Wars and rumors of wars on the TLM and Summorum Pontificum”?

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by BrianK, May 26, 2021.

  1. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I really believe the Pope has shot himself in the foot.

    He has exposed his true face.

    He is not a pastor of souls but an ideologue.
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  2. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    So much for smelling like the sheep.

    So much for accompaniment.

    So much for pastoral sensitivity.

    None of that in this shockingly vindictive document that was produced because of half truth and spin about traditionalists.

    He has exposed himself as a mean and vindictive old man.

    Sorry, but that is the way that I see it. How can he abandon some of his flock because he holds and ideological position? He doesn't like altar boys with hands joined in prayer in adoration of God. He doesn't like Rosary spiritual bouquets that honours our Lady. He doesn't like Latin Mass that gives honour and praise to the Triune God.

    Yet he has endorsed idolatry and pachamama worship!!

    His time is drawing to a close.

    I pray often for him because I actually feel sorry for him as he is so lost within his own ideological mind. He is trapped in a 1960s theological mind set of Kumbaya!!

    Last edited: Jul 21, 2021
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  3. miker

    miker Powers

    From Today’s Morning office... as this world continues to move into darker places... great advice here from Thomas a Kempis

    From "The Imitation of Christ"
    The kingdom of God is the peace and joy of the Spirit
    Turn to the Lord with your whole heart and leave behind this wretched world. Then your soul shall find rest. For the kingdom of God is the peace and joy of the Holy Spirit. If you prepare within your heart a fitting dwelling place, Christ will come to you and console you.
    His glory and beauty are within you, and he delights in dwelling there. The Lord frequently visits the heart of man. There he shares with man pleasant conversations; welcome consolation, abundant peace and a wonderful intimacy.
    So come, faithful soul. Prepare your heart for your spouse to dwell within you. For he says: If anyone loves me, he will keep my word and we shall come to him and make our dwelling within him.
    Make room for Christ. When you possess Christ you are a rich man, for he is sufficient for you. He himself, shall provide for you and faithfully administer all your cares. You will not have to place your hope in men. Put all your trust in God; let him be both your fear and your love. He will respond on your behalf and will do whatever is in your best interest.
    You have here no lasting city. For wherever you find yourself, you will always be a pilgrim from another city. Until you are united intimately with Christ, you will never find your true rest.
    Let your thoughts be with the Most High and direct your prayers continually to Christ. If you do not know how to contemplate the glory of heaven, take comfort in the passion of Christ, and dwell willingly in his sacred wounds. Endure with Christ, suffer for him, if you wish to reign with him.
    Once you have entered completely into the depths of Jesus, and have a taste of his powerful love, then you will not care about your own convenience or inconvenience. Rather you will rejoice all the more in insults and injuries, for the love of Jesus makes a man scorn his own needs.
  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    To God’s ears
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you, miker. Our kingdom is not of this world. And Our King is Victorious.
  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The author of this excellent article is a priest in the Archdiocese of Washington DC. He was very ill with Covid a year ago but survived. Our Bishop ( I live in the same diocese) is Cardinal Wilton Gregory who is allowing the Masses to remain the same while he studies the document. Then he will decide. Honestly, I don’t like that. Scary. But we will wait for the Lord with courage.
  7. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Mario, I have been attending TLM regularly since the lockdown, and to start with was busy bringing the normal prayer petitions to the foot of the Cross at each holy Mass. But lately your description of attending and simply soaking up the reverence, the liturgy, the formality, the beauty and the worship; all for the honour and glory of Almighty God makes it A holy hour (and a half) of prayer for sure.

    There is something that one can not see, hear, or touch with the human senses at each holy Mass, celebrated in the more traditional format that can not be denied.

    I feel like I have reconnected with something that has been missing from my inner being for ages. Don't know what it is, and pray the Pope does not cancel this newfound hope the TLM brought right in the lockdown over the last eighteen months.
  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Eloquent post, Julia.
  9. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Yep, I was a total nerd. The morning I had to do breakfast club, I walked in and the usual suspects were saying "what are you doing here?". So the reason I got breakfast club was because in Latin class I was caught shooting spitballs at the chalkboard when Mrs. Tucker's back was turned (most of us were bored silly with Latin). And the reason I was taking Latin was because my dad wanted me to learn it so I could assist at the Traditional Mass held at our parish :)
  10. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    It sure looks to me to be a spiritual event and no coincidence. Add the seer from Akita remarks about sack cloth and ashes right before the Covid pandemic….
    The seer from Akita had been silent since the 1970’s and gives us this warning right before the pandemic begins…?
    Now we have George Soros and Bill Gates buying the Covid testing company…..
    Flooding occurring around the world….
    Biblical Signs of the times it seems….
  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Agree….we need to keep our faith and hope alive….yet not be blinded by the truth. The signs are evident.
  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, agreed . Biblical proportions.
  13. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    This soaking up of the beauty and holiness...the silent reverent worship... It is just what I need as I wrangle 2 crazy toddlers throughout Mass. I rest in the trust that Father is praying and offering Christ for me, and I let my presence be a prayer, whether a baby is clinging to my face or I catch a moment to be still and offer God more specific prayers and intentions. It doesn't seem as easy to stay in that reverent state during the Novus Ordo, with its constant noise and movement.
  14. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Once you have entered completely into the depths of Jesus, and have a taste of his powerful love, then you will not care about your own convenience or inconvenience. Rather you will rejoice all the more in insults and injuries, for the love of Jesus makes a man scorn his own needs.”

    This quote above is very comforting….thank you for posting!
  15. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I worry that the bishops are not prohibiting the Latin mass all at one time to advert a mass uprising at once. Rather they will incrementally prohibit it one diocese at a time , little by little to avoid a mass revolt.The slow boiling frog ….
  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I get the impression (in the USA) at least that the Bishops generally, are supportive of the Old Mass... and why would they not? It is the Mass of the Ages.

    Just finished watching this, so sweet.

  17. AED

    AED Powers

  18. AED

    AED Powers

  19. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Sadly, this is just the short list of the signs:(
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  20. TinNM

    TinNM Archangels

    One country I heard will not continue having the Latin Mass. I will see if I see some reference to it in the news.

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