The New Babylon

Discussion in 'Books, movies, links, websites.' started by Rey Urena, Oct 19, 2016.


As we are in serious times, where is the New Babylon.

  1. USA

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  3. Other

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  1. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Just want to ask what you think then of Pope Paul XI saying 'the smoke of satan has entered the church'
    and Mother Mary's various messages especially at Akita:
    'With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests.'...............
    " the work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.
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  2. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Also this:
    In March 2010, Father Gabriele Amorth, the chief Vatican exorcist, told Italian newspaper La Repubblica: “The devil resides in the Vatican and you can see the consequences. He can remain hidden, or speak in different languages, or even appear to be sympathetic. At times he makes fun of me. But I’m a man who is happy in his work.”

    He added the evil influence of Satan was evident in the highest ranks of the Catholic hierarchy, with “cardinals who do not believe in Jesus and bishops who are linked to the demon.”

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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Byron, Thank you for your insight but I am fixed on my thoughts at the moment, as SGCatholic posted a good example of prophecy which helps me to understand the scripture and Revelation is clear that there will be a beast and a False Prophet, one in particular that we need to be concerned about near the end. Whether or not he is seated in the Vatican, only time will tell but we also have this scripture which seems to point to a city with seven mountains (or hills) which seems to point to Rome :
    Revelation 17:9 And here is the understanding that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sitteth, and they are seven kings:

    You are also referring to the following scripture and I am not certain how it describes America or Rome entirely, it may not be literal:

    Revelation 18
    11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep, and mourn over her: for no man shall buy their merchandise any more.

    12 Merchandise of gold and silver, and precious stones; and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner of vessels of ivory, and all manner of vessels of precious stone, and of brass, and of iron, and of marble,

    13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

    14 And the fruits of the desire of thy soul are departed from thee, and all fat and goodly things are perished from thee, and they shall find them no more at all.

    I think no one knows exactly what is meant until it happens.
  4. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    Glory to God our Father , through our Lord Jesus Christ. I agree It will all be reaveld to his people in the times our father has destined. As the Lord told Daniel , the wicked will become more wicked and have no understanding of what's going on, but does who have wisdom, will understanded all, and we know that all the wisdom comes from Our Lord Jesus Christ.
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  5. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    According to the situation brewing in our Church. I believe our brother John in one of his letters, speakes about the enemy of Christ, the antichrist will be one of us, or was one of us. It could mean that there is a possibility that the antichrist could be someone in heirchy. It also says in Scripture, that this antichrist will sit in God's throne, here in earth. Just putting this out there ,as theory.
  6. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    Trying to keep this on theory, it might make sense maybe a Pope, since the enemy of God will wage war on God's chosen. I think he cannot come in a destructive and totatly opposite from the truth, but slowly deceive many. Our brother Paul warns us about the devil. Paul said " As Satan disguise himself as the angel of light his servents will disguise themselves as people of good" May God rebuke Satan and all his followers in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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  7. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    What a great website. Thank you.
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  8. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels


    I'm certain you must be unaware of this or you wouldn't have referenced that website, but the author of says that Pope Francis is the False Prophet and promotes Maria Divine Mercy (see tabs at the top of the home page and comments below the list of prophecies)... :eek: (n) Just wanted you to be aware. God bless you for all you do... you are in our prayers always.
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  9. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Wow, thanks for the heads up!
  10. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    This reminds me of what Archbishop Fulton Sheen said in 1950: “We are living in the days of the Apocalypse–the last days of our era…. The two great forces of the Mystical Body of Christ and the Mystical Body of Antichrist are beginning to draw up the battle lines for the catastrophic contest.” (Flynn T & L. The Thunder of Justice. Maxkol Communications, Sterling, VA, 1993, p. 20)
    He also said: “The False Prophet will have a religion without a cross. A religion without a world to come. A religion to destroy religions. There will be a counterfeit church. Christ’s Church [the Catholic Church] will be one. And the False Prophet will create the other. The false church will be worldly ecumenical, and global. It will be a loose federation of churches. And religions forming some type of global association. A world parliament of churches. It will be emptied of all divine content and will be the mystical body of the Antichrist. The mystical body on earth today will have its Judas Iscariot and he will be the false prophet. Satan will recruit him from among our bishops.”

    Archbishop Fulton Sheen on Antichrist:

    “The Antichrist will not be so called; otherwise he would have no followers. He will not wear red tights, nor vomit sulphur, nor carry a trident nor wave an arrowed tail as Mephistopheles in Faust. This masquerade has helped the Devil convince men that he does not exist. When no man recognizes, the more power he exercises. God has defined Himsel as "I am Who am," and the Devil as "I am who am not."
    Nowhere in Sacred Scripture do we find warrant for the popular myth of the Devil as a buffoon who is dressed like the first "red." Rather is he described as an angel fallen from heaven, as "the Prince of this world," whose business it is to tell us that there is no other world. His logic is simple: if there is no heaven there is no hell; if there is no hell, then there is no sin; if there is no sin, then there is no judge, and if there is no judgment then evil is good and good is evil. But above all these descriptions, Our Lord tells us that he will be so much like Himself that he would deceive even the elect--and certainly no devil ever seen in picture books could deceive even the elect. How will he come in this new age to win followers to his religion?
    The pre-Communist Russian belief is that he will come disguised as the Great Humanitarian; he will talk peace, prosperity and plenty not as means to lead us to God, but as ends in themselves. . . .
  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Oh sorry about that. I think I will delte this post.:(
  12. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels

    You're most welcome. I just felt I'd be remiss if I didn't share what I found. With so much "diabolical disorientation", as Sister Lucia put it, I want to help my fellow forum members to avoid it wherever they can.
  13. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels

    That's okay, Padraig. I knew you couldn't have known about it. ;)
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    No, sad confused times. I hope God will not judge people too harshly for their mistakes in these times. I hope so.
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  15. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels

    Never fear. He knows what's in our hearts and that's what matters.

    By the way, I'm sure you're already doing this, but please continue to pray for our poor country... I fear we're on the brink of civil war, no matter who wins this nerve wracking election. With only 17 days to go, I get more nervous as each one passes. Makes me want to find a sweet little Irish cottage by the sea where I can hide till it's all over! ;) When I feel my blood pressure going up, I try to remember that Our Lord is really in control, but I'm afraid we are about to get what we deserve for so many years of slaughtering our precious unborn. And I think what we deserve may entail economic collapse, massive natural disasters, and possibly nuclear attacks on our major cities. Please pray. :cry:
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  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think at the moment we tend to hear much more from the evil people who shout and cause trouble rather than from the good people who pray and so do not rant.

    Archbishop FUlton Sheen said a wonderful thing shortly before he died which was so insightful. He said we are very, very blessed to be living in these times of great trial bacuse to will lead us to great sanctity. I thought this was a wonderful way oflooking at things, that this great trial is a great chance.

    But I cannot recall a time when evil has walked so openly. It is as though they don;t even feel the needd to hide their wickedness but to boast of their evil. May God rebke Satan and sent him back to hell where he belongs.

    Praying for America at mass this morning.

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  17. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels

    Thank you, dear Padraig... Celine's beautiful voice and those words have me in tears right now. I pray that the sacrifices of so many who fought and died at our founding to give us our freedom, and those who later preserved it for us, will not end up being in vain.

    Jesus, we trust in You!
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  18. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Thank you Padraig! Just beautiful
  19. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    I might be wrong, but I think there is a lot of more Evil that is not being heard and seen, unfortunately. I plead for mercy to our Lord Jesus Christ for all humanity, Mother Mary pray for us.
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  20. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Everyone from the US, please get out and vote Nov 8, even if you are disgusted with Trump. Whatever you do, get out and vote for the pro-life candidates running for the House and Senate. Also state representatives--so your state legislature does not get the votes to enact laws persecuting people of faith. Hilary is now dedicating some campaign time to boost down ballot liberal Democrats--we have to get out and be sure she does not have a Democratic congress to rubberstamp all her policies.

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