Vatican Overturns Dutch Apparitions

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  1. sparrow

    sparrow The ultimate limit to evil is Divine Mercy

    Bishop Answers Request for Clarification Regarding the Amsterdam Apparitions
    Updated: Sep 18


    In answer to questions from clergy and faithful internationally, Bishop Josef Maria Punt, Bishop Emeritus from the Diocese of Haarlem-Amsterdam, provides a brief history and clarification of the position of the Church regarding the apparitions of the Lady of All Nations. In his letter, the Bishop also explains the 1974 statement by the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith



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    Because of many requests, we asked Bishop emeritus Jozef Punt to give a short summary of the development of the position of the Church regarding the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary, as “The Lady of all Nations” or “The Mother of all Peoples,” (Amsterdam 1945 – 1959):

    The Church and “the Lady of all Nations” have a long common history, on the diocesan level, as well as on the level of the universal Church. It started more than 70 years ago. Like most of my predecessors, I also had known the visionary very well. She was totally reliable and very down to earth. All her visions happened in the presence of others, and were recorded by others. As a bishop, we have a duty to “test the spirits,” to separate the “wheat from the chaff,” but also “hold fast to what is good.” I cannot describe 70 years of history in detail, but shall try to explain the central stages in this development.

    In 1956, the first local Bishop, Johannes Huibers allowed the private veneration of the title, the image and the prayer of the Lady of All Nations, but prohibited public veneration. This was based on the advice of a diocesan commission, that could not yet establish a supernatural origin. Besides that, the apparitions were still going on. In 1957, Rome confirmed the Bishop’s disciplinary measure, adding that it did not rule out new information presenting itself in the future. After his retirement (1960), Bishop Huibers became more and more convinced of the authenticity of the apparitions, as is manifested in letters to his successor and to Rome, as well as in other documented testimonies.

    In 1967, the then Bishop of Haarlem, Theodorus Zwartkruis, on the request of many faithful and in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, decided to re-open the case. A new diocesan commission could not draw a clear conclusion, but tended to attribute a natural origin to the events. Yet, it advised the granting of permission for public devotion. In 1974, the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith did not state that the apparitions are false, but specified that the “non constat de supernaturalitate” position still existed, and in an official publication confirmed the prohibition of the public veneration from 1956 by Bishop Huibers.

    In 1973, an unexpected development happened. The sisters of a convent of Eucharistic Adoration in Akita, Japan, had commissioned a wooden statue after the image of the Lady of all Nations, and daily prayed the prayer of Amsterdam. In July 1973, Sister Agnes Sasagawa heard a beautiful voice coming from the statue of the Lady of all Nations, giving messages. Also, healings, tears and other miraculous events at the statue happened, five times in the presence of the bishop himself. After extensive scientific investigation by the University of Akita, the local Bishop, John Shojiro Ito, on April 22, 1984 approved “the supernatural character of the events.” He made a pilgrimage to Amsterdam, and shortly before his death, he wrote a letter (February 28, 1989) to the Bishop of Haarlem, in which he confirms that he had approved the events regarding the statue of the Lady of all Nations in Akita, as consisting of a supernatural origin. There is also a deep relation of the Lady of all Nations with the Holy Eucharist, both in Akita and in Amsterdam.

    In 1984, Rome modified its position regarding Amsterdam. The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith advises the then local Bishop, Henricus Bomers, to consider making a distinction between the title and the apparitions, expressing that the Congregation was inclined to recognize the title. In the following years, there is ongoing correspondence between the local bishop and the Congregation about the possibility and the reality of such a distinction. On April 6, 1990, the Congregation states in writing that “the Bishop of Haarlem himself should judge the advisability” of this policy.

    In 1995, Rome allows the public veneration. In that year, I was appointed auxiliary Bishop of Haarlem. At my introduction visit to the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, October 1995, the Prefect, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, brought up the issue of the devotion to The Lady of All Nations, and asked my opinion on this topic. I responded that I was in favour of allowing public devotion, without yet giving a judgement on the authenticity, but await further developments. The Prefect gave permission to this policy. On May 31, 1996, Bishop Bomers, together with me as his auxiliary bishop, therefore released a decree in which we allowed the public veneration of “The Lady of all Nations,” and left the question of the authenticity to the conscience of the faithful. The devotion sharply spread.

    In 2002, in my continued responsibility as the new Bishop of Haarlem, I had to take a position on the Amsterdam apparitions. Already for several years, I was confronted with many requests from bishops and faithful to give clarity about the authenticity, and also in the light of the approval of Akita. I asked some theologians and psychologists to again study all the available material. On their positive advice, and in my responsibility as local bishop, I then approved the apparitions as “in essence consisting of a supernatural origin.” In a pastoral letter, I added that the approval does not imply a guarantee on each word or image, because the influence of the human factor always remains. I also recalled that private revelation, even if recognized as authentic, “does not bind the conscience of the faithful.”

    In 2005, Rome required a small change in the prayer. The last sentence of the prayer read as follows: “May the Lady of all Nations, who once was Mary, be our Advocate. Amen.” Of course, the Blessed Virgin retains the name, “Mary.” The name is used throughout all the messages. In fact, Our Lady presents herself with the words: “I am the Lady, Mary, Mother of all Peoples”. What is meant is that this humble young woman, Mary of Nazareth, was chosen and elevated by the Lord to become, as St. John Paul II refers to her under the titles, “the Mother of all Humanity” and “the Mother of all Peoples.” But to avoid misunderstanding, and in obedience, the clause was changed. Now the most current form of the clause reads: “the Blessed Virgin Mary.”

    The devotion has spread all over the world and is presently supported by hundreds of bishops and cardinals. The prayer is translated in almost all languages of the world. The first sentence of the prayer reads: ‘Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send now your Spirit over the earth,” with special emphasis on “now.” Our world needs the Holy Spirit now, more than ever. If we honor Mary in the full greatness the Lord has granted Her, She then can fully execute her maternal power over the heart of her Son, and obtain for us a new descent of the Holy Spirit over our wounded world. That is the essence of this devotion. For this reason, millions of people are praying the Rosary and this prayer. At the Lady of All Nations prayer day in Germany, 2019, we were happy to receive a message of greeting and blessing on behalf of Pope Francis.

    Jozef Marianus Punt
    Bishop Emeritus of Haarlem-Amsterdam
    15 September 2020
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  2. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Mark Miravalle corrects the FAKE NEWS which incorrectly claimed Our Lady of All Nations was condemned. Our Lady of All Nations was NOT condemned. Thank God.

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  3. andree

    andree Archangels

    So five pages into this discussion and several public articles and videos later, we are getting confirmation that the Aleteia article that launched this whole debate has spread misinformation.

    I am reminded of something Catherine Austin Fitts has often said: it is a tactic of the deep state to make us, the minion, waste our time and energy dealing with lies and misinformation. I think that a great deal of so-called Catholic media is just as infiltrated as other media today and that some of the things they publish are meant to divide, create arguments and further weaken the Church by tarnishing certain people or apparitions to weaken them in the minds of the faithful.

    Is it just me or do others sense an increase in intensity of attacks to discredit figures of faith?

    There is a book coming out soon in French that targets the reputation of a well-known French mystic and if it gets a lot of publicity, it will put a doubt on her authenticity in the minds of many. The book is a case of the ole manuscript found in a drawer after the death of the writer and published posthumously. People are already talking about it, putting the claims of the book on the table. This mystic is quoted so often in relation to other apparitions and other mystics and Saints that it feels like an attack on a much broader scale. And Catholics are taking the bait, taking up the public arguments about it.

    In Amsterdam, Our Lady of All Nations asked us to pray for the Spirit to be sent to all nations so that we could all avoid degeneration, disaster and war. The translations of this prayer in French and Spanish uses the word corruption instead of degeneration and this is what I think of when I pray this prayer. Our biggest problem is the corruption within the Church.

    Lord Jesus Christ
    Son of the Father
    Send now your Spirit
    over the earth.
    Let the Holy Spirit live
    In the hearts of all nations,
    That they may be preserved
    From degeneration, disaster and war.
    May the Lady of All Nations,
    Who once was Mary,
    Be Our advocate.
  4. non sum dignus

    non sum dignus Archangels

    For those who dont follow the link, Sr. Agnes of Akita' convent...


    • 24 Sep 2020

      Temporary closure of chapel / gardens

      Due to COVID-19 our chapel and the gardens are closed now.
      Neither pilgrims nor tourists will be able to enter the convent
      until Easter 2021 at the earliest.
      We are very sorry for this inconvenience.
      The next annoucement will be in March 2021.
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  5. Another article. Sad to say but in today's world one has to wonder about the motives behind statements coming out of this particular section of the hierarchy....esp. when the union of all nations seems there to be built upon only a material/secular in NWO! Will the image of Akita be included in the order?

    Vatican reaffirms rejection of so-called apparitions of Our Lady of All Nations

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