculation :unsure:o_O.
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  8. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    This too shall pass. A study in Italy show that the virus was there in September 2o19. . Right now, my selfish concern is that the weather today was cold and wet and I got caught in the rain without a coat. Now I have the sniffles. If it develops into a cold I will spend days being treated like a leper along with dire warnings about needing a covid test.
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  9. My prayers for you, Dolours, in the Holy Rosary a few mins from now.+++
  10. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    You're very kind. Thank you.
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  11. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    The thought crossed my mind too, but then wouldn't that by lying?

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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Here's a video that I think everyone needs to watch irrespective of whether they believe the vaccine is the best thing since sliced bread or the latest weapon of mass destruction. No doubt about Dr. Lee's credentials. He doesn't hide behind technical jargon and he lays out the situation without the usual hype. He has no problem at all with the vaccines but questions the way governments have handled the covid outbreak. It's great to hear someone with qualifications state clearly something that I suspected: that eliminating covid is an impossible dream because, among other reasons, there are animal reservoirs of covid.

    In my opinion, the people advising governments (he says a small group of people all sharing the same paradigm) are to blame for casting science and especially scientists in a bad light.

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  13. RoryRory

    RoryRory Perseverance

    Lisa said she is feeling better mentally. Thank you for praying!
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank God for that grace. Will continue to pray.
  15. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    oh no, this just came of FB from a friend of mine. And so it begins . .

    News Feed posts
    Kathryn Rutherford
    13m ·
    When I declared I would NEVER, EVER take another Covid Vaccine shot in my life because of the side effects I meant it and being admitted to University of Tennessee Hospital, in Knoxville, is just the proof I needed to back up my decision.
    With an undiagnosed auto immune disease the Covid Virus injected into my body had nothing else to do but trigger a faulty immune system to attack my body.
    Things were deteriorating daily until, this morning, I couldn’t stand up on my own, could barely walk, and muscle pain, weakness, and inflammation was present from head to toes.
    After tests, drugs, IV’s, and more, tonight I can stand and actually walk carefully.
    Tomorrow, Neurologists and Internists begin the search for the underlying cause of whatever I have. This day has taken eleven years to arrive. I just didn’t think wishing I were dead would bring any results.
    New Covid shots in the future? HAHAHA!!
    I am an expert restoration artist and I’ll be forging whatever documents are needed in the future to get into Canada and see my family. Nothing is going in this body....ever again.
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  16. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Good to hear this, thank you for the update. May Lisa continue to be uplifted through our prayers.
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  17. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Clips from a series completed October 2019.

    Predictive programming. They know exactly what they’re doing. They planned it all along.

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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Well said.
    Honestly I don't think internet sources should be blindly trusted. For either side of the debate. Often there is a financial angle involved. Every click on you tube is money for these you tubers. Also some of these MDs have merchandise to sell. I find that very off putting. There is a lot of" fear porn " out there for both sides. Fear manipulates us. Prayer and trust in God as you say here. "Fear is useless. What is needed is trust." The Words of Jesus. I stay away from things that ratchet up fear.
  19. AED

    AED Powers

    You nailed it Dolours! Right on target. I am sorry to hear people on the forum have attacked you. That is very disturbing to say the least.
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  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    It was just one person and my regret now is that my pm response was overly harsh. I'll need to take that to Confession as soon as the lockdown is lifted because I should have made allowances for the effect this climate of fear is having on people. It's just as well there was no politician within striking distance of my handbag when I heard my sister say "Please, son, get vaccinated or I'll never see you again". Anyway, prayer is the answer. Fasting too if only I had enough willpower.

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