The date of the Miracle is...

Discussion in 'GARABANDAL LIBRARY' started by non sum dignus, Mar 18, 2023.

  1. I numbered the points so others can correct me…

    We “know”:

    1. Conchita knows the day, month, year of the miracle. She said the virgin told her.

    2. The reference to to young martyr of the Eucharist comes from the following excerpt from She Went With Haste to the Mountain:

    “Conchita accepted the joke in good humor and laughed. But suddenly she became quiet and seemed to concentrate; her face lit up; and with her hands joined on her chest, she began to speak: «The Miracle will be on the feastday of a young martyr of the Eucharist, a boy who carried Communion to persecuted Christians. His companions, on seeing him pass by, wanted to force him to stay and take part in their games. Infuriated by his resistance, they ended up hurling stones at him until he was left almost dead. Later a Christian soldier came, who recognized him and carried him in his arms. One of those present exclaimed: Oh, that's St. Tarcisius!» Conchita, without saying a word, as if she hadn't heard, turned back to her pastries. After dinner ended and Conchita had left, those at the table exchanged their impressions. The oldest in the group concluded: It seems that Conchita saw this scene in an ecstasy, but without understanding what martyr it was. I don't think she even knows his name.”

    Certainly none of the saints listed on the old saints calendar in March, April or May fits the above story. Tarcisius does.

    3. Conchita at some point looked up the day of the miracle and told Fr. Luna the saint’s name on the calendar for the miracle day was an unusual “rare name” (evidently not Spanish).

    4. We DO NOT KNOW if the saint’s name listed on the calendar for that date is the same saint that Conchita describes in her “ecstasy”. The possibility remains that St Tarcisius’s feast day could be moved… It could very well be that the two are different saints (one listed for that day in 1960s Roman calendar, and the young boy martyr). Someone, at some point, said (speculated?) that Conchita knows the saint’s name because she looked it up on the calendar. Has Conchita ever said that she knows the name of the saint? And if so, did she expressly say she knows it from looking at the date on the calendar? Or is this speculation? Soooo Tarcisius could have his feast moved or it is another obscure (unrecognized) saint without a feast day, with the same story ?

    5. The Miracle is most likely in April according to Glenn.

    6. So consider this: Conchita is told the exact day, Month and year of the Miracle. She looks the day and month on the old Roman April saint calendar and possibly (from my research of the old calendar) sees the following:

    Saint Casilda
    Blessed James Oldo
    Saint Stanislaus, bishop and martyr
    Saint Teresa of Los Andes
    Saint Martin I, pope and martyr
    Blessed Peter Gonzalez
    Blessed Caesar de Bus
    Saint Bernadette Soubirous

    6. Remember, we only know this is who was listed for the day. We do not know if it is the same saint described in her ecstasy. Which one would make her say it is a “rare” (not Spanish) name?
    Certainly not Peter Gonzalez. Certainly not Theresa of the Andes. Certainly not Caesar. She was also probably familiar with the names Martin and James. Casilda is a Spanish name, but obscure.

    Stanislaus and Bernadette remain. April 11 or 16.

    7…. April 11 or 16th on a Thursday. In an even year. Someone do the math. I don't care what day or year. We must always be ready. And we will all know the miracle is coming because we will have experienced the Warning. I don't share the view that the Miracle "within the same year" is more certain than "within the same 12 months" of the Warning. Translation creates misunderstandings and both statements were made.
    Look at this video with Loli 2:30 in:

    8 Any, and all of this does not matter. All prophesy is conditional and has a certain amount of flexibility. God is in charge. He can cancel the Warning and Miracle completely (especially if we repented beforehand). I just want to point out by this that those who think it is important to know the date are completely wrong. What is important is our conversion! NOW! That is the point of this post.

    Now please correct me.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2023
  2. I will correct myself...
    I found someone had posted an actual picture of a liturgical calendar from Spain (1961)
    The calendar she looked at was 1963 but I believe they would have the same saints between the two years...
    Different saints than I had found in my research are listed.

    Saint Zenon on the 12th is an unusual name, as is Hermenegildo on 13

    Remember...not looking necessarily for a young martyr, just a name that would be unfamiliar as none of them actually fit her description.

    And we don't even know if she had looked at a General Roman calendar, or from what year. Since she could have been looking at a calendar in a missal that was 20, 30 or more years old. Hundreds and hundreds of saints have been removed over the years. Also a Carmelite or Franciscan calendar might have different saints listed etc.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2023
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  3. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

  4. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Supposedly on April, and a day that is not Holy Thursday, or any other important date that is not of Jesus or Mary.
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    According to Glenn Hudson, keeping in mind his friendship with Conchita, he believes it will be in April, rather than March or May. I believe the above can be translated: so it is in April and on a Thursday.
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  6. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    at least here in Brazil the name of São Tarcísio is very common and that of São Hermenegildo is very rare, I don't know how the frequency of these baptismal names is in Spain.
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  7. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    An interesting scenario for 2024. Easter falls on March 31. Divine Mercy Sunday would be April 7. On April 8 is a full eclipse of the sun. On Thursday is the feast day of St.Stanislaus, martyr. (Thurs April 11).
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  8. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    I know things can happen very quickly- the shut down for covid was a prime example of that - but idk I do t see it in 2024 I would see more 2026
  9. Byron

    Byron Powers

    What martyr of the Eucharist’s feast day falls in April of 2026?
  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I agree but -

    Things look like they are about to explode all over the world -
    • Impending banking crisis - worldwide
    • Collapse of the dollar as a reserve currency (hitting stocks, bonds and real estate)
    • Hyperinflation USA as dollars coming flooding back into the system as no longer reserve currency
    • Trump's trial and impeachment and I am fearful of an assassination attempt
    • Russia vs Ukraine potential nuclear war
    • China in Taiwan - potential for invasion
    If all of these kick off at the one time we could be in for the most horrendous time this year - a civil war in the USA, dollar collapse, banking collapse, stock-market collapse, Chinese invasion of Taiwan, nuclear war in Ukraine spilling over to war vs NATO

    A pessimistic outlook leading to 'things being at their worst' in time for warning and miracle next year.

    Things are already at their worst spiritually and we have the synod on synods 2021-2024 with potential schism.

    My mind works overtime sometimes so not the most likely scenario - 2026 is also a real possibilty -

    PS - our America friends on the forum might want to think of converting their paper dollars into gold, silver etc - it really does not look good.
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2023
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  11. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    I have no idea. My thought is just looking at world affairs. I think the US will either be involved in a World War or Civil War and if not that will no longer be no more a power on the world stage by end 2024/ 2025. I also think the US will soon go the way of Venezuela soon again maybe not 2023 but sometime in 2024z I read somewhere on the forum that the German Synod changes take effect 2025.

    But then what do I know. Nothing. I don’t study these things I just listen and hazard guesses.
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  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    neither of the two Eucharistic martyrs celebrated in April will have their day on a Thursday in 2026.
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  13. xsantiagox

    xsantiagox Archangels

    dont forgot all the countries with asymmetric warfare\ guerrilla insurgencies. (boko haram, FARC, naxalites etc) if 2 or 3 countries per continent balkanize or enter civil war, the repercussions are big(n)
    brazil and india have mild risk of this, both are BRIC - china too- the world will fall into chaos this way

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