Wars and rumors of wars on the TLM and Summorum Pontificum”?

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  1. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Wow, wonderful, beautiful. What an edifying story. No wonder your input to this forum often feels saintly, probably because of this and the immense suffering you've been through.
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I agree!!!!
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  3. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

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  4. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    I went to my first Latin Mass because I was curious, I continued going as often as I could because of the mystical and beautiful presentation of the Mass, I fell in love with it after buying my Missal and reading all the prayers and rubics of the mass :love:

    I love my NO parish priest but there is no doubt in my heart that if I was able to go to a TLM every Sunday (or daily) I would so do that. My life heart feels gentled by the TLM and my soul takes flight :love:

    (I need an emogi with wings :D)
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Lovely post.
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  6. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I've always appreciated the frankness of African Cardinals such as Sarah and Arinze. This was given 4 years ago, but still rings true.

    Safe in the Barque of Peter!
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  7. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Wow, wonderful yes the TLM does this to our souls, it lifts our hearts and souls.
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  8. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Safe in the Barque of Peter!
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  9. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Very interesting.
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  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    This video is more proof that we were so deceived, and we never questioned the changes after the Second Vatican Council.

    We were obedient, trusting, totally unaware that those in authority over us could be used as tools by the devil to destroy the Church founded by Jesus Christ. And we the sheep of the fold were thrown to the wolves, where we have to fend for ourselves pretty much.

    God help and preserve us. God grant the courage needed by those with authority to guide us on the safe path which leads home to Heaven.

    The devil has found a way to turn obedience against God. We must question orders that go against the Ten Commandments.

    I think poor Pope Francis was obliged to make that statement to stamp on the TLM because his handlers (advisors) panicked when he had that operation recently in case he did not survive long enough for them to finish off the Church on his watch. Let us pray for Pope Francis. God help him.

    Keep Watch and Pray.
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  11. themilitantcatholic

    themilitantcatholic Principalities

    It may seem hard to fathom, with all the different liturgies in the Catholic Church, the only one that is despised by the current pope and a number of bishops is the Extraordinary Form. It’s just my opinion but I strongly feel that the pope and these bishops are acting as diabolical agents.

    Also I don’t want to offend anyone about my own personal observation, when I attended a mass a number of years ago where a liturgical dancer performed. It made me feel like I was back in time watching Salome dance for Herod. It also resembled a Masonic ritual. I can see a correlation of why this is accepted along with Pachamama and Hindu prayers during mass and the other is despised.
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  12. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    BUMP -

    A must watch - I learnt so much from the brilliant Robert Moynihan in this video - thanks for posting.
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  13. yes, I was always thinking what is the connection of their liturgical dancing to the Mass, it looks more like for entertainment purposes only...
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  14. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Christ is on His cross in any valid Mass-how can they think of this kind of mockery?
  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Novus Ordo - the 'new order' being a liturgy stuck in the mindset, beliefs and culture of the 1960s - for the most part fossilized at 60 years old trying to be trendy - like a frumpy old grandpa trying to be cool and trying ever harder to be relevant --

    No wonder young people have disappeared -
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  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    As someone who is approaching sixty I am beginning to feel I have been short-changed by the Church given the 'crumbs' off the table so to speak -

    Yes, Christ is present in Novus Ordo but you do have to suffer some terrible liturgical dross before and after the consecration - dull and uninspiring prayers and sermons - How often my eyebrows go up and down during some sermons - hope the priest doesn't notice lol.

    At the same time I try my best to really engage in the liturgy but boy it's hard to keep focused especially now being surrounded by a masked congregation. I expect to see a robbery some of these days by a masked bandit who has sneaked into the church!!

    Not quite as bad as a pachamama liturgy mind you - probably coming to a church near you soon - you have been warned!
  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I went to mass and confession this morning. At the end of it my Pastor, a very holy Canadian priest whom I have a great respect for asked for my prayers. I told him as I always do how very very grateful I am for all that he does and that I never ever fail to pray for him.

    He then said that, in such sad tone , yes but pray that our work may continue. For I second I did not know what he meant. Then it clicked. The end of the Old Mass.

    I just said, 'Father how sad!'

    He answered, 'Yes how sad'.

    We paused.

    I walked out.

    Some things are so sad and deep you can't even talk about them.

  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Padraig, was this over at the Church of the Immaculate Heart of Mary on the Antrim Road?
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes. I notice everyone is standing outside discussing things like an overturned bees nest. But I am not really into that. Standing outside Church saying how awful things are is not really my thing. I go to the Mass for the Mass and to Church to pray.

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