Vatican Officially Accuses Vigano Of Schism

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  1. sparrow

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    The Vatican Officially Accuses Vigano Of Schism: Complete Coverage Of Francis' Mistake - Return to Tradition
     
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  3. Pax Prima

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    Matthew 5
    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    Vigano will be a rich man in the Kingdom.
     
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  4. AED

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    :cry:
     
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  5. padraig

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    The reason why they are about to ban the Latin Mass and bring Vigano to trial is that they wish to push people to schism. Vigano may indeed be no angel, I know, but there it is. I suspect they have a lot of other things they are planning to drive people nuts and go into schism.

    These people who have taken over the Vatican at the moment are cold, cold, cold, bone chilling evil. They must not sleep at night with their wicked plotting.

    They will stop at nothing.

    Don't fall for it.

    Stay Faithful to the Church.
     
  6. PurpleFlower

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    I think it would be lovely of Vigano to humbly show up for his trial. I'm praying for him!
     
  7. padraig

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    Yes. That would be good. If he were very clever that's what he would do (I am not sure if he strikes me as particularly humble but still) . He comes from a very,very rich Italian family (they make cars, big time). They could certainly fork out the dough for lawyers. A little like Trump in New York..

    ...and he is very clever.

    I am not a big Vigano fan , just as I am not a big Trump fan, but any, any, any port in a storm.
     
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  8. padraig

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    Vigano's family make Trump look like a pauper.. and it is pretty old wealth now, like the Ford's
    Top, top deck European money.

    Papa Frankie did not make him a Cardinal as he was 99.99999% of times supposed to.

    This explains much.

    Neither Vigano and his family would not, not, not, be naturally humble. They are a bit like modern day Medici's. Or Corleones , of whatever. Not to be snubbed.
     
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  10. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    This is pretty long....worth the time with good advice at the end..

     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    A Must listen.
     
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  12. AED

    AED Powers

    Excellent post.
     
  13. Michael_Pio

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    Thank you for posting this. I have not watched the video - I prefer reading.

    I am only a layman, but here is my take: One can only be in schism against a true Pope. If the occupant of the seat of St. Peter is an imposter, then this occupant is himself in schism with the Holy Catholic Church and her traditions and her Popes throughout the ages. This is exactly what His Excellency Archbishop Vigano has been saying - that 'Pope Francis' is not the Pope but an imposter. This is a question of fact.

    One of the two, 'Pope Francis' or Archbishop Vigano is in schism with the Holy Catholic Church and the traditional teachings of her Popes throughout the ages. Again, this is a question of fact. 'Pope Francis' is either a true Pope or an imposter.

    It would be excellent to bring this question to trial, in an unbiased, just, lawful and fair way, judged by competent canon lawyers of the highest calibre and in position to do so, such as His Eminence Cardinal Burke. Of course, Cardinal Burke, who was the highest canon lawyer of the Holy Catholic Church, has effectively been fired by 'Pope Francis'.

    So what can we say? I guess, we can only pray. Deep in our hearts, we know the answer.

    I intend to stay true the Holy Catholic Church and her traditions as expressed in the faith of our fathers.

    Care must be taken, though. 'Pope Francis' has been saying from the start that he "will go down in history as the one who brought schism into the Catholic Church" (quoting off the cuff). So, we know the plan. It will be difficult to stay the course, very difficult. This is the spiritual chastisement as prophesied in the Third Secret of Fatima.

    The physical part of the chastisement has to do with Kiev and Moscow, according to Fr. Malachi Martin. It is happening. God will intervene directly this time, all the approved prophecies indicate this. So let's pray the Holy Rosary as our Lady asked us to do.

    God bless all here!
     
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  14. padraig

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    If you have time Michael you should really try to watch at least some of the video. Both Father Muirr and Dr Moynihan are both very, very good and holy Catholics and both very, very well informed insiders on what is going in the Church.

    Much of what is going on is being done in secret and so it is difficult for us to know or guess what is going on.

    My own guess is that the Vatican is going all out to press for a Schism. The gloves are off. I would guess Vigano is not the only one who is about to face the chopping block. That there is a long list already prepared.
     
  15. padraig

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    Excommunication is a really, really serious thing. Especially if you are a devout Catholic, in fact I would judge it a thousand times worse than death. It means exclusion from the Sacraments for a start. A total killer. In olden days if you were excommunicated it was more nor less accepted that you were going straight to hell when you died. Horrific.

    Archbishop Vigano does not believe they can excommunicate him because they do not have the power to do so. That Papa Frankie is not Pope (I don't think he is either, but still). I can see the logic. But the thing is he is kinda betting his soul on it so to speak.

    A terrible, terrible situation.

    All this reminds me of the terrific scene were St Thomas Becket did an excommunication (from the film, 'Becket').

    I am very much afraid this is the start of a very long line of excommunications. Bishop Strickland for instance said he supports the Archbishop and it looks like they are lining up poor Cardinal Burke and my guess would be Cardinal Sarah's name is down there at the very top.

    Also Papa Frankie has been scanning social media and commenting on it so maybe they will get round to amputating a the heads of a few lay folk too.

     
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  16. sparrow

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    We can all keep praying.


    Prayer for a Specific Priest

    Lord Jesus you have asked me to pray specifically for the sanctification of your priest Father (Name).

    In obedience to your most holy will, I ask that you pour the Holy Spirit over him and increase all of his gifts. Pour over him wisdom, counsel, knowledge, understanding, fortitude, piety and fear of the Lord. Give him the grace of final perseverance. I ask our Most Blessed Mother to wrap him in her mantle. I ask Saint Michael to protect him from the harm of the evil one.

    Specifically I ask that he be protected from calumny, ridicule, suspicion, false accusation, pestilence and plague. I ask Lord that he be protected from all physical harm and that his physical needs be met so the strength of your kingdom may be revealed in and through him.

    I ask, Lord, that you pour blessings on his labors, guard his chastity and purify his heart to love as you love. Keep him from the temptation of sloth, acedia, gluttony, pride, lust or any of the sins that could distract him from his mission of serving you. In his suffering and sorrow, perfect him and comfort him, and draw him into your Sacred Heart.

    Lord Jesus, may the people who hear his preaching have their ears opened to the truth that they may receive your word in their hearts and minds. May they be opened up to the Gospel of your love and mercy. I ask the Seraphim to surround the altar where he celebrates the Mass with a wall of holy fire so the thrice holy God will be honored by all who proclaim holy, holy, holy. May the power of your presence in the Eucharist he consecrates remove scales from blinded eyes so that they may see the Spiritual reality and may the hearts of those who receive be transformed by the power of your Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.

    May those who receive your absolution from him know to the fullest extent that they are truly reconciled to you and your church, so that they may receive the fullness of your healing, which makes demons flee. I ask all the saints in heaven to pray with me for him that through him God will be glorified and praised, one day counting him among the saints in Heaven.

    Lord through this priest (Name), may the fire of the Holy Spirit pour over all you wish to save. May his example, like that of Saint John Vianney and Saint Padre Pio, be an example for all priests. May those who are under his pastoral care see you in him so that they may strive themselves to be holy and proclaim to the world that God alone is good, abolishing all idols.

    Lord, make him a shepherd to your people.

    I ask this in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
    https://veilofveronica.blog/prayer-for-a-specific-priest/
     
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  17. sparrow

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    HUGE Update On Vigano Excommunication And The Next Traditional Mass Ban
     
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  18. LMF

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    Something I read many years ago from a lady from Bolivia (approved by her Bishop) was to pray for the priest during Mass, at the moment he consumes the Bless Sacrament......it went something along the lines of "bless him and sanctify him, help him and purify him, love him and support him Lord, take care of him in Your Love" She mentioned there was no better time to offer prayer for a priest.....

    It's not too difficult to remember, and imho, a good and charitable habit....

    All our priests need our prayers....one can only imagine what they (the good ones, anyway) are going through
     
  19. Luan Ribeiro

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    laypeople on this forum, for example?
     
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  20. maryrose

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    A must watch video. They have in depth knowledge and are very balanced.
    Our Lady has told Pedro Regis that the great ship is going to split in two. She also says do not retreat. I really don't understand how a totally unjust ban on sacraments can be accepted or implemented. Arch. Leferbe (sp) was treated unfairly and the wrong was recognised after his death. The next target will be the novus ordo . Will we all sit back when that happens.
    Robert Moynihan looks very shaken and he said his health is not good.
    Mutism is a massive problem but we need to get over it and fight back.
     
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