(This article was posted elsewhere but was promptly deleted so I thought maybe users of this forum might like it. Hopefully anyway!) What I am wondering is to what extent do people on this forum think that the powers that be in the world are into the Occult? I was just struck by this question when looking at reports of a recent promo for Match of the Day on BBC obviously. For some reason they overlaid the usual clips of footballers etc with images like this which seem blatently Occultic to me: Why would anybody want to do that? How do they get away with it? Match of the Day is incredibly popular and the BBC is a hugely influential television station obviously, do you have to be in a position of some power to orchestrate that? Anyway for political leaders we have this of Obama and Enda Kenny: A picture of the previous President and his wife: And going back a little further here is a video of the funeral of former first lady of the US, Lady Bird Johnson: [video=youtube_share;2aPqV0aPKMI] Here is a picture of the recent nuclear security conference in the Hague: and this is from the Ukrainian currency 500 unit note: I won't bore you with detailing how old and established these symbols are in Occultic and Satanic circles, but they definitely are as you can see in these early 18th century paintings of Irish Hell Fire - i.e. Satanic - clubs: (You can also see there the Satanic 3 sixes being displayed with the fingers.) Of course its all a conspiracy theory and they never happen blah blah blah, to be honest I've heard all that before and I'm sure you have too! Years ago people were trying to prove that NSA et al kept and analysed full recordings of all phone calls made in a target country, not just ones targeted at 'terrorists' or just the data that listed the names of the parties connecting etc, and were dismissed as conspiracy theorists of course (an example would be Brian Nugent, Orwellian Ireland (Co. Meath, 2008), p.66.). Not so long ago one of the silliest conspiracy theories around was that the much loved broadcaster Jimmy Saville was secretly some kind of mysterious character who assisted paedophilia among the elite etc etc, and that was even said about Cyril Smith, again a much loved roly poly Liberal MP. Just the usual conspiracy theory stuff you understand! But the interesting thing is that if you dig a little deeper into the Saville story you will find the kind of Satanic and Occult goings on that I think people should be conscious and wary of: Of course they didn't, they frequently don't in cases like this because obviously they don't believe in silly conspiracy theories! Men in robes and chanting, I mean I ask ye! So what happens in fact is that this issue becomes a kind of self fulfilling non virtuous circle: the police don't waste time on these kind of 'conspiracies' because they haven't heard that this is a serious issue, because it doesn't get aired much in the media, and they aren't highlighted by the media because the police often do not pursue these cases through the courts, hence its the blind leading the blind. But I wonder if people should not take this a bit more seriously and watch out for this kind of stuff, and its obvious symbolism, in future? (When you talk about this anywhere you can attract endless talk about aliens and lizards, which is what happened so to address that I posted this Ok lets approach this logically step by step: 1) Are we saying that Satanists do or don't exist? Obviously there are Satanists, its just a belief system like Scientologists or Buddhists or whatever. Hence if I walk down the street and see an alien, I would say thats remarkable, if I see a walking talking lizard, I would say thats very remarkable, but if I see a Satanist well actually thats no big deal. It follows then that if you are in that zone of looking at this issue in the same light as talking lizards or aliens then you have gone over the top in your sceptism. 2) Ok, following it along logically, are the symbols described recognised Satanic symbols or not? Well if you research the thing at all you will find that they are very much Satanic, have been so for centuries as you can see in the paintings, so you can check that box and a cursory bit of research on the net can confirm it for you if you like. 3) Now the next obvious point is what are these symbols doing in the middle of a promo to Match of the Day etc? Is it some kind of accident, or coincidence? I don't think that makes sense at all? And, to take a simple analogy, if you saw flashed across your screen subliminal images of the Buddha would you consider that maybe some high up guys in the BBC were Buddhists? Then why not Satanists? Actually it does look like a logical explanation if you really think about it.