Something to Think About

Discussion in 'Spirit of Ireland' started by padraig, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. padraig

    padraig New Member

  2. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    We are on the brink.

    2019 could be a year of collapse.
  3. padraig

    padraig New Member

    He certianly gives you a lot to think about. Why do people not know about this?
  4. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    The entire world has been enslaved via World Bank and central bank usury and all of our governments have played the role of the pied piper. Let that sink in. Really think about it and then look at who the people who own these banks are. They are not government entities in spite of all their official sounding names. If you really want a peek look into their citizenship if you can find them. They are online but you have to put in some effort to find them.
  5. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I was trying to work out if I could survive if I had to pay out half my wages every month to service loans. I could not. So how could a country do this? I think most countries in the world are heavily in debt. I suppose you could say they, 'Front', it by pretending it is not happening.

    I hear in Britan they are still paying of debt surviving from the Reign of King Henry the 8th.

    The more I think of it Scripture and historically Catholicism was always right in forbidding taking interest on loans. It tied us to these awful people. I have always owed money. Who has not. But more and more as I get older I grow more and more determined to escape from this and more and more careful to get out from under and live much more simply.

    If the great ecominc storms come it will be those most in debt who will go under quickest. There is an old saying, 'Never a lender or a borrower be'. There is some truth in this. I don;t mind lending money on the basis I would never charge interest or even expect it back; it is pure charity.

    I realsie now very late owing money bonds us and makes us slaves. It is difficult to avoid however. But I do try. I really do. I think having to get mortgages for houses was a big enslavement. It forces both spouses to work for a start.
    Income tax is another curse. There should be no such thing.
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It's all by design of the evildoers to subjugate us and keep us from our God-given inheritance. It's one of those things that we are basically powerless over and we wait for God to act on our behalf.
    I keep in mind that the world was very dark when the Christ Child was born into it, and it is even darker now.
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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Perhaps one of the things that makes these times so evil is that we are deceived by so many false dreams of happiness. If I have money; I will be happy, if I have a good job. I will be happy if I am famous and so. Life is so very passing, none of these things wil make us happy. Only God will make us happy.

    St Augustine new this centuries ago. Are hearts are restless till they rest in him.

    Even if people just live much more simpler, humbler lives that give them time to think and reflect on the things that are really important, like home and family. But they race around...often missing the things they already have and counting their blessings.

    From time to time I count my own blessings and find to my happy astonishment how many they really are.....
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  8. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes! You and Heavenly Hosts speak truth. This is how we try to live.
    " the borrower is the slave of the lender" it says in scripture and that is true for families and nations. we try to stay out of debt. Having said that with all our recent heavy duty expenses we had to break our rule. However we are tightening our belts to get quickly back into the black. Materialism is such a trap but also look at college debt these days. Talk about enslavement! Poor young people.
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  9. I am planning to do a pilgrimage to Marian sanctuaries in 2019 and a few days ago I had a vivid dream. I was at the airport and it was january 6. Then I heard a voice saying, You have one year and a half to do this pilgrimage. After that it will be impossible. I expect this dream is not prophetic, because my family is not prepared to the financial collapse. Maybe it will be impossible just for me for personal reasons, lack of money, health problems or something else...
  10. AED

    AED Powers

    Try pRaying on it. I find if I ask the Lord directly "what does this ean?" He usually shows me.
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  11. SteveD

    SteveD Archangels

    The British building societies originated in the 19th century when workers combined their savings to get out of the hands of grasping landlords. They would save enough to build one home and then hold a ballot to determine which member would move into it. The lucky one was the only one to pay interest until funds permitted the building of a second home etc. The society wound up when all were housed and all homes paid for, they paid less in contributions than rent and eventually owned a valuable asset which permitted their children a chance to escape rent poverty. I believe that the small local 'savings and loan' banks in the US performed a similar kind of financial combination of the 'not so well off'. So, not all mortgages were bad.
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  12. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    On the other hand ---

    Dec 25th 2018 message Medjugorje
    I am with you and am praying for you in this time of grace which God desires to give you.
    My presence is a sign of love here while I am with you to protect you and lead you towards eternity.

    If we are still in a time of grace then things may not go pear-shaped just yet.
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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    That is my hope.
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  14. padraig

    padraig New Member

    You see one of these little Banks in the film, 'It's a Wonderful Life'. A Bank run by George Bailey that transforms his community. I have been a member of my local Credit Union all my life and it has been my saviour.
  15. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I so admire you for doing this. One fo the things I do is to get most of clothes and shoes from Charity shops. I try to avoid going into shops unless I know there is something I really need. But I find buying on Amazon a great temptation.
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  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I know that there re lots of Christian and Catholic , 'Prep' sites that tell us how to prepare. But, honestly, I don't quite know how anyone could prepare fro what is eventually coming.

    If yo go to Scripture and the Early Fathers when the Church was being persecuted I don't see anywhere anyone giving out prep advice really. Though there is the section where Jesus advice's people to, 'Flee to the Mountains', at the time of the Fall of Jerusalem.

    In all the messages of Our Lady in recent times I don;t know of any where Mary gives physical prepping advice. Just purely spiritual advice. Loads of that.

    Maybe that tells us something? Of course too there is ordinary Christian prudence. But on the other hand if you are in a little boat and a Tusanami is coming at you all the prepping in the world will not help. The only thing that would help is prayers to god. We are kind of like that . The coming waves are just to big. Our boats too little.

    I suspect the best way to survive will be to help others. That those who selfishly only try to help themselves will be doomed.

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  17. padraig

    padraig New Member

    It's a bit like life itself. Especially when you get older. So many health issues. Who knows the day or the hour really? There is an old saying that the only thing you get to take to heaven are the things you have given to others.

    There is another description of hell as being like a great feast at which people sit round and can eat all they want. But they are all dying of hunger. The reason is that each person has a long spoon but can only feed each other. But because they are all so selfish no one will feed anyone else. So they all die of hunger.

    I remember one hot summers day picking up a guy in his thirties outside a hospital. As I drove he explained he had just being given a terminal diagnosis and the Doctor had told him very frankly that he would be dead by the end of the summer (he looked in the peak of health too). He was crying softly, tears running down his cheeks. What really bothers him was having to go home and tell his family. I tired to reassure him that he din't have to do right away; that it could wait.

    He got out of the car and walking away, tears running down his cheeks on that wonderful summer day. So sad. Life is so passing.

    We are taught to say at night prayers from childhood, 'If I die before I wake, I pray that God my soul will take'. Do children still pray this? They should. Who knows? I often think before I sleep that this may be my last one.

    People have lost this. The one sure thing in life is death and taxes. We are all going to die. This is no sad thing really. It is just a rebirth. Life is really a night in a bad hotel.


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  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    You know what nations you didn't see this debt enslaved society and centralized banks? Muslim nations. Libya was incredibly wealthy in this regard with the people having very little personal debt under that "mad man". The first thing to enter Libya on the overthrow of Gaddafi? The central bank.
    Cuba, North Korea, and Iran are the only nations left that I am aware of that do not have a central bank tied to the debtor families. I expect that before too long Iran will be the only hold out.
    In 2000 there were 7. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Sudan have all fallen.
    I too live within my means and try not to accumulate unnecessary debt or live lavishly. Mortgages can be a trap for those who watch too much TV and can not live within their means.
    Rarely it seems do children inherit the work ethic and mentality which preserves wealth, stability, and a measure of freedom because instead they are taught to regurgitate the memorization of banal facts.
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  19. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Mohomed forbad the taking of interest on loans. The ironic thing is he drew on Scripture to make this law. So Muslims are doing what Christians should be doing.
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  20. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Did you know of the four sins that cry to God for vengeance two of them have directly to do with money?

    1. Murder of the innocent.

    Genesis 4:10

    Cain Murders Abel
    …9And the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?” “I do not know!” he answered. “Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10“What have you done?” replied the LORD. “The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground. 11Now you are cursed and banished from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand.…


    2. Oppression of the poor.

    Exodus 3:9-11
    9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”

    11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?”


    3. Withholding wage from the workers.

    James 5:4
    4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.


    4. The Sin of Sodom.

    Genesis 18:21
    21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.


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