Russia and Garabandal

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  1. Byron

    Byron Powers

    That was their plan then. But JP II changed history. Communism now is the NWO, the swamp here in D.C., the EU. The most important thing in a communist plan is to destroy Christianity. So far, the plan is working in the West. Russia has continued to build Churches, while the West is closing them. Our culture is dying.
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  2. Continuing within Mark's most comprehensive essay re: Communism's "return"....which seems to point to a moment when it will again be seen as a kind of totalitarian control to subjugate peoples (in order to obtain the means of survival) while now it works through the means of those "powers" behind the scenes in all areas, softening the collective mind to receive its full force; banishing any ideas of the spiritual, depending only upon the material of this world:

    ......That may in fact be a twist on words that Lenin himself wrote:

    The [capitalists] will furnish credits which will serve us for the support of the Communist Party in their countries and, by supplying us materials and technical equipment which we lack, will restore our military industry necessary for our furore attacks against our suppliers. —BNET,

    But the most devastating “disarming” of America is in the disintegration of its moral foundations. Former FBI agent, Cleon Skousen, revealed in detail forty-five Communist goals to this end in his 1958 book, The Naked Communist. I listed several of them in The Fall of Mystery Babylon. It is stunning to read. In the 1950’s, it would have seemed impossible, for example, for goal #28 to be accomplished:

    #28 Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    Or goals #25 and 26:

    #25 Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    #26 Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    But Pope Pius XI had foreseen and warned that it was coming:

    When religion is banished from the school, from education and from public life, when the representatives of Christianity and its sacred rites are held up to ridicule, are we not really fostering the materialism which is the fertile soil of Communism?—Divinis Redemptoris, n. 78

    This, of course, was an extraordinary prediction since, at that time in the 1960’s, Communism looked anything but on the verge of collapse.

    Then, in what are perhaps the most famous locutions of our times, Our Lady spoke about the infiltration of Communism (and Freemasonry) into the priesthood. In one of her first messages, she allegedly said in 1973:

    These priest-sons of mine, who have betrayed the Gospel in order to second the great satanic error of Marxism… It is especially because of them that the chastisement of Communism will soon come and will deprive everyone of all they possess. Times of great tribulation will unfold. Then it will be these poor sons of mine who will begin the great apostasy. Watch and pray, all of you, priests who are faithful to me! —To the Priests Our Lady’s Beloved Sons, n. 8; Imprimatur by Bishop Donald W. Montrose of Stockton (1998) and Archbishop Emeritus Francesco Cuccarese of Pescara-Penne (2007); 18th Edition

    Luz de Maria is one of the few seers still alive who has been given explicit endorsement by her bishop. He granted the Imprimatur on March 19, 2017 to her writings from 2009 onward…

    …coming to the conclusion that they are an exhortation to Humanity so that the latter would return to the Way that leads to Eternal Life, these Messages being an explanation from Heaven in these moments in which man must remain alert and not stray from the Divine Word. —Bishop Juan Abelardo Mata Guevara; from a letter containing the Imprimatur

    Recently, Christ reportedly said to her:

    Communism has not left Humanity, but has disguised itself in order to continue against My People. —April 27, 2018

    Communism has not waned, it resurfaces in the midst of this great confusion on Earth and great spiritual distress. —April 20, 2018

    And in March, Our Lady said:

    Communism is not diminishing but expands and takes power, do not be confused when you are told otherwise. —March 2, 2018

    Indeed, Communism has disguised itself most especially in China. While economically capitalistic, the government’s control over the lives of the Chinese is demonstrated in strict birth control policies, human rights violations, and a growing clamp down on Christianity… while the general population has been weaned on practical atheism.

    In the West, the “new atheism” is also swallowing younger generations. “Democracy” is taking the form of totalitarianism as ideological judges, intolerant educators, politically correct politicians and increasingly autocratic corporations continue to erode freedom of speech. For example, in Canada, any business or entity that does not sign an “attestation” that they agree with abortion and transgender “rights” will not be able to receive grants for summer students.[3] Already, this is beginning to have a crippling effect on several institutions. In America, CitizenGo reports that Amazon will no longer align its charitable arm with “pro-family” groups who don’t agree with the mega-corporation’s “progressive” views. [4] Britain is proposing seven-year jail terms for those who “criticize a religious group in public or on social media” — such as, of course, Islam.[5]

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    (and Mark also mentions the seer "Jennifer" who has been told about the future joining of Russia with China for the same then Russia still in need of the original request for conversion via our prayers for not seen as yet to have reached that end as intended in the great purpose of the Fatima messages re: what would happen If Her requests were not heeded, esp. by the Church)

    Thus the Communist ideal wins over many of the better minded members of the community. These in turn become the apostles of the movement among the younger intelligentsia who are still too immature to recognize the intrinsic errors of the system. —POPE PIUS XI, Divini Redemptoris, n. 15

    Thus, The Instruction on Christian Freedom and Liberation signed off by, then, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, carries a stern warning for us:

    Thus it is that our age has seen the birth of totalitarian systems and forms of tyranny which would not have been possible in the time before the technological leap forward. On the one hand, technical expertise has been applied to acts of genocide. On the other, various minorities try to hold in thrall whole nations by the practice of terrorism.

    Today control can penetrate into the innermost life of individuals, and even the forms of dependence created by the early-warning systems can represent potential threats of oppression… A false liberation from the constraints of society is sought in recourse to drugs which have led many young people from all over the world to the point of self-destruction and brought whole families to sorrow and anguish…. —n. 14;

    When Cardinal Ratzinger became pope, he gave an apocalyptic interpretation to that document:

    The Book of Revelation includes among the great sins of Babylon – the symbol of the world’s great irreligious cities – the fact that it trades with bodies and souls and treats them as commodities (cf. Rev 18:13). In this context, the problem of drugs also rears its head, and with increasing force extends its octopus tentacles around the entire world – an eloquent expression of the tyranny of mammon which perverts mankind. No pleasure is ever enough, and the excess of deceiving intoxication becomes a violence that tears whole regions apart – and all this in the name of a fatal misunderstanding of freedom which actually undermines man’s freedom and ultimately destroys it. —POPE BENEDICT XVI, On the occasion of Christmas Greetings, December 20th, 2010;

    .....(and what is now seen all around us least the intro into the fullness of this coming time of horror):

    When we have cast ourselves upon the world and depend for protection upon it, and have given up our independence and our strength, then [Antichrist] may burst upon us in fury as far as God allows him. Then suddenly the Roman Empire may break up, and Antichrist appear as a persecutor, and the barbarous nations around break in. —Blessed John Henry Newman, Sermon IV: The Persecution of Antichrist

    The world economy will be that of the antichrist, health will be subject to adherence to the antichrist, everyone will be free if they surrender to the antichrist, food will be given to them if they surrender to the antichrist… THIS IS THE FREEDOM TO WHICH THIS GENERATION IS SURRENDERING: SUBJECTION TO THE ANTICHRIST. —Luz de Maria, March 2, 2018
  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Big oops folks. The Catholic writer I spoke of was Caryl Houselander not Hollander. Brain cramp. So sorry. The book btw is Rocking Horse Catholic.
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  6. "A worldwide communist takeover led by Russia will appear to have succeeded and in the midst of this frightful aggression will be a harrowing persecution of the Church. Priests will have to go into hiding, the churches boarded up and it will become very difficult for the faithful to practice their religion. It will seem as though the Church had disappeared. The duration of this persecution is not known but it will take an act of God, the Warning, to stop it."

    Blessed Elana Aiello, stigmatic and mystic...

    “If the people do not recognize in these scourges (of nature) the warnings of Divine Mercy, and do not return to God with truly Christian living, ANOTHER TERRIBLE WAR WILL COME FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. RUSSIA WITH HER SECRET ARMIES WILL BATTLE AMERICA; WILL OVERRUN EUROPE.

    The river Rhine will be overflowing with corpses and blood. Italy, also, will be harassed by a great revolution, and the Pope will suffer terribly.”
    Blessed Elana Aiello, stigmatic and mystic...

    GOOD FRIDAY — 1961

    The Sorrowful Madonna speaks: “People pay no attention to my motherly warnings, and thus the world is falling headlong evermore into an abyss of iniquity. Nations shall be convulsed by terrible disasters, causing destruction and death.

    “Russia, spurred on by Satan, will seek to dominate the whole world and, by bloody revolutions, will propagate her false teachings throughout all the nations, especially in Italy. The Church will be persecuted and the Pope and the priests shall suffer much.”

    Sister Elena Aiello speaks: “Oh, what a horrible vision I see! A great revolution is going on in Rome! They are entering the Vatican. The Pope is all alone; he s praying. They are holding the Pope. They take him by force. They knock him down to the floor. They are tying him. Oh, God! Oh God! They are kicking him. What a horrible scene! How dreadful!”
    Many who follow another apparition site believe the Blessed Mother said that Russia will come to glorify God the most. This statement can be completely consistent with a new persecution by Russia. The glory of God would be shown forth if Russia persecuted the Church, and then was suddenly converted by the Warning. Rather like the way St Paul glorified God.
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  7. Byron

    Byron Powers

    From your lips to God’s ears.
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    nsd, I think that many here agree that we are already in the midst of a worldwide communist takeover but Russia has only led this takeover indirectly because of the nearly worldwide adoption of Marxist values and/or the infiltration of various institutions by communists. I'll be the first one to admit that figuring out if we are truly close to the Warning is extremely difficult but it does seem very possible.

    This link is very good also and from this link we have the following:

    According to Garabandal, communism will again be a force to be reckoned with in one final attempt at world domination. On September 29, 1978, Father Francis Benac, S.J., interviewed Mari Loli at her home in Massachusetts. Here are some of the questions and answers pertinent to our subject.

    Fr. Benac: Did the Blessed Virgin speak of communism?
    Mari Loli: Our Lady spoke several times about communism. I don’t remember how many times, but she said that a time would come when it would seem that communism had mastered or engulfed the whole world. I think it was then that she told us that priests would have difficulty saying Mass, and talking about God and divine things.

    Fr. Benac: Did Our Lady ever speak of people being put to death?
    Mari Loli: What Our Lady said was that priests would have to go into hiding but I didn’t see whether they were being killed or not. She didn’t exactly say they would be killed, but I’m sure they would be martyred.

    Fr. Benac: Your mother told me that one night you were upstairs with your father and that you cried and cried for one hour. Afterwards your father said to her: I have just seen the most touching sight. Loli was crying the whole time while saying, ‘Oh, it’s going to be like that? People are going to suffer like that? Oh, make me suffer!’ “ Do you remember what you said at the time?
    Mari Loli: It was all related to communism and what is going to happen in the Church and to the people because all these things are to have repercussions amongst the people. When the Church suffers confusion, the people are going to suffer too. Some priests who are communists will create such confusion that people will not know right from wrong.

    This last statement of Mari Loli’s should make us wonder if the blame for all that is wrong in the Church today has always been properly placed. It seems very little consideration has been given to the possibility that an evil force has deliberately infiltrated the Church with the intention of trying to destroy it.

    The other day I was speaking with Harry Daley, author of Miracle at Garabandal. Harry was a good friend of the late Father Walter Ciszek, S.J., who spent 15 years in Soviet prisons and Siberian labour camps, and lived to tell about it in his book With God in Russia (Ignatius Press). Harry visited Fr. Ciszek (a believer in Garabandal by the way) often, and on one of his visits, Father went to great lengths explaining how the communists tried to recruit him, promising him all kinds of benefits, if he would work as their agent in the Church and join the network that was already in place.
    Harry Daley has since passed away on April 4, 2017, may he RIP.+

    I have been thinking that Russia's invasion of Ukraine appears to be the reason that Pope Francis will go to Moscow since Russia invited him to meet with Kirill in Cuba soon after the annexation of Crimea (this is not my idea but I read it in an article and seems to make sense.). Then I began wondering if Pope Francis' trip to Moscow may actually be the reason why "successive violent persecutions would break out here and there in Europe" as Albrecht Weber stated in his book about Garabandal. This is just a theory, not one that I am very fond of.

    Thank you for these posts nsd.+

    (And if former member earthtoangels is reading this, I hope that you are doing well - miss you.)
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  11. HeavenlyHosts

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  12. AED

    AED Powers

  13. andree

    andree Powers

    Please let's not listen to the press too much on this, that would be a distraction for us, to steer us away from prayer and sacrifice for our Pope. We know there are wolves around him, he needs our prayers to stay obedient to Our Lady's voice. I can hear the voices whispering in his ear "why only Russia? What about everyone else? THink of your dear poor in Venezuela that you love so much, who are suffering. There is war everywhere, Our Lady is not just for Russia, but for the world." They'll circle him and make him think the consecration can be even bigger & better.

    I think it was PF who suggested we send our angels to him. Let's do that and more so that he does not balk in the face of suggestions that seem good but will move him away from obedience to Our Blessed Mother. Pray that he can tell the wolves "Get behind me Satan!"
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes. Continue praying.
    We can't give up! We don't know the mind of God.
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  16. Serena

    Serena Principalities

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  18. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I'm thinking the chance of a papal visit to Moscow has diminished after Francis called the Russian invasion a senseless massacre this Sunday, which indirectly seems like a response to Patriarch Cyril I's recent comments justifying the military operation .
  19. Serena

    Serena Principalities

    I don't know what he wants, but zelensky wants him to mediate and I am just speculating that this could be a possible scenario that allows Pope Francis to visit Russia.
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  20. Serena

    Serena Principalities

    True, the chances may have diminished, but it's not impossible.
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