Who could be the next pope?

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  1. Sam

    Sam Powers

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  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Her messages fit well within the prophetic consensus that all to many ignore/reject. Few will enter the era of peace, because few have come to accept God's plans that have been revealed though his messengers, popes, mystics and saints. Time is very short now. We see major signs in the church and the world unfolding ever day. Evil has the upper hand now, but not for long.
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  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Archangels

    went to check and Sister Elena Leonardi was born in 1910, and Elena Aiello in 1895, really are two different people, I'm sorry for the confusion I made
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  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Archangels

    these messages seem to be the essence of the hidden part of the third secret, I believe that one part talks about the apostasy and another about physical punishments such as wars or disasters
  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    It is also apparent that her messages were a forerunner to the messages from our Lady of Akita (fire falling from the sky) wiping out a great portion of humanity.
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  6. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I think Luan places forth the best and most substantiated time line I have seen so far. I believe he is right.
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  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Do we need to clarify what Communism is at this point? Particularly in the light of the recent article in The Catholic Thing describing the amazing fact that the Portuguese Communist Party recently voted against euthanasia in the Lisbon parliament, thus preventing its introduction. To my mind, the errors of Russia have now passed on to the so-called 'soft' left and in doing so have become even more evil. This soft, or liberal, left which is dominating in Western democracies is the entity that is pushing atheism, paganism, abortion, euthanasia, homosexual so-called marriage, transsexuality and all the other social evils that threaten our societies. It represents an infernal partnership between multinational corporate capitalism and international finance, on the one hand (which St John Paul warned us about, also) and socialism on the other, the satanic child of Communism and Capitalism, which, as far as I can see, is an even greater threat to mankind than the original Communism. The Communists of old had to take power through the barrel of a gun, whereas people are voluntarily queueing up for the latest poison.

    Personally, I think that St John Paul II's attempt at consecrating Russia, though incomplete, effected a partially successful result. There was an extraordinary sequence of events that led to the almost entirely peaceful end of Communism in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. There was some violence in Romania, but the Ceausescu regime was always somewhat different to the rest of those behind the Iron Curtain, while Yugoslavia was a state very much independant from the Soviet bloc. Sadly, it wasn't enough to protect Russia from the depradations of opportunist multinational vultures who quickly exploited the new republic.
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  8. AED

    AED Powers

    Astute analysis IMO.
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    As far as the return of Communism, I think that this prophecy has already occurred but now it is called "Politically Correct" which we often simply refer to as PC. Imo as a result of being "Politically Correct" the world has become more immoral and has lost the sense of sin. Just look at what is happening in the UK in regard to the evil that Tommy Robinson was trying to help expose. This is just one example of course, the same can be said for same sex marriage and homosexuality in general. All of this evil has been pushed on society under the guise of being "Politically Correct".

    I know that many prophecies state that there will be wars and revolutions but we always have that. In addition, any specifics in prophecy can be changed except for those specifics given in scripture but even those are difficult to figure out. I am not saying that there won't be more wars and revolutions during the tribulation but ultimately Our Lady came to help save the Church and I do believe that "Political Correctness" is in direct opposition to our Christian values at least in the way that it has taken hold on our society - in our quest to love the sinner many have forgotten to hate the sin including many of our clergy.:cry:

    You may find the following article to be very interesting on this subject of "Political Correctness" and I found two videos which I believe the author references,

    The Roots of Political Correctness
    By William S. Lind • November 19, 2009 • http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2009/11/19/the-roots-of-political-correctness/

    In response to the killing of 13 American soldiers at Ft. Hood by an Islamic U. S. Army major, a number of senior officials have expressed their fear, not of Islam, but of a possible threat to “diversity.” “Diversity” is one of the many false gods of “Political Correctness.” But what exactly is Political Correctness?

    Political Correctness is cultural Marxism, Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. Its history goes back not to the 1960s but to World War I. Before 1914, Marxist theory said that if a major war broke out in Europe, the workers of every country would join together in a revolution to overthrow capitalism and replace it with international socialism. But when war came, that did not happen. What had gone wrong?

    Two Marxist theorists, Antonio Gramsci in Italy and Georg Lukacs in Hungary, independently came up with the same answer. They said that Western culture and the Christian religion had so “blinded” the working class to its true (Marxist) class interests that Communism was impossible in the West until traditional culture and Christianity were destroyed. When Lukacs became Deputy Commissar for Culture in the short-lived Bela Kun Bolshevik government in Hungary in 1919, one of his first acts was introducing sex education into the Hungarian schools. He knew that destroying traditional sexual morals would be a major step toward destroying Western culture itself.

    Lukacs became a major influence on a Marxist think tank established in 1923 at Frankfurt University in Germany, the Institute for Social Research, commonly known as the Frankfurt School. When Max Horkheimer took over as director of the Frankfurt School in 1930, he set about in earnest to do Lukacs’ bidding by translating Marxism from economic into cultural terms. Other Frankfurt School members devoted to this intellectually difficult task were Theodor Adorno, Eric Fromm, Wilhelm Reich and Herbert Marcuse. Theirs was not the Marxism of the Soviet Union – Moscow considered them heretics – but it was Marxism nonetheless.

    The Frankfurt School’s key to success was crossing Marx with Freud. They argued that just as under capitalism everyone lived in a state of economic oppression, so under Western culture people lived under psychological repression. From psychology they also drew the technique of psychological conditioning. Want to “normalize” homosexuality? Just show television program after television program where the only normal-seeming white male is homosexual.

    In 1933 the Frankfurt School moved from Germany to New York City. There, its products included “critical theory,” which demands constant, destructive criticism of every traditional social institution, starting with the family. It also created a series of “studies in prejudice,” culminating in Adorno’s immensely influential book, The Authoritarian Personality, which argued that anyone who defends traditional culture is a “fascist” and also mentally ill. That is why anyone who now dares defy “PC” gets sent to “sensitivity training,” which is psychological conditioning designed to produce submission.

    In the 1950s and 1960s, Herbert Marcuse translated the abstruse work of the other Frankfurt School thinkers into books college students could understand, such as Eros and Civilization, which became the Bible of the New Left in the 1960s. Marcuse injected the Frankfurt School’s cultural Marxism into the baby boom generation, to the point where it is now that generation’s ideology. We know it as “multiculturalism,” “diversity” or just Political Correctness.

    That is the dirty little secret of Political Correctness, folks: it is a form of Marxism. If the average American knew that, I suspect Political Correctness would be in serious trouble.

    The Ft. Hood killings raise an interesting question: why would Marxists of any variety come to the support of Islam? After all, if the Islamics took over, they would cut Marxists’ throats even before they cut the throats of Christians and Jews. The answer is that cultural Marxism will ally with any force that helps it to achieve its goals, destroying Western culture and Christianity.

    Obviously, there is far more to the history of the Frankfurt School and its creation of Political Correctness than I can cover in a short column. This is just a bare-bones outline. For those who want to learn more (and I hope you do), you can find a short book on the subject, which I edited, on the website of the Free Congress Foundation (www.freecongress.org). Free Congress also produced a short video documentary history of the Frankfurt School, which I’m told is available on Youtube (look under Frankfurt School or under my name). The video is especially valuable because we interviewed the principal American expert on the Frankfurt School, Martin Jay, who was then the chairman of the History Department at Berkeley (and obviously no conservative). He spills the beans.

    Most people in the U. S. military hate Political Correctness, but they don’t know how to fight it. The way to fight it is to find out what it really is, and make sure all your friends find out too. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism, which is to say intellectual Soylent Green. Here more than in anything else, knowledge is a weapon!

    No matter what your opinion may be about the Frankfurt School and this idea that "Political Correctness" is cultural Marxism, I think that we can agree that we are in fact seeing many of these things occurring in the world and their result on our society. In fact, I wonder if part of the reaction from the left in regard to the recent Summit in Singapore between the USA and North Korea is that they realize that if we achieve peace with North Korea and then possibly other nations also then their "down with the man" mentality starts to become very objectionable. I mean if "the man" is now creating peace then how can they hate what "the man" stands for which in the case of President Donald Trump that appears to be Christian values. Two years ago, I never thought I would be thinking this about Donald Trump but it appears to be the case.:cautious:

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    The following video on the Frankfurt School from Ben Shapiro is very good imho,

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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    At the very end of my senior year in college, I was taking a class called Collective Behavior and we used a text by Herbert Marcuse. (state-run college, educating teachers)
    I totally agree with Carol that PC is a part of the false mercy promoted in our Church now, and in our culture as "diversity and tolerance." I just heard on news tv this morning that a county in Maryland (wealthy suburb of DC) is "upgrading" their sex ed curriculum to include more information on transgenderism and more info on birth control. YIKES. (which can be abortifacient, most forms are)
    Yes, Carol, the reaction from the left is to vilify President Trump, to throw up as many scary lawsuits as possible, to harrass his family, etc etc. Probably Obama and HRC are at the root of these efforts. Prayers that the truth will come out and people will be helped.
  11. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Speaking of sex ed and our indoctrination system of brainwashing here in the US... Now, parents are being encouraged to groom their children early to porn and self degradation. It is interesting the way they frame this by beginning with children touching themselves and each other and warning parents not to scold their children for this. They love to shame us (because who scolds a child for an innocent act?) and use this technique as a stepping stone to cross any remaining moral boundary a parent might have as to their childrens development.


    A public university in California features a controversial website that encourages parents to react “positively” when 4-year-olds touch each other’s genitals and says young children should be allowed to watch porn.

    The University of California, Santa Barbara hosts an online platform, within the sociology department, called “SexInfo Online,” which is maintained by students “who have studied advanced topics in human sexuality” that seek to answer a myriad of questions on sexuality, The College Fix reported.

    “The majority of sexual play between children takes place between the ages of 4 and 7,” the website states in a section titled “Childhood Sexuality,” accompanied by a photo of two little girls that appear to be kissing on a beach. “Children might display affection to their friends by hugging and kissing, or touching each other’s genitals, which is perfectly normal. Parents should not react in a negative way because children are just exploring.”

    It adds that parents should intervene only “if the acts are non-consensual or hurtful.”

    In a section titled “Talking To Your Children About Sex” parents are encouraged to let their children watch pornography.

    “It is important that children understand that viewing pornography is a normal habit, and that they do not need to be ashamed of it,” UCSB students wrote.


    The article tells parents how to have “the talk” with their kids.

    “Children and teens do not want to be told what to do, especially when it comes to personal topics such as sex,” the website states. “It is important that parents do not lecture their children, but instead try to present information and have an open discussion about sex. Adolescents will make their own decisions regarding sex and it is up to the parent to give them the information and resources needed to make informed decisions.”

    The school’s department of sociology chair declined to comment and the university did not immediately respond to request for comment.
  12. AED

    AED Powers

    Excellent post Carol.
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  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    That says it all, the declined to comment part:mad:
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  14. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    AED, Thank you.

    Some of the following has already been posted on MOG but I am posting them here in case some members have not seen them before. In addition, they relate to my other post on "Political Correctness" and the Frankfurt School. The point I am trying to make is that I really do think that we are very close to the point where the world is at its worst which I believe is the tribulation that precedes the Warning. At times, I have believed that this tribulation could include a very devastating war but I also believe that it is possible that may be part of the Chastisement prophecy from Garabandal.

    “Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” - Theodore Dalrymple @46min. mark

    Romanian doctor makes blunt, powerful plea to pope and bishops in her Synod talk
    LifeSiteNews climate change, cultural marxism, evangelization, pope francis, synod on the family
    The Church’s mission is to save souls. Evil, in this world, comes from sin. Not from income disparity or “climate change”.

    ROME, October 17, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Dr. Anca-Maria Cernea, Doctor at the Center for Diagnosis and Treatment-Victor Babes and President of the Association of Catholic Doctors of Bucharest (Romania) made the following presentation to Pope Francis and the Synod bishops on Friday:

    Your Holiness, Synod Fathers, Brothers and Sisters, I represent the Association of Catholic Doctors from Bucharest.

    I am from the Romanian Greek Catholic Church.

    My father was a Christian political leader, who was imprisoned by the communists for 17 years. My parents were engaged to marry, but their wedding took place 17 years later.

    My mother waited all those years for my father, although she didn’t even know if he was still alive. They have been heroically faithful to God and to their engagement.

    Their example shows that God’s grace can overcame terrible social circumstances and material poverty.

    We, as Catholic doctors, defending life and family, can see this is, first of all, a spiritual battle.

    Material poverty and consumerism are not the primary cause of the family crisis.

    The primary cause of the sexual and cultural revolution is ideological.

    Our Lady of Fatima has said that Russia’s errors would spread all over the world.

    It was first done under a violent form, classical Marxism, by killing tens of millions.

    Now it’s being done mostly by cultural Marxism. There is continuity from Lenin’s sex revolution, through Gramsci and the Frankfurt school, to the current-day gay-rights and gender ideology.

    Classical Marxism pretended to redesign society, through violent take-over of property.

    Now the revolution goes deeper; it pretends to redefine family, sex identity and human nature.

    This ideology calls itself progressive. But it is nothing else than the ancient serpent’s offer, for man to take control, to replace God, to arrange salvation here, in this world.

    It’s an error of religious nature, it’s Gnosticism.

    It’s the task of the shepherds to recognize it, and warn the flock against this danger.

    “Seek ye therefore first the Kingdom of God, and His justice, and all these things shall be added unto you.”

    The Church’s mission is to save souls. Evil, in this world, comes from sin. Not from income disparity or “climate change”.

    The solution is: Evangelization. Conversion.

    Not an ever increasing government control. Not a world government. These are nowadays the main agents imposing cultural Marxism to our nations, under the form of population control, reproductive health, gay rights, gender education, and so on.

    What the world needs nowadays is not limitation of freedom, but real freedom, liberation from sin. Salvation.

    Our Church was suppressed by the soviet occupation. But none of our 12 bishops betrayed their communion with the Holy Father. Our Church survived thanks to our bishops’ determination and example in resisting prisons and terror.

    Our bishops asked the community not to follow the world. Not to cooperate with the communists.

    Now we need Rome to tell the world: “Repent of your sins and turn to God for the Kingdom of Heaven is near”.

    Not only us, the Catholic laity, but also many Christian Orthodox are anxiously praying for this Synod. Because, as they say, if the Catholic Church gives in to the spirit of this world, it is going to be very difficult for all the other Christians to resist it.

    [01738-EN.01] [Original text: English]
    I know that the Pope is very busy but I wonder if Dr. Anca-Maria Cernea received a call from Pope Francis.
    I also wonder if this letter was misplaced or forgotten about also.

    Let us continue to pray the Rosary and to pray for the Holy Father.

    Finally, here is a link to one more article that touches on this subject along with a brief paragraph from this article,

    The Roots of Violence is the Hatred of the Truth – Dialectical Neo-Communism in America
    by Maike Hickson | August 24, 2017 https://onepeterfive.com/roots-violence-hatred-truth-dialectical-neo-communism-america/
    The neo-Marxists such as the thinkers of the Frankfurt School developed further theories about people and groups which are minorities and which feel suppressed and thus could become an element with “revolutionary potential.” In German, we call it the “Minderheitentheorie” (minority theory), or Herbert Marcuse’s “Randgruppenstrategie” (strategy of minorities). It is simply a replacing of the workers as a suppressed group by other groups in that society that are marginalized or otherwise disadvantaged. The idea remains the same: to push those groups that feel (or are, in fact) unjustly treated or suppressed into an organized and ardent form of resistance. As we all remember, it was Barack Obama himself who had learned such a communist-cultural strategy from the radical doctrines of Saul Alinsky. Such minority groups could be just about anyone who could be talked into feeling disrespected: women, children, the unemployed, different ethnic minorities, the handicapped, the workers, and so on.
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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am feeling that the world is very close to being at its worst as well.
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  16. picadillo

    picadillo Powers

    Thank you Carol55.

    "The Church’s mission is to save souls. Evil, in this world, comes from sin. Not from income disparity or “climate change”.

    Please. Somebody teach this to PF and the vatican.
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Paedophilia by stealth. It is horrific child-abuse to encourage sex among children. It is absolutely satanic and monstrous. The proponents of this should be, at the very least, emasculated, and it probably would be best that they be executed, so harmful is what they promote. Our Lord condemned these types in the sternest possible way. It would be better that we be taken over by the Mohammedans than let these people have their way-if we won't deal with them, the Mohammedans certainly will.
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Hard not to think so.
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  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Dear Prayer Warrior friends
    Taking this opportunity to thank you for the many prayers and encouragement. I am in my doctor's words recovering nicely and tests show no Lyme and no mono. So grateful to be finally on the mend and I know it is your prayers. Many thanks and God bless you all abundantly.

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