The Future of the United States of America.

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, May 5, 2010.

  1. padraig

    padraig New Member

    You must :) have a very good Bishop, Gail?
  2. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Anyhow I have not much time to post now, before mass and work, I am not sleeping well again.

    I called up to my father in the Hospice last night and he has less than two weeks now. Every time I call he is sleeping with the drugs and I do not like to wake him to the pain so I just sit there praying for him and the other folks who are getting ready to meet their maker with him. The hospice is a really beautiful place , I used to help out there years ago, but they have done a lot of work there and it is like a little palace now. As I sit at my father's bed I look over a little enclosed garden and a wonderful little water fountain and pond. In front of me was a patient who has breathing difficulties and was on a machine. I couldn't help noticing how much he was complaining and what difficulties he was making for the nurses and helpers with his constant demands and how ungrateful and abrupt he seemed to be for what they were doing for him. The volunteers give their time freely and do not get paid. It seems to me when I look at souls sometimes (and I don't mean to be judgemental) it is possible to sense souls that do not have God's peace through prayer so I sat praying for him and once when I looked over at him , he was staring over at me. I think people who have a need for noise and much activity , who are restless are puzzled by folks who sit quiet. Maybe , in his own way he sensed the prayers going up.

    There is something about a hospice that is so bottom line. It is the end page of the ledger of life, the final accounting. What we were and what we did with our lives is what we become. Life is not to be wasted. But...and this is wonderful, with God there is always hope...always hope...always hope and God can change the bottom line account right on up to the last grain of the last second.

    So its good to spend my time praying with these poor dying folks. My father, I think does not need it so much so I am glad to pray a little with others.

  3. Kathleen

    Kathleen New Member

    Thank God for you Padraig. Your image is very sad but it brought a smile knowing the surprise and joy this man will feel after he passes and discovers what you are doing for him through prayer.
    I'll keep you and your father in my prayers.
    Saving souls is a joyious job.

    Pray Pray Pray, as our Holy Mother would say. :)
  4. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I think, Kathleen Hospices are a little like Churches, full of angels and light. the curtain to the other side opens a little there.
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  5. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    Padraig, many times at the last part of someone's life they are able to see beyond the veil, to see those who have gone before them or even their angels. Has your sweet father mentioned that he has visitors?
    My prayers remain with you and your family,

  6. padraig

    padraig New Member

    No Gail. But I have sensed the presence of my mother their.

    I asked one of the sisters there one time if they ever sensed unusual occurences at peoples death beds and she told me they were so common that they did not even talk amongst themselves about them.

    At work yesterday I was talking to a lady, Colette who told me her father had been a very holy man. After he died she felt a warm breeze on her face and felt her father hug her. She told me her brothers and sisters had all felt something similiar. When they mentioned this to her mother {also a holy lady} she smiled and said, 'How can you think your father could go away without saying goodbye'.

    Collette was crying as she told me this.
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  7. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    That was lovely and I'd like to think the same thing, how could they possibly go without saying good by?

    I heard this at a meeting the other night that when a scientist goes looking for something, he usually finds it and that that same principle can be applied to our lives. If we are available to the idea of receiving from the supernatural world of God, it certainly increases our chances compared to a person who's mind and heart is closed to it. If we go looking for God and His goodness...we will find it.
    For years I've seen hearts in the most bizarre places, threads on towels, crushed tins in the street, a rock, a piece of spinach not yet down the garbage disposal, an impression left in the cement. One time I saw a flock of birds take off right in front of my car, rise up and form a heart before my very eyes and every time it was when I needed a confirmation, a kiss from God.
    I need that confirmation, that God-Sighting and I get it frequently and I'm very blessed to notice it. I think it's always there, it's just our tuner may be out of touch.
  8. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    Sorry, I'm kind of flip-flopping the topic back to the future of the US.
    I read this today and was wow-ed by it, at the nail being hit exactly on the head.

    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them.
    This quote was translated into English an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010 .

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."
    "The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool.
    It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
  9. Kathleen

    Kathleen New Member

    Oh please do not think I voted for the man (God Bless him)!

    I love my country, but in this last election we had a mass uprising of very young and very uneducated individuals voting for a figurehead and this vague idea of "change" which honestly is a euphamism for communism.

    But please join me in praying for Barack Obama. I do it daily because he is who we have in office right now making decisions. God can work through any of us. Obama needs our prayers. We can save him and we can save this country.

    My kids are the ones that shamed me for not praying for him. I think they said something like "stop complaining and do something about it!" So everyday we pray for "the President and all the people in power".

    Sorry-this is such as sore spot for me. I had to share my frustration.

    Pray, pray, pray
  10. padraig

    padraig New Member


    Time moved on and the prayers of Blessed Pope John 23rd for an out poring of the Holy Spirit to renew the Church was convened with the opening of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council.


    The intention of the Church Fathers can be summed up very simply, renewal of the Church. Renewal by returning to sources and cleaning of the dust and rubbish that had accumulated down the centuries. to return to the sources of the streams of grace and draw from them anew.

    However the Children of the Mist were now perfectly placed in America to hi jack the wonderful, Spirit guided intentions of the Council Fathers and use it for their own malicious and even evil ends. The Council was, for them rather like a brand new, shiney automobile that has been left in a driveway with the keys in the ignition and the engine running, they simply jumped in the empty vehicle and drove away in it. to all kinds of bad and destructive destinations. They had no interest in Renewal their whole interest was in innovation in driving towards their many and nefarious agendums.


    So many and extraordinary and shocking were these innovations that it is difficult to know were to start to list them all. But they had one thing in common, they defied or misunderstood the original intent of the Council Fathers in going to the past to bring forward something new, they were total innovators ignoring 2.000 years of Church history and the wisdom of ages of spiritual wisdom to drive the automobile of the Catholic Church in the USA to total disaster. But the children of the Mist had risen over the previous decades and were emerging in positions of power everywhere. They could do pretty well as they liked as they were now at the driving wheel, and that is what they did.

    They were rather like mischievous children who were given the run of a beautiful 17th century French Chateau and turned it from this:


    to this:


    Effectively they gutted the cultural and spiritual heart of the Church, the tools their war cry being at all times, 'Vatican 2' a Church Council they neither understood or showed obedience too but simply used for their own purpose. But much more sinister than this was that they actually changed the teachings of the Church itself so that , for instance confession boxes were empty and the children in the schools were taught some new, weird versions of the faith and , effectively whole new generations of Americans would grow up with no conception of what it actually meant to be a Catholic. They often went to Church and had their children baptised but they were no longer, very often, in any serious ways Catholic in any meaningful ways themselves. The soul of the Church in America was being gutted.

    Ordinary Catholics knew this and voted with their feet.


    Stained glass window, pre Vatican 2 , Saint Patrick's Cathedral ,New York.


    Post Vatican 2 modern art


    'After skyrocketing from about 27,000 in 1930 to 58,000 in 1965, the number of priests in the United States dropped to 45,000 in 2002. By 2020, there will be about 31,000 priests--and only 15,000 will be under the age of 70, according to a study conducted by Dr. James R. Lothian of Fordham University.

    The shortage of priests has created a problem previously unknown to modern Catholics: the priestless parish. Only 3 percent of the parishes in the US--a total of 549--were without a priest in 1965. In 2002 there were 2,928 priestless parishes, about 15 percent of all US parishes. By 2020, a quarter of all parishes, 4,656, will have no priest.

    As one would expect, the priest dearth has been fueled by a collapse in the seminarian population. There were 16,300 seminarians in 1930 and 49,000 in 1965. By 2002 the number had plunged to 4,700: a 90 percent decrease. Without any students, countless seminaries across the country have been sold or shuttered. There were 596 seminaries in 1965, and only 200 in 2002.

    And empty seminaries result in declining ordinations. While there were 1,575 ordinations to the priesthood in 1965, in 2002 there were 450, a decrease of 350 percent. Taking into account ordinations, deaths and departures, in 1965 there was a net gain of 725 priests. In 1998, there was a net loss of 810.


    The tragedy of the convents has been perhaps even more startling. A host of 138,000 sisters ran the Catholic education and health systems in 1945; their numbers swelled to 180,000 by 1965. In 2002, there were 75,000 sisters, with an average age of 68. By 2020, the number of sisters will drop to 40,000--and of these, only 21,000 will be age 70 or under. One does not have to be Chicken Little to predict that within a generation there will be no nuns.

    The same is true for the once-proud religious orders of men. For example, in 1965 there were 5,277 Jesuit priests and 3,559 seminarians; in 2000 there were 3,172 priests and 389 seminarians. There were 2,534 OFM Franciscan priests and 2,251 seminarians in 1965; in 2000 there were 1,492 priests and 60 seminarians. There were 2,434 Christian Brothers in 1965 and 912 seminarians; in 2000 there were 959 Brothers and 7 seminarians. It does not require special training in statistics to conclude that by 2050, if these trends continue, the Jesuits, the Franciscans, and the Christian Brothers, will be the virtually extinct in the US.

    Other statistics on the life of the Catholic Church in America tell the same story. At the time of the Council there were 4.5 million students in US parochial schools; now there are 2 million. Before the Council there were less than 400 marriages annulled by Catholic diocesan tribunals in an average year; now there are 50,000. Before the Council 3 out of 4 Catholics attended Mass each week; now the figure is 1 in 4. '
  11. padraig

    padraig New Member


    On 25 July 1968 Pope Paul VI did something incredible and Prophetic in publishing a letter on Human Life, 'Humae Vitae'. People, including many clergy had forgotten the role of the Spiritual Leader, especially the Pope as Vicar of Christ is intensely Prophetic and Humanae Vitae was perhaps the most intensely prophetic document of modern times.

    Like Moses , Pope Paul called Chosen People from the flesh pots of Egypt. He had been to the desert and encountered the Fire of the Holy Spirit in the Desert and brought the fire back to the People of God. This was an intensely counter cultural act in that it called for the people of God to renounce the values and direction of Western Societies at that time. It would cause folks to take risks and turn their backs on the material, on the flesh pots of Israel . It was Prophetic in that it took the Word of God to shout a cry or warning to a people grown deaf to its voice. It was Prophetic in that it risked martrydom to those who followed it and to the Prophet himself. It was Prophetic in that it saw round the bend to the future, a future were the people of the United States would become enslaved to the value systems and beliefs of the Egyptians around them. To a point were they themselves would worship the false Gods of the Egyptians themselves. God, through His Prophet was calling them to make an exit , a turning point a walking away from the Mist, the cold Satanic Mist that had Fallen so hard and fast on their Nation and forge a new path in the Light , the Spiritual Clarity of the Desert.

    Like Moses, the authority of the Pope was challenged by his own people:

    Exodus 2:14
    The man said, "Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the Egyptian?".


    The people contended with the Pope's prophetic role, his spiritual leadership as they had with Moses and set God to the test.

    17:2 So the people contended 7 with Moses, and they said, “Give us water to drink!” 8 Moses said to them, “Why do you contend 9 with me? Why do you test 10 the Lord?”

    For Humanae Vitae we can say with Jesus:

    Mat 19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

    This rejection by the majority of the Church in America was to institute the low point of effects of Satan's War against the Children of God in that Nation. One Protestant commentator, Mary Eberstadt, brilliantly charts the effects of its rejection, for instance on the Anglican Communion and much of what she says can be applied, in a lesser way to our Church:


    ' How did sex, of all subjects, come to occupy such a prominent place in the division of Christendom? In a sense, the potential was always there. From the first believers on up, the stern stuff of the Christian moral code has been cause for commentary—to say nothing of complaint. “Not all men can receive this saying,” the disciples are told when Jesus puts divorce off limits. Observers throughout history, Christian or not, have agreed: that particular moral teaching and its corollaries are hard indeed. From pagan Rome two thousand years ago to secular Western Europe today, the Church’s rules about sex have amounted to saying no, no, and no to things about which non-Christians have gotten to say yes or why not.

    Even so, there is no denying that the traditional rules do seem more problematic now than ever before. Widespread abortion, ubiquitous pornography, diminished social opprobrium, and above all easy and effective contraception: All have divided recreation from procreation as never before in history. They have also been the driving force behind the embrace of Christianity Lite itself. After all, many would say, hasn’t this explosion of sexual expression made what was once a difficult moral code practically an impossible one? Shouldn’t the proper Christian response be one of mercy, rather than censure—including a merciful rewriting of the moral rules in these particularly difficult times?

    Yet to say that the sexual revolution made Christianity Lite inevitable, as many people would, is to miss an important historical point. It was the Anglicans who first started picking apart the tapestry of Christian sexual morality—hundreds of years ago, long before the sexual revolution, and over one particular thread: divorce. In fact, in a fascinating development now visible in retrospect, the Anglican departure over divorce appears as the template for all subsequent exercises in Christianity Lite.

    For about two centuries, and despite its having been midwifed into existence by the divorcing Henry VIII, the Church of England held fast to the same principle of the indissolubility of marriage on which the rest of Christian tradition insisted. According to a history of divorce called Untying The Knot, by Roderick Phillips, “no bishop, archbishop, or incumbent of high Anglican office in the first half of the seventeenth century supported the legalization of divorce.”

    Even so, this early dedication to principle would turn out not to hold, ultimately eroding one priest and one parish at a time. In the United States, Phillips reports, Anglican churches soon were relaxing the strictest restrictions, making divorce more or less easy to come by depending on where one lived. Meanwhile, although the Church of England lagged behind the Episcopalians, by the mid-eighteenth century divorce was theoretically and practically available by an act of Parliament—a recourse that, although not widely exercised, went to show that exceptions to the indissolubility principle could be made.

    Then came another turn of the theological wheel that could not have been foreseen by the first reformers. As of the General Synod in 2002, divorced Anglicans could now remarry in the Church. A spokesman noted carefully at the time: “This does not automatically guarantee the right of divorced people to remarry in Church.” But such cautions were plainly a matter of whistling in the dark. If Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles can now marry in the Church—having already married and been divorced from other people—why should every other Anglican not enjoy the same mercy?

    Thus does the Anglican attempt to lighten up the Christian moral code over the specific issue of divorce exhibit a clear pattern that appears over and over in the history of the experiment of Christianity Lite: First, limited exceptions are made to a rule; next, those exceptions are no longer limited and become the unremarkable norm; finally, that new norm is itself sanctified as theologically acceptable.

    Exactly that pattern emerges in another example of the historical attempt to disentangle a thread of moral teaching out of the whole: the dissent about artificial contraception. Here, too, Anglicans took the historical lead. Throughout most of its history, all of Christianity—even divided Christianity—upheld the teaching that artificial contraception was wrong. Not until the Lambeth Conference of 1930 was that unity shattered by the subsequently famous Resolution 15, in which the Anglicans called for exceptions to the rule in certain difficult, carefully delineated marital (and only marital) circumstances.

    Exactly as had happened with divorce, the Anglican okaying of contraception was born largely of compassion for human frailty and dedicated to the idea that such cases would be mere exceptions to the theological rule. Thus Resolution 15 itself—for all that it was a radical break with two millennia of Christian teaching—abounded with careful language about the limited character of its reform, including “strong condemnation of the use of any methods of conception control from motives of selfishness, luxury, or mere convenience.”

    And also as had happened with divorce, the effort to hold the line at such carefully drawn borders soon proved futile. In short order, not only was birth control theologically approved in certain difficult circumstances but, soon thereafter, it was regarded as the norm. Nor was that all. In a third turn of the reformist wheel that no one attending Lambeth in 1930 could have seen coming, artificial contraception went on to be sanctioned by some prominent members of the Anglican Communion not only as an option but in fact as the better moral choice. By the time of Episcopal Bishop James Pike, only a quarter century or so later, it was possible for a leading Christian to declare (as he did) that parents who should not be having a child were not only permitted to use contraception but were, in fact, under a moral obligation to use the most effective forms of contraception obtainable.

    Bishop Pike was only one of many leaders of Christianity Lite to participate in this same theological process leading from normalization to sanctification. Although the Eastern Orthodox churches sided generally with Rome on the issue of contraception, most Protestant churches ended up following the same script as the Anglicans—moving one by one from reluctant acceptance in special circumstances, to acceptance in most or all circumstances, and finally (in some cases) to complete theological inversion. No less an authority than the Baptist evangelist Billy Graham, for example, eventually embraced birth control to cope with what he called the “terrifying and tragic problem” of overpopulation.

    In just a few decades, in other words—following the same pattern as divorce—contraception in the churches of Christianity Lite went from being an unfortunate option, to an unremarkable option, to the theologically preferable option in some cases. Now consider a third example of the same historical pattern holding in another area: dissent over traditional Christian teachings against homosexuality.

    Although homosexuality may be the most explosive current example of the effort to reshape Christianity into a religion more congenial to modern sexual practice, it is actually new to that party. As many on both sides of the divide have had occasion to remark, homosexual behavior has been proscribed throughout history, by Judaism as well as Christianity, until very, very recently—including in the churches of Christianity Lite. (Henry VIII, to name one prominent example, invoked the alleged homosexuality of the monks as part of his justification for appropriating the monasteries.)

    Yet “extraordinarily enough,” as William Murchison puts it in his book Mortal Follies: Episcopalians and the Crisis of Mainline Christianity (2009), “a question barely at the boundary of general consciousness thirty years ago has assumed central importance to the present life and future of the Episcopal Church.” Why this remarkable transformation? In part, because the reformers at Lambeth and elsewhere did not foresee something else that in retrospect appears obvious: The chain of logic leading from the occasional acceptance of contraception to the open celebration of homosexuality would prove surprisingly sound.

    That is precisely why the change in doctrine over contraception has been used repeatedly by Anglican leaders to justify proposed changes in religious attitudes toward homosexuality. Robert Runcie, for example, former archbishop of Canterbury, explained his own personal decision to ordain practicing homosexuals on exactly those grounds. In a BBC radio interview in 1996, he cited the Lambeth Conference of 1930, observing that “once the Church signalled . . . that sexual activity was for human delight and a blessing even if it was divorced from any idea of procreation . . . once you’ve said that sexual activity is . . . pleasing to God in itself, then what about people who are engaged in same-sex expression and who are incapable of heterosexual expression?”

    Similarly, archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams has also retrospectively connected the dots between approving purposely sterile sex for heterosexuals on the one hand and extending the same theological courtesy to homosexuals on the other. As he observed in a lecture in 1989, three years before he became bishop, “In a church which accepts the legitimacy of contraception, the absolute condemnation of same-sex relations of intimacy must rely either on an abstract fundamentalist deployment of a number of very ambiguous texts or on a problematic and non-scriptural theory about natural complementarity, applied narrowly and crudely to physical differentiation without regard to psychological structures.”

    Thus, in retrospect, does the modern Anglican path—from careful, even reluctant line-drawing over contraception at Lambeth in 1930, to divorced noncelibate homosexual Bishop Gene Robinson today—appear not only unsurprising but practically inevitable. Put differently, the rejection of the ban on birth control was not incidental to the Anglicans’ subsequent implosion over homosexuality. It was what started it.

    Moreover, as of the December 2009 ordination in Los Angeles of the Episcopal Church’s second noncelibate gay bishop, it is clear that homosexuality’s theological status—like that of contraception before it—is now moving from an option to a religiously approved option. It therefore joins divorce and contraception in the signature religious cycle of Christianity Lite, conferring on a once prohibited sexual practice a theological seal of approval'.

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  12. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Brilliant stuff - this thread has hit the nail on the head!

    Almost all of the abominations in the world today can be linked to the acceptance by society of divorce and contraception - Paul VI Humane Vitae was one of the greatest encyclicals ever written and perhaps the most prophetic. Contraception is a subtle but grave evil because it breaks the unitive function of sexual act from the unitive and once this is accepted then all sorts of perversions can be 'justified' in society which then loses the sense of sin.

    The encyclicals of the Church never refer to 'sexual relations' as I have done - they always speak of the 'marital act'. Sex is for marriage - it was designed that way by God. If society was to accept this Godly principle then the world would completely change overnight for the better.

    Tyrone man Patrick McCrystal has written a book entitled "Who's at the Centre of Your Marriage...the Pill or Jesus Christ?" argues that to maximise marital harmony, a married couple must avoid contraception. The principal aim, stated Mr McCrystal, is: " highlight contraception's destructive role in marriage as well as outlining just WHY contraception is wrong. For too long, contraception promotion has gone virtually unchallenged." Patrick stated: "Contraception is the unspoken cause of too much marriage break-up. The battle against contraception is not over so long as one married couple uses contraception." Qualified in pharmacy, Patrick McCrystal could not obtain employment for three years as a result of deciding to no longer dispense the contraceptive pill on conscience grounds due to its abortion-causing nature. The book is published by Human Life International (Ireland) and bears the imprimatur of Bishop Noel Treanor, of Down and Connor diocese.

    I have free copies :D of this book for anyone on the forum who would like a copy - to read yourself or to pass on to someone in the family who might be getting married. If you would like a copy please send me a private message giving me your full name and address and I will post it to you for free!! It is a really good read and helps explain Catholic teaching on contraception in a clear, simple yet profound manner.
  13. darrell

    darrell New Member

    Yes. It has everything to do with our world view as a society. This secular world view is the root of dissenting Catholic thought. I think back to my secular life and realize how much the values of our culture dominated my thinking. When I first came into the Church, before I came to understand and believe in the Authority of the Church, I placed my own thinking influenced by the majority values of secular society above the teaching of the Church. It took the death of our first-born son to knock me to my knees.

    America and all of Western society needs to be knocked to its knees. I think it will take an act of God such as the Warning, Miracle and Chastisement to do it.
  14. padraig

    padraig New Member

    You know I always felt sorry for Paul VI, for I always felt he was a martyr...and you know who stuck the nails in that laid him on a cross? His fellow Bishops and priests... mostly over Humanae Vitae.

    But that's were Prophets always wind up; hanging on a cross.

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  15. darrell

    darrell New Member


    It's just a matter of time.
  16. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    This is a breath of encouragement.
  17. padraig

    padraig New Member


    The Second Spring time.
    Revival and resurgence 1978 to the Present Day.


    Every Nation like every soul, fights her won Battles with her own weapons, each unique to her own Destiny and Vocation in the heart of God. Though some are similiar each is individual for that countries calling.

    The century in which as Satan had been unleashed, at his won request from Hell had seen him return in great fullness of power to vaunt his full fury right across the globe, wars followed wars, concentration camps and mass murders, huge famines and the greatest apostacy form Faith that the world had ever seen. Though much that he did in the terrible bloody 20th century was contrived in secret much that he did was achieved openly by agents, little antiChrists who made no secret of their evil and vile intents:




    Satan , like a brilliant general arranged his armies in battle to suit the corruption soul of the Nation he wished to traduce. In the case of the United States circumstances dictated he push forward the struggle in great secrecy and stealth by hidden means, to corrupt from within. Like a great ravening lion he hid behind bushes luring his prey closer with promises and bribes seeking second Judases amidst those who should have been shepherds and who should have been the very first to raise the sound of alarm and lead the fight to battle.

    As the 20th century drew to close so too did the allotted period for Satan's great temptation and battle wind to its end and the forces of heaven under the leadership of Mary go forth to battle.

    In fact we can trace perhaps the very point were the tide of battle began to change.

    On the 16 October 1978 with the election of Karol Józef Wojtyła as Pope John Paul II fo the second longest Papacy in the entire history of the Church; and the inaugaration of the modern Marian Age of apparitions with the return of Our Blessed Lady, in direct intervention , the Marian Era which Pope Benedict himself spoke of as a , 'Marian Age of apparitions'. Pope John Paul, the Great, himself talking of a 'Second Spring time', for the Church.


    This revival is a mystical reality and its a mistake I think to seek too closely human causes. The fight is fought in the heavens, through its instruments on Earth, as Saint Paul reminds us:

    Eph. 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]."

    ..and in Revelation:

    Revelation 12:7-12

    7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

    10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
    "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
    and the authority of his Christ.
    For the accuser of our brothers,
    who accuses them before our God day and night,
    has been hurled down.
    11They overcame him
    by the blood of the Lamb
    and by the word of their testimony;
    they did not love their lives so much
    as to shrink from death.
    12Therefore rejoice, you heavens
    and you who dwell in them!
    But woe to the earth and the sea,
    because the devil has gone down to you!
    He is filled with fury,
    because he knows that his time is short


    ...and it is because the war of Satan in the USA has been fought in secret that the straws of change, of this New Springtime are perhaps sometimes harder to see than they are, for instance in Eastern Europe and Russia with the downfall of the Red Dragon of Communism, but there they are in there thousands and millions, the green buds of a great Marian Spring and in my next post we shall look a little closer at these buds in our own days as turn to look with great hope and the help of Our Blessed Mother at what the Future holds for the USA.

  18. darrell

    darrell New Member

    USA Today reported that in the first quarter of this year, “Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history” while at the same time, government-provided benefits rose to a record high.

    You don’t have to be an economist to see this is not good.

    Also, Michael Brown wrote this morning, “O, Louisiana -- O, America! -- forsake those who have no conscience and are pillaging what God created!”

    On the other hand, the“great awakening” of the Catholic Church in the link Gail provided is a sign of great hope – a bud of the ‘New Springtime”. I’ve seen much to evidence this in my own work in ministry in my parish. The pews are full. There’s much lukewarmness, but at the same time the Spirit is moving powerfully for those willing to say yes.

    Looking forward to what you have to say tomorrow Padraig. :)
  19. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Hi Darrell,

    Our Lady has been pushing me, in prayer to explain a few things about this thread. So although I am a bit reluctant to do so, I will or she will not let me alone. :lol:

    First of all in the original formation of this forum and in subsequent posts I always pray to see what Our Lady wants me to write, even if it is about stuff I would really not write about, for instance graces I have received in prayer, very often I don't really want to write about, but Our Lady insists that it will be an encouragement to others to pray and a strengthening in faith and so I have done. A great encouragement has been when it seems this has helped others grow or even led them to Faith; this is such a wonderful Sign that the Hand of the Mother of God is in this and so I have continued, happily enough, though often , personally with some reluctance.

    In the case of this particular thread it has been the same pattern. I am not an American of course and have little experience of America and so when in prayer Our Lady put her foot down and wanted me to write I did so like a stubborn old mule as I thought Americans on the forum would think I was being more than a little presumptious and arrogant on writing on this subject, one which they themselves would , naturally know a million times better than I myself.

    More than this as soon as I started to write I was very aware how blank my own thoughts were on this subject and so I have constantly had nothing to say and so have had constantly to kneel at the feet of Mary and so I have in effect being acting as a very reluctant and stubborn secretary, writing down what she herself has wanted and directed to be written.

    But all to the best as I have learnt so much myself and since so little of myself has gone into this all the more of Our Blessed Mother shines forth; which is all any of her children could ever want or ask.

    Anyhow I have done as she asked and will continue to do so. But she just wanted me to point out the hand she is having in all this. I pray and write down as she tells me, she also wanted me to tell you this because we are coming up to stuff about the future, which is the important bit and what I have explained may help folks to be more open and docile too, as this stubborn old mule keeps writing.

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  20. garabandal

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    Padraig., you are receiving many graces for us - as I wrote earlier that this post in particular was 'hitting the nail on the head' of where we are at and now I understand why. It is also clear that Padraig's 'dream' was from the same source and our Lady is gearing us up for the final confrontation and for the future events that we all know are to come. Thanks be to God for the docility of our friend Padraig who is an instrument of our Lady and attentive to the Holy Spirit. I look forward to the next posts.

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