Where to start I enjoy Padraigs forum very much. It makes me happy to discuss spirituality, the church and all other Christian matters. It is the only forum I have found with such interesting and unique points of view. We seem to have lost many interesting brothers and sisters in Christ. Some were very knowledgable others were not but always interesting. I enjoyed debating blue horizon and reading Joes non-traditional responses. And I'm not talking about Joes faith or spirituality. I won't mention all the names but there were some very spiritually gifted members who would read all the nonsense and then might post once...but there were spiritual gems. What's my point? Not sure but maybe like a old traditionalist I like the past more then the moment. If we allow a few with the same arguments to be repeated over and over the forum will gradually loose it spiritual flavor. This was once a place of Catholic thought and spirituality. We were always conservative but it seems like it has gone to an extreme. Just a thought.