I find it odd that God would give Protestants instruction on the coming chastisements, but not on the central doctrine of the faith, which is His body and blood (the Holy Eucharist). I know Padraig, even said he looks at Billy Graham as a living saint, but I can not understand how a person could be a living saint and at the same time reject the heart, soul and summit of the Christian faith, which is the Eucharist. Especially someone who has preached the bible his whole life and yet can not accept the most essential doctrine of the faith, next to the Holy Trinity, which is His literal body, blood soul and divinity.
Mark 9:38 38John said to Him, "Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us." 39But Jesus said, "Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. I read a startling survey recently. One seventh of those interviewed said that they believed the World would end very shortly. I think there is a whole tidal wave of prophecy indicating this Not only within the Catholic Church but in other religions too. I don't have a problem about this. That the Holy Spirit should speak to all souls everywhere; my problem would lie in Discernment. When prophecy arises in the One True Church it is difficult enough , often. But when it comes outside I find myself up to my neck and taking in water in no time. At least in Protestant prophesy we have the test of Scripture. But I think when someone like, say Billy Graham or the late David Wilkerson speaks (spoke) I am inclined to sit up and take notice. But also sometimes from other directions. For instance I came across an old Native American (Hopi) prophesy about a , 'Blue Comet' which fits in so well with the prophesies of Garabandal I had to sit up and take notice. 'You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. After the last Signs the great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands, with those who possessed the first light of wisdom (Asia). There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon, very soon afterward, Pahana will return (Christ). He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.' http://comet2012.com/hopi-indians-blue-star/
I have been reading the Protestant messages for awhile and noticing Jesus is speaking more and more every day about the Real Presence. Sometimes almost directly but most often in a veiled way they. I write the Protestant messengers when I notice this and other Catholic prophecy in their messages. Usually it is silence in return. Lately, two have been very kind to write me back. One of them, I shzasre
Fatima, Checking Protestant private revelation, I notice Our Lord is speaking more and more about the Real Presence. Almost direct about the Eucharist in a few messages but most often in a veiled way. When I notice Catholic prophecy in the Protestant messages I write the prophets. Usually, it is silence in return. Recently, how nice, two have written back. I asked one of them "why is there no discussion between Catholics and Protestants about prophecy and the end times? The messages are saying the same, there is one end time, still, there is no discussion." He replied no one likes to be told they are wrong. A big reason... Our Lord is pointing the way, gently saying it, getting them ready. Here is example. Priscilla Van Sutphin is Protestant, she hears a lot of Catholic related prophecy. October 28, 2013 ...Do you really want ME? Do you really want to spend time with me, like I want to with you? Can you relax in My presence? Can you lay everything you are concerned about at My feet, and allow me to instill peace, and understanding for these times? I am so longing for fellowship. I warned you to take communion, all the more, when you see the signs of the times. So come take communion with ME...
The real presence in the Eucharist isn't the same as communion. From the non-catholic perspective communion is just bread shared, which would explain the expression above "take communion with me". We can be in communion with other people and should strive for this but would Jesus say take communion with me? Today's gospel really ties into this discussion: They will say to you "Look there!" or, "Look here!" Make no move; do not set off in pursuit... I think we can learn a lot from the way some protestant ministers put forward the gospel but i think we're on slippery ice if we start downplaying the Eucharist.
Am I mean and small minded for thinking this 'message' is a load of garbage because it says our Lord is painting in us his tapestry? Surely there are too many mixed metaphors in it? If it makes no sense can it be from the one who only speaks the truth?[/quote] Bartimaeus, hello, Our Lord is speaking to Protestants here not Catholics. Every line of the above is reference to the Eucharist. If Jesus spoke specifically about the Eucharist, this would show Protestants have been wrong. The message points them to the future (prophecy). Do you think Protestants are going to accept the Real Presence before He shows them mystically? Our brothers and sisters do not accept the faith completely, each one coming up with their own version, this is what Jesus is saying in the last line.
When I read "I warned you to take communion" I thought of John 6:54 Protestants have been objecting from their start, right now, they're staying with their meaning of communion. Our prayers for conversion will help at the Warning, not all Protestants will accept Real Presence even then. Here is a link to Priscilla's message entitled No Remorse. Scroll down, the date should be October 29, sorry. http://the-christians-forum.com/topic/5285131/1/ John 6:54 Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
Bartimaeus, hello, Our Lord is speaking to Protestants here not Catholics. Every line of the above is reference to the Eucharist. If Jesus spoke specifically about the Eucharist, this would show Protestants have been wrong. The message points them to the future (prophecy). Do you think Protestants are going to accept the Real Presence before He shows them mystically? Our brothers and sisters do not accept the faith completely, each one coming up with their own version, this is what Jesus is saying in the last line.[/quote] Hi Jackie, Maybe I'm a completely pedantic stickler but in the last line Jesus allegedly says he will paint in us a tapestry. Tapestry is detailed needlework. Painting and tapestry don't really go together. I've spent innumerable hours poring over alleged messages and i always think there is a very similar 'voice' in messages i consider authentic. I could write this off as personal prejudice, and it may stop me from considering messages with a different 'voice' that are equally likely to be genuine. But if the metaphors make no sense to me then i definitely tune out! And painting tapestries did it this time. As Padraig said discernment is critical for all messages, and i have no particular gift in this department! May the Holy Spirit give us ears to hear and eyes to see.
I cannot help but be reminded of Sr. Magdalena of the Cross, a false mystic. Because of her success in fooling nearly all of Spain, the great mystic, St Theresa of Avila would be treated with great suspicion and hostility. http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2011/12/sister-magdalena-of-cross-nun-who-made.html If the Protestants are going to be unified with the Catholic Church by means of the Warning and Miracle, I would expect to see counterfeit mystics in the Protestant community beforehand speaking of the upcoming events in order to claim these are events are meant by God to lead people into "their" church. Obedience is the hallmark of all true mystics. One of the Protestant "prophets" mentioned in this thread Yolanda Ballard tells of how she was able to lead a Roman Catholic away from the Church... http://www.identitynetwork.net/Arti...leid=44478&fldKeywords=&fldAuthor=&fldTopic=0
Thanks for your kind reply Bartimaeus. One of the things that is special about the discussion here. I am probably wrong, I am wrong a lot. But, but... Look at the other part of the lines, Jesus says "EAT ME", sounds like the Eucharist. I get enthused when I read the Catholic faith in the Protestant messages. Read some of them, you can't help but notice. In the last couple of sentences in a message to PROTESTANT Yolanda Ballard. Protestant communion is "bread." November 8th, 2013 http://ft111.com/ballard.htm "But what would you give in exchange for your soul? Would it be a piece of bread or would you choose Me, the Bread of Life?"
non sum dignus, Truly, I just now read your comment AFTER I posted the 11/8 words to Yolanda Ballard. Jesus works with what He has to work with, fallen away Catholics turned Protestant and Protestants who have been taught to be anti-Catholic. I found MOG because of this thread specifically after reading the OP's message about the Great Warning. She use to be Catholic, sharing with me after I wrote a note to her about her messages. She was kind but did NOT want to discuss the Eucharist as I've shared. She said it. She thinks God has her where He wants her. Maybe so...more former Catholics than Julie Whedbee, a messenger who was baptized Catholic are hearing Catholic things, more and more about the most Holy Eucharist. There are other fallen away Catholics too who are Protestant messengers now. They will help a lot of Protestants, MO, at the time of the Warning. Reading the Protestant messages, all of them point to the faith. I will admit, certain phrases that Protestants like are used. An example, "the Bride of Christ" is spoken often repeatedly and personally drives me nuts.
Don't you think Our Lord would prepare Protestants? Amanda Leonard, a non-Catholic Christian prophet said she was led to post this old prophecy again. She posted it again last Sunday, November 17, 2013. Here's the excerpt: 12-4-2011 The Garden of More than Enough ..."He (Our Lord) took my hand and we began to walk. We walked to this garden that I had the dream of where the fruit was enormous and I heard Him say, “Yes I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.” John 15:5 Then He took me to a huge table and I sat beside of Him and ate. He said, “There will always be enough.” For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in Him.57 I live because of the living Father who sent me; in the same way, anyone who feeds on me will live because of me.” John 6:55-57"... http://www.timeinhispresence.wordpress.com/
I saved a 2012 Protestant message, the last words MO, help confirm Padre Pio's words. He was asked to prayer for the salvation of JFK after the assassination. St. Padre Pio said, there is no need, he (JFK) is already in Paradise. Notice the mention of the month of December? - - - It is the second poem-message at the link. http://www.openheaven.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=42112&KW=blue+helmets message to brother Marcus Here is a word the Lord gave me on 08/10/2012: “For all that of old that you have heard Shall NOW come upon the earth as a swift bird; Darkness shall come as you approach the end of the year For nations shall be covered with fear. The seals are breaking fast And the cup of iniquity overflows at last For My warnings to America have fallen on deaf ears And now men shall choke on their own tears. Because they have rejected My life Soon they shall eat of the fruits of their own strife. The streets shall become graves in the night But you must prepare to hold your place without fright. By November hidden deceptions will become clear as water And chaos shall begin the slaughter. From the skies shall come a sign With My Kingdom will it’s time to align. Pillage and plunder shall come to the cities and towns And the enemy shall try to take away your crowns. The East and West shall see My hand, And who shall escape the mystery in the middle of the land? They have mocked My Word and My Name; Did they think My judgments are a game? Stand up My prophets and cry aloud in boldness; For I now judge America’s coldness. The blood of the innocent cries aloud before My throne But now in great power comes the little stone. For My hand shall come swift against your sin I gave you time to enter in. But in your filth you chose your course Now see the Revelation horse. The angels of correction now ride fast and hard America, you have played your final card. Did I not call you out oh land of the Eagle? I called you to be holy, royal and regal! But you forsook Me for idols and pleasure above all; Now I will bring you down to barely crawl. Let tears come to the eyes of My watchmen For the time of reaping of your national sin. For the FULNESS of evil shall now play out As your heart oh America is ever so stout. I have sent My prophets to warn But your heart was only one of scorn. From Hollywood to the White House shall you now see All of Satan’s plans he has for thee. Did I not call you to come out of her and repent? But you still reject the watchmen and prophets I have sent. Because you chose to eat of the pleasures of sin You shall now find My judgments on your food supply within. You have opened your borders to the foreign order Now you shall see the enemy surround every border. The terrorists shall soon arise from their posts And you shall see the dirty bombs and terrors from the sky come to your coasts. The man in your capital house shall now show his true face As you see him greet those of a fallen AND foreign race. Many saints shall soon be hunted as prey; But in My secret place they now must stay. What must we do cries those of a hearing ear I will show My elect My supernatural protection the end of this year. For at the end of the year and in 2013 you will see the weakness of your nation But I warn you not to give place to deception and frustration. Perilous times you will go through Never can it be the same for the red, white and blue. Oh major cities of every nation You are about to see the worst destruction since creation. The controllers shall soon openly show their arrogant plan Upon the screens and radios they shall taunt every man. Creatures “of the night” shall be among you commonly in the day But I will give My elect the power to make them their prey. People will begin to disappear in the night season Oh your government knows well the reason. I will make the month of December A time for the whole world to remember. The feathers of the Great Eagle shall be stripped this Fall And Lady Liberty shall never again stand tall. Baby George and others before him paved the way Now Obama shall see his day. JFK was the last true man for a truly white house bold and free All those that followed did not have a TRUE heart for Me…
Our Lord also said, "if you do not eat my body and drink my blood you will have no life in you". How does a Protestant have life in them when they do not have the Eucharist, the body and blood of Jesus? I am not condemning them, I am trying to understand how they can have life, when Jesus said they can not if they reject the Eucharist. Quoting scripture or the 6th chapter of John's gospel is not the same as literally feeding on his flesh and blood.
It is a well known fact that JFK and Marilyn Monroe were a hot item. I find it hard to believe that he was such a saint in his time, when living in a life of adultery. The Kennedy's lived and still do live a life of this worlds pleasures....money, power, fame, etc.... I am not sure I would canonize them as this person has done.
Fatima, hi, I remember reading in private revelation Our Lord calling Protestants baby Christians, I think it stems from their disbelief in the Eucharist. I post some of these messages to Protestants to show they point to the Catholic messages, revelation about the end times. Don't you think God would try to prepare them, especially with all their objections? He is getting more specific these days with messages about the Real Presence.
I have many relatives and friends who are protestant. I have never understood how they can reject or misunderstand when Jesus foretold the Eucharist in John's 6th chapter. That being said, I sure hope Jesus is preparing them to accept the 'bread of life'. I pray every day for the unification of all Christians. Seems they have 3 huge hurdles to jump over, the Eucharist, Mary and the Pope.
I think the Lord is so gentle and kind that he is leading them to acceptance of the Eucharist, which will be very hard after a lifetime of false teaching. I've always been amazed and impressed with protestants who live a holy life without the sacraments, especially the Eucharist. It seems to me that those who love them with their whole heart would merit spiritual communion. Maybe this is how they do it, at least for now. I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting and hoping for their prophets to lead them to the truth.
Fatima, JFK was worried about going to Dallas. And Padre Pio's words unless they were made up and not true. The power of Confession and the purgation of physical suffering almost all of JFK's life. http://www.spiritdaily.org/kennedy1.htm