Prophesy - GSWYL

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  1. PoP: Did that retarded little dance around a plant really have all that power?

    You must have conveniently missed the "rest of the story"....that part actually specifically mentioned in the message. Events are forcing things now. Can no longer sit on the fence.
  2. "If mankind refuses to repent, I the Lord God, will cleanse the earth of evil, renew my creation, and the era of peace will descend upon mankind and the earth. This will mean the end of this present age. This will bring a partial fulfillment of my son Jesus’s prayer, “thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” and the Virgin Mary’s prophecy of a period of peace for mankind. The final fulfillment of the divine will, occurs at the end of human history: the institution of the eternal eighth day of creation and eternal peace."

    Once they have said that the Our Father's prayer would be fulfilled. Now after some critics people have done about this sect, they corrected the story to a partial fulfillment of the Our Father's prayer. This is very significant to show the origin of it all. I believe that these locutions do not go through the scrutiny of the Church. They will only have to be a sect material.
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    What is all of Scripture but a cloth woven of Revelations?

    Moses for instance going up Sinai. What are the Ten Commandments but Revelations directly from God. Who knows how many Revelations given to different people of the coming of the Christ.

    ..and look how much of our Modern Catholic life is formed by Revelations.

    Devotion to the Sacred Heart....revelations to St Margaret Mary.

    Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary..the seerers at Fatima.

    The Immaculate Conception.....St Bernadette, St Catherine Laboure

    Divine Mercy...St Faustina.

    The list is endless.

    “Throughout the ages, there have been so-called ‘private’ revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium [collective sense of the faithful] knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church. Christian faith cannot accept ‘revelations’ that claim to surpass or correct the revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such ‘revelations’” (Catechism of the Catholic Church 67).

    Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophetic utterances. Test everything; retain what is good” (1 Thess. 5:19–21).

    'The Reformers’ eradication of all new revelation led people to forget the distinction between public and private revelation. Thus, when people appeared claiming to have new revelation, Protestants were left vulnerable to thinking any new revelations would be binding on all Christians. In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, religious organizations which claim such new revelations have evolved in Protestant circles; for example, the the Mormons, the Seventh-day Adventists, and the current “Word Faith” or “Prosperity Gospel” movement.'
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    “The vision which I saw, my brethren, was of the following nature . . . [An] old woman approached, accompanied by six young men . . . [And] she said to me . . . ‘Lo! do you not see opposite to you a great tower, built upon the waters, of splendid square stones?’ For the tower was built square by the six young men who had come with her. But myriads of men were carrying stones to it, some dragging them from the depths, others removing them from the land, and they handed them to these six young men. . . . [And the woman said:] ‘The tower which you see building is myself, the Church . . . the tower is built upon the waters . . . because your life has been and will be “saved through water” [1 Pet. 3:20–21] . . . the six young men . . . are the holy angels of God . . . the other persons who are engaged in carrying the stones . . . also are holy angels of the Lord . . . [And] when the tower is finished and built, then comes the end’” (The Shepherd 1:3:1–8 [A.D. 80]).

    The Martyrdom of Polycarp
    “While he [Polycarp] was thus at his prayers, three days before his arrest, he had a vision in which he saw flames reducing his pillow to ashes; whereupon he turned to his companions and said, ‘I must be going to be burnt alive.’ . . . [After his arrest, the crowd called] loud demands for the Asiarch Philip to let loose a lion at Polycarp. However, he told them that the rules would not allow him to do so, since he had already declared the beast-fighting closed; whereupon they decided to set up a unanimous outcry that he should have Polycarp burnt alive” (Martyrdom of Polycarp 5, 12 [A.D. 155]).

    “Polycarp was . . . bishop of the Catholic Church at Smyrna, and a teacher in our own day who combined both apostle and prophet in his own person. For indeed, every word that ever fell from his lips either has had or will have its fulfillment” (ibid., 16).

    Justin Martyr
    “For the prophetical gifts remain with us [Christians], even to the present time. And hence you [Jews] ought to understand that [the gifts] formerly among your nation have been transferred to us” (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 82 [A.D. 155]).

    “In like manner we do also hear many brethren in the Church who possess prophetic gifts and who through the Spirit speak all kinds of languages and who bring to light for the general benefit the hidden things of men, and declare the mysteries of God” (Against Heresies 5:6:1 [A.D. 189]).

    Constantine the Great
    “And while he [the Emperor Constantine] was praying with fervent entreaty, a most marvelous sign appeared to him from heaven, the account of which it might have been hard to believe had it been related by any other person. But since the victorious emperor himself long afterwards declared it to the writer of this history [Eusebius], when he was honored with his acquaintance and society, and confirmed his statement by an oath, who could hesitate to accredit the relation, especially since the testimony of after-time has established its truth? He said that about noon, when the day was already beginning to decline, he saw with his own eyes a trophy of a cross of light in the heavens, above the sun, and bearing the inscription, ‘Conquer By This.’ At this sight he was struck with amazement, and his whole army also, which followed him on this expedition, and witnessed the miracle. He said [to me], moreover, that he doubted within himself what the import of this apparition could be. And while he continued to ponder and reason on its meaning, night suddenly came on; then in his sleep the Christ of God appeared to him with the same sign which he had seen in the heavens, and commanded him to make a likeness of that sign which he had seen in the heavens, and to use it as a safeguard in all engagements with his enemies. . . . eing struck with amazement at the extraordinary vision, and resolving to worship no other God save him who had appeared to him, he sent for those who were acquainted with the mysteries of [God’s] doctrines and inquired who that God was and what was intended by the sign of the vision he had seen” (Eusebius, Life of Constantine 1:28–32 [A.D. 337]).

    “For even now miracles are wrought in the name of Christ, whether by his sacraments or by the prayers or relics of his saints . . . The miracle which was wrought at Milan when I was there . . . [and when people] had gathered to the bodies of the martyrs Protasius and Gervasius, which had long lain concealed and unknown but were now made known to the bishop Ambrose in a dream and discovered by him” (City of God 22:8 [A.D. 419]).

    “A certain man by [the] name Curma [was in a coma] . . . Yet he was seeing many things as in a dream; when at last after a great many days he woke up, he told that he had seen. . . . [He also saw] Hippo, where he was seemingly baptized by me . . . After much that he saw, he narrated how he had, moreover, been led into paradise and how it was there said to him, when he was dismissed to return to his own family, ‘Go, be baptized if you want to be in this place of the blessed.’ Thereupon being admonished to be baptized by me, he said it was done already. He who was talking with him replied, ‘Go, be truly baptized, for you only saw that in a vision.’ After this he recovered, went his way to Hippo. . . . He was baptized [and] at the close of the holy days [of Easter] returned to his own place . . . Why should we not believe these to be angelic operations through the dispensation of the providence of God?” (The Care to be Had for the Dead 15 [A.D. 421]).

    “Gregory of Nazianz presided over those who maintain the consubstantiality of the Holy Trinity, and assembled them together in a little dwelling, which had been altered into the form of a house of prayer, by those who held the same opinions and had a like form of worship. It subsequently became one of the most conspicuous in the city, and is so now, not only for the beauty and number of its structures, but also for the advantages accruing to it from the visible manifestations of God. For the power of God was there manifested, and was helpful both in waking visions and in dreams, often for the relief of many diseases and for those afflicted by some sudden transmutation in their affairs. The power was accredited to Mary, the Mother of God, the holy Virgin, for she does manifest herself in this way” (Church History 7:5 [A.D. 444]).

    Patrick of Ireland
    “And there truly [in Ireland] one night I heard in my sleep a voice saying to me, ‘You fast well; soon you will go to your fatherland.’ And again, after I very short time, I heard the heavenly voice saying to me, ‘Lo, your ship is ready.’ And it was not near at hand, but was distant, perhaps two hundred miles. And I had never been there, nor did I know any person living there. And thereupon I shortly took flight and left the man with whom I had been for six years. And I came in the strength of God, who prospered my way for good; and I met with nothing to alarm me until I reached that ship” (Confession of St. Patrick 17 [A.D. 452]).

    “And once more, after a few years, I was in Britain with my family. . . . And there indeed I saw in a vision of the night a man whose name was Victoricus coming as it were from Ireland with countless letters. He gave me one of them, and I read the beginning of the letter, which was entitled ‘The Voice of the Irish.’ And while I was reading aloud the beginning of the letter, I thought that at that very moment I heard the voices of those who dwelt beside the Wood of Foclut [in Ireland], which is nigh unto the Western Sea. And thus they cried, as with one mouth, ‘We beseech you, holy youth, to come and walk once more among us!’” (ibid., 23).

    “Let those who will, laugh and mock. I shall not be silent nor conceal the signs and wonders which were shown to me by the Lord many years before they came to pass, since he knows all things even before the world’s beginnings” (ibid., 45).

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  5. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    So these GSWYL you post have never really spoken to me, Mark. But these current words to Verne that you just posted are what I know to be true, and they are spot on with where we are today.

    I just got back from Mass, did anyone read the 1st reading today? They hit me like a ton of bricks as the lector proclaimed them. These are exactly the words the angel told Sister Sasagawa from Akita in October to share with the world:

    Wednesday of the First Week in Lent
    Lectionary: 226

    Reading 1 Jon 3:1-10
    The word of the LORD came to Jonah a second time:
    “Set out for the great city of Nineveh,
    and announce to it the message that I will tell you.”
    So Jonah made ready and went to Nineveh,
    according to the LORD’s bidding.
    Now Nineveh was an enormously large city;
    it took three days to go through it.
    Jonah began his journey through the city,
    and had gone but a single day’s walk announcing,
    “Forty days more and Nineveh shall be destroyed,”
    when the people of Nineveh believed God;
    they proclaimed a fast
    and all of them, great and small, put on sackcloth.

    When the news reached the king of Nineveh,
    he rose from his throne, laid aside his robe,
    covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in the ashes.
    Then he had this proclaimed throughout Nineveh,
    by decree of the king and his nobles:
    “Neither man nor beast, neither cattle nor sheep,
    shall taste anything;
    they shall not eat, nor shall they drink water.
    Man and beast shall be covered with sackcloth and call loudly to God;
    every man shall turn from his evil way
    and from the violence he has in hand.
    Who knows, God may relent and forgive, and withhold his blazing wrath,
    so that we shall not perish.”
    When God saw by their actions how they turned from their evil way,
    he repented of the evil that he had threatened to do to them;
    he did not carry it out.

    So has the world repented since October and have we earned the right for God to turn away and relent as He did for Ninevah? That's a rhetorical question :(
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    I had thought that also at Mass thos morning. Perfect target word for word.
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  7. Just as a refresher for those who may not be acquainted with these messages....a real source of understanding, esp. for poor sinners....IMHO....up until 2007:

    Here is just a portion of a message that instructs on what we may assume falsely:


    My son, I want you to write the following words to those who call themselves: the remnant. Many of you are looking forward to entering my era of peace. But do you truly comprehend what it will take to enter my era of peace? Study the exodus of my children of Israel and ask my Holy Spirit for his guidance. Pray to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mediatrix of all graces: For the graces of wisdom and understanding. In the book of Exodus, my children of Israel were delivered from the bondage of the land of Egypt. Now read Exodus 16:1-3. And they set forward from Elim and all the multitude of the children of Israel came into the desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai the 15 thday of the second month after they came out of the land of Egypt. And all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness. And the children of Israel said to them: Would to God we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat over the flesh pots, and ate bread to the full. Why have you brought us into this desert, that you might destroy the entire multitude with famine? Now read Numbers 14:21-24 and 28-31. As I live: and the whole earth shall be
    filled with the glory of the Lord. But yet all the men that have seen my majesty, and the signs that I have done in Egypt, and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now 10 times, and have not obeyed my voice, shall not see the land for which I swore to their fathers, neither shall any one of them that hath detracted me behold it. My servant Caleb, who being full of another spirit hath followed me, I will bring into this land which he hath gone round: and his seed shall possess it. Say therefore to them: As I live, saith the Lord: According as you have spoken in my hearing, so will I do to you. In the wilderness shall your carcasses lie. All you that were numbered from twenty years old and upward, and have murmured against me, shall not enter into the land, over which I lifted up my hand to make you dwell therein, except Caleb the son of Jephone, and Josue the son of Nun. But your children, of whom you said, that they should be a prey to the enemies, will I bring in: That they should be a prey to the enemies, will I bring in: that they may see the land which you have despised.

    In case you do not believe these words are relevant for you today; reread I Corinthians 10:11 – Now all these things happened to them in figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
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  8. And this GSWYL message of

    It meshes with the Trump prophecies given in 2011 to the retired firefighter, Mark Taylor. Mark was told that since not enough prayer was done through the first years of Barack Obama's "administration" we were given another term which brought us closer and closer to ruin before people began to awaken and pray for someone who could break this evil attempt to destroy America.

    So here are portions of what was given to Verne on the above date, 2007, just prior to the first term of O:

    If you as a nation, continue to sow to the flesh and break my commandments, you will suffer chastisement as a nation. My blessings and protection will be removed from your country and you will be judged. Be like the people of Nineveh and repent. The people of Nineveh were given one chance and they repented. My children of the United States, you have been given many chances, but you still ignore my warnings. The date and time of your nation’s demise has been set. The time for repentance is short. If you do not heed my warnings, you will be judged severely. The ungodly and the lukewarm will not enter my kingdom without repentance and penance.

    Your nation is ripe for the winepress of the wrath of God. I will allow the man of sin to take over your nation, if no repentance is done. Take heed my people to my warnings.
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  9. And another (portion of which) for these times w/ clear information:


    I created the world in six days. On the seventh day, I rested
    from the work of creation as Genesis 2:1-3 states. My people, this era of yours is soon
    coming to an end. The sixth day of creation is finished. The seventh day will be called
    the era of peace.
    This is a mystery which has been hidden from mankind for many years.
    My prophets have described these times to my people. Isaiah 30:26: And the light of the
    moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the
    light of seven days: in the day when the Lord shall bind up the wounds of his people, and
    shall heal the stroke of their wound.
    Now read Isaiah 65: 17-25. This is a description of
    my era of peace. To repeat myself, the seventh day of creation is the fulfillment of the era
    of peace.
    Now read Apocalypse 20:1-7. These verses also describe the era of peace. The
    casting of the man of sin and his followers into the pool of fire, marks the end of the 6th
    day of creation. At that time, I will renew my creation and the seventh day will begin.

    This day has been described as lasting 1000 years. Remember what my word states: II Peter 3:8: But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The entire era of peace is described as a time period of the seventh day or a thousand years. Only I the Lord God knows the length of the era of peace. During this era of peace, my son Jesus will reign through my Catholic church. This can be called the Eucharistic reign of my son.
    Do not be confused with the millennial heresy. My son is not going to reign in the flesh in the temporal City of Jerusalem. This is a heretical teaching. My son is going to reign in his Eucharistic glory in the New Jerusalem, which is my church. My son will only return in the flesh at the end of the era of peace or human history, to judge mankind at the last judgment.
    Time will not exist during my era of peace, as you understand it. Apocalypse 20:5-6 states: The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. In these the second death hath no power. But they shall be priests of God and of Christ: and shall reign with him a thousand years. This first resurrection occurs in the era of peace. My saints will be resurrected and receive glorified bodies and walk among my people, teaching and instructing the Catholic faith. This has been described as the temporal kingdom by the Church Fathers. This will be the Promised Land my children of Israel will inherit. My Will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven. Listen to the following words carefully. Only those who trust totally in God Almighty will inherit the Promised Land. Remember only 2 men, Josue and Caleb, entered the Promised Land in the Old Testament. To enter the era of peace, you must abandon yourself totally to my will. You must live the consecrations made to my daughter Mary and my son Jesus. You must follow the teachings of my Catholic Church, and pick up your cross daily following my son Jesus Christ. If you do not follow these words, you cannot enter my era of peace. The sin of unbelief prevented my children from entering the Promised Land in the Old Testament, and it will once again prevent my children from entering the era of peace. Let go of your attachment to earthly desires and attractions. You must be willing to be persecuted and totally dependent on your Lord and Savior. Remember: And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more. Luke 12:48

    My Catholic children, you have been given the complete truth. Do not reject your Catholic faith, for you will be held to the highest standard on the Day of Judgment.

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  10. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    This is exactly what I know to be true, it's actually quite consoling in that how would we ever fend for ourselves in what is coming? We couldn't, instead if are spiritually prepared (state of Grace, frequent reception of the sacraments going forward, monthly confession, mabye weekly now? and frequent reception of the Eucharist) and prepared to completely be able to rely on God's Providence, we will get through this.

    I can't tell you how many incredibly difficult situations I've had foisted on me over the past 12 months, accelerating recently. Each one were things that in the past I could battle my way out of, but not these. Each time I was led instead to follow a different path, not one I would have chosen, but I trusted. And each situation then would drag out for weeks and sometimes months, and there would be very difficult pitfalls, walls encountered that seemed insurmountable, but each time I kept trusting the path and going along, and each one of them has resolved favorably. In fact not just favorably but perfectly in ways I could not have made happen if I followed my will.

    I firmly believe this was preparation for what we are about to enter into. Very difficult situations and things will seem hopeless, but if we listen carefully and follow the promptings and Trust God, He will provide and care for us. And this will be very useful as examples to those around us, who may very well be literally freaking out, to learn to Trust God in all things, if we stay in his Grace :)
  11. And re: what is happening to religion/s today in order for the NWO material world and its fake god to enter....also within the Vatican's allowance:

    Portions of the 10-10-07 GSWYL message:

    Prior to my Son living among my people, mankind was barred from my kingdom. Original sin has had dire consequences on my people. Mankind, under the influence of Satan and his lies, developed false pagan religions, which worshipped the creature rather than the creator. Even my chosen people of Israel, committed the sin of idolatry many times. With the first coming of my Son in the flesh, my truth walked among my people. But my people did not see the truth, so the truth was crucified, died, buried, and resurrected on the 3 rd day. Once again, my son, your world is denying the truth and becoming a pagan world.

    Many in your world teach and believe all religions lead you to God.
    Many believe it does not matter how you pray because all religions pray to the same God. This is one of the most hideous lies Satan has deceived mankind into believing. These lies are causing many to spend eternity in hell.

    Satan is trying to trap and deceive my children into denying these truths. All religions teach partial truth, except the Holy Roman Catholic Church. It is the only church which teaches the fullness or completeness of my revelation to mankind. All other Christian denominations only teach partial truth. This is the design of Satan. Satan knows how mankind enters heaven. He knows by denying my Son and refusing my Son’s mercy, will send a soul to hell. But there is one truth Satan and his legions cannot comprehend; the depths of my mercy.

    Look at the world’s religions and their doctrines. For example, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and the Jewish religion all deny the sacrifice and divinity of my Son. Henceforth, these are false religions who deny also their Father.

    To repeat: it was only by my Son’s sacrifice on the cross that communication with your Father in heaven was established again! People in false religions are not praying to your Father, but to false gods. For my word clearly states: For all the gods of the gentiles are devils: but the Lord made the heavens. I alone, the Lord God Almighty, am the creator of heaven and earth, and my Son is the only way to reach your Father. All religions that deny this truth are not my will but are deceptions of Satan.

    Now read Ecclesiasticus 2:23. For according to his greatness, so also is his mercy with him. Ponder on this statement. My mercy is as great as my greatness. In other words, my mercy is beyond the comprehension of man, the angels, and the legions of hell. It is so great, I myself, as the second person of the Trinity, took on human flesh and paid the total price for the sins of mankind. Notice, I did not pay a partial price, but the total price. Then I instituted my church and established the Holy Eucharist to share myself totally with my people. Even in your sinful generation, I show you my mercy. I have given you the Blessed Virgin Mary as a sign for your times. Numerous messages, Eucharistic and other miracles, and even a divine mercy Sunday, have been given to my people. But my people still reject my mercy. A final act of mercy for this generation will come. It is called by many names. It will be a warning to this generation to repent or face my justice. This event will happen soon in your measurement of time. Again, this is because of my great mercy. If my people reject my mercy after seeing the condition of their souls, a great chastisement will come to mankind. I am merciful to mankind until the last moment. At the hour of death, every soul is given one last chance to accept my mercy through my Son Jesus Christ. It is the rejection of my mercy at the hour of death which causes a soul to be cast into hell. At the last judgment, no person will be able to make the claim of not knowing the truth. All souls are given an opportunity to accept my mercy, even if at the last breath. This is why many will be surprised who made it to heaven and who went to hell. Many pagans accept my mercy when given the opportunity. This is why it is important for every soul in sanctifying grace to live and preach the gospel to the world. For it is difficult, at the hour of death, for a soul without sanctifying grace, to accept my mercy. This is why my word says: Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation. II Corinthians 6:2.
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  12. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    For those who have ears to hear, these messages bring clarity to what God wants us to know as we enter into the worst times man has ever faced. God is loving and brings forth what we need to do and keep our eyes towards. No time has man's actions, especially within the clergy, been more opposed to God's eternal truths. So no time has God sent more prophets to teach and guide his people, as he has today. Most won't pay attention, but they can't blame God, as if he has been silent with indifference.
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  13. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Thank you, Fatima. I've read some of GSWYL before. I'll be reading more.
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  14. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    These “messages” are highly, highly suspect. Those new to the thread would benefit from reading through from the beginning to understand the reasons why. People like messages that seem to confirm what they believe will come. Reminds me of a mix between Charlie and Lttw. Nothing new.
  15. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Very valid point.
  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    So those new can take the naysayers Frodo's and Prince of Peace negative words if you like. They have tried to disrupt the thread on God's gift of Living in His Divine Will as well.

    These messages in the book God Speaks Will You Listen were first given by Cletus to the monks in St. John Collegeville, Minnesota about 12 years ago. They studied them all and found nothing in them contrary to our Catholic faith and moral teachings. They were given to Cletus' pastor, who was a faithful holy priest, who read the book and blessed all 20,000 books Cletus had made at the printers of Verne's messages. Most of these books were trucked unboxed (of 60) to known refuges throughout the US that Cletus was given to know. This book was given to the former head of the Marian Movement of Priest after Father Goobi, who found nothing in the book contrary to our Catholic faith teachings and found this book most unique in how the messages were supported by scripture throughout. Something he said he has never seen in the many messages he would receive from around the world and asked to keep his copy to share with other priests. The picture of God the Father shown on was blessed by a holy exorcist priest after Mass. There is a story on this web site from a Lady (Michelle), who was healed from a serious injury, by looking into the eyes of God the Father on the painting after the picture was blessed. Recently, God told Verne that anyone who looks at the picture of God the Father in the book GSWYL or the picture on the web site, trusting in Your Father and praying the Lord's Prayer with faith in Him will be cured of their ills. Michele, who tells her story on the web site, was the first to be healed by just looking at the picture and God said to Verne within the past week that this picture was made for this time, OUR TIME, for healings of the plagues and other healings we need.

    Now those with out faith in this will gain nothing from the book or the picture. You will always have naysayers, but those with faith will know God's healing's and his teachings in this book are for these times. Be assured, the book and the picture of God the Father were blessed by a faithful priest.
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  17. Odd that you would think, contrary to human nature, that people would actually desire such things as the fully un-lived as yet but coming just punishments (IF there is no conversion) as spoken of in these messages to be realized by this sinful world. Rather, since you yourself keep returning to what you advise others against, trying to interfere in the reminders of what the Faith teaches, you actually speak to the benefit of such helps as these messages. Or else you are going against your own conscience and should then refrain from such "temptations" as you see them to be. Taking your own advice first, to stay away, would be at least a sign that you really believe in that advice yourself.

    Meanwhile, the fruits continue ..... especially for poor sinners. Thank God for the prophets of these times. The Church, needing its own repentance and cleansing, should be the first to listen to them!
  18. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Since this thread has a long history, is quite long, and there may be newcomers who did not have the time to read through it; it seems only right to restate the concerns many members have brought up over the years on this thread.

    - His messages present, at the very least, a tacit endorsement of Christina Gallagher (!). The difficulties with her are well documented, but the reader can suit themselves.

    - The messages also lend endorsement to Garabandal, which contradicts Christina Gallagher in some aspects (WW3). Readers should be concerned as both cannot be correct (!).

    - Messages contradict Church teaching and tradition as to the timing and sequence of the glorified bodies (before the final persecution of the Church – which is ludicrous). This is very clear in the scriptures, CCC, and tradition/Church fathers.

    - Even if you ignore that last point ( which is not advisable) it makes no sense that Satan will attack the Church AFTER we all have glorified bodies. By definition they are immortal and incapable of feeling pain. It fails even the logic test (!).

    - Messenger was a member of the occult (!!!). This is a serious thing that the Church has urged the faithful to be very cautious about. He should really submit his messages to the proper Ecclesiastical authorities. It is unprecedented that an ex-witch receives messages and does not have to go through the proper channels for approval. In fact, in most instances, Our Lady/Lord insist on this themselves in the messages.

    All these things that I have stated are true. All present difficulties to those discerning, albeit in various degrees.

    For these reasons I do think that the messages are problematic and pose a danger to the faithful.

    All - be cautioned, these messages have grave concerns for the faithful.
  19. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Frodo now wants to attack the messenger, as if he himself has no sin, nor that sin can be forgiven. Yes the messenger in the book God Speak Will You Listen was in an occult and has a very good understanding of its ways, which now servers a purpose for his mission for God, by understanding how the devil works in this world. Once he got married to a Catholic lady he became Catholic himself and renounced his sinful past. Now Frodo may think he is without sin, but our Lord said all have sinned and fallen short of the kingdom of God. Shortly after coming into the Catholic faith, Verne started receiving messages from God. He was told to write them down, which he did, and did nothing else with them. They laid in a box until he met Cletus through his Catholic Church. Cletus asked to read them and did so. It was Cletus, a holy man of God, who had the gift of healing and other mystical gifts, who knew everything in them to be true, as God had revealed to him. It was Cletus who paid for the messages to be published in book form. It was Cletus who promoted the messages and provided them to priests, theologians and monks who all acknowledge nothing in them was contrary to our Catholic faith. Yes, even the "glorified bodies" that has the feathers of Frodo ruffled. It makes every since that Satan will be allowed one last time at the end of the world to attack God's people, because it is scriptural! Anyone who has read Revelations 19 and 20 knows this to be true. Its all right there for all to read and know! After the era of peace, the 7th day of creation, the devil will be allowed to return one last time, which brings about the end of this world and into the 8th day of creation for all eternity for all. You can read it all for yourself in Revelations 20.

    If anyone has doubt about God's work through Verne and Cletus, visit the web site and read the testimony of the lady who was badly injured and healed immediately after she looked upon the picture of God the Father that Cletus was shown in a vision when he was 19 years old and then had painted later in life. Because of this she was able to join the Sisters of Charity. This is all part of the work of the same man who read and understood God's messages given to his friend Verne and made them into a book for these time today. The book GSWYL was read and blessed by a holy priest of God.

    As far as Christina Gallagher, I doubt that Frodo has met her or her long time spiritual director Father McGinnity. I have and I believe her to be a true messenger of God. I know other holy men and women of God who have received confirmation of this as well. Christina's messages are unfolding as we speak. I believe it is scripture that said, "no prophet is received their own land".
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    One thing about Prophesy is that it's not really about being a time machine as such. Very occasionally it does pin point coming events, but that's not its real mission. What Prophesy does is bring God into specific conversations and situations. It gives a God eye sight. It gives heavens perspective.

    But we have a natural human need to have a time line, a future road map. But that's not really what Prophecy is all about.

    All Catholics I think are called to be Prophets/ Simply by living a good Catholic Life in a Pagan World we become Prophets in that we bring Light into Darkness. We add God to the equation.

    In the same way we are all called to be Prophets, we are all called to be saints.

    In a real sense , when people see us they should be seeing Jesus.

    Of course most of the Prophets wound up getting killed:):)

    I think in some sense of being a good Catholic, if someone somewhere is trying nail us to a Cross we are not doing our job right.:D:D:D
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