Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by Xavier, Nov 19, 2019.
This is what I was thinking of......
This sure sounds to me like the Warning:
“A great moment is approaching," the Virgin told Esperanza, “A great day of light!" Maria Esperanza did not foresee the end of the world; she saw a coming purification. “The moment has arrived in which mankind must awaken”, says Esperanza, “we must awaken to the love of God. In the coming years a new light from heaven will illuminate hearts, but before it does there will be hardship”. She foresaw war, societal problems, and natural disasters. But she also sees a cleansing that will restore humankind.“
I'm almost certain this is false.
I think you have to provide the actual date & quote for this. I don't know much about Medjugorje, but I sure know about Garabandal, and I've never heard this.
It was Mirjana, one of the Medjugorje visionaries.
Blessed Mary said, ‘What I started at Fatima, I will finish in Medjugorje. My heart will triumph.’
Medjugorje is the greatest miracle to happen in history? to say you don't know much about it is disappointing; also I believe your doubt concerning my post was resolved by the person who posted immediately after your questioning.
Thank you. Mystic post has been very reliable when it comes to Medjugorje. I didn’t know Mirjana said this.
I didnt see the post AFTER mine so how could I know, and I never mentioned the Medjugorje Miracle in my post,why did you bring it up ? And Im disappointed in YOU as you dont know anything about Garabandal.
I have followed Garabandal for 50 years; that's almost as long as you've been alive young man! what is it that I do not know about Garabandal?
I posted the following:
If you believe in Medjugorje, as I do, it should be noted:
Our Lady allegedly told one of the visionaries: "What I began in Garabandal will be completed in Medjugorje."
You said you didn't know much about Medjugorje and you joined the others who said Our Lady never made such a statement. Another member
found the quote.
On second thought, quibbling over prophecy is not a good thing. From now on, whatever you say goes.
The quote verifies my statement and objection. Mary NEVER said "Garabandal" , she said "Fatima". Why is it that you are starting with me WHEN YOU ARE 100% WRONG ? (PS. I WORKED WITH JOEY ON A DAILY BASIS AT THE NY CENTER, AS HIS DIRECTOR OF PR. AND BEEN FRIENDS WITH CONCHITA SINCE 1993 , SPEAK TO HER REGULARLY, SO YEAH ON THIS PAGE I KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
Bump. Just want to check the dates.
The date for the mitracle has already come and gone. The reason being:
Interview with Conchita. Bishop Garmendia (08-27-1981)
Bishop: … Are there any other relationships between Rome, the Holy Father and the Miracle that you would like to talk about?
Conchita: Yes. The Virgin told us something related to the Holy Father, and it was that before the Miracle there would be only three more Popes.
Bishop: I want this to be very clear to all who hear this tape. Conchita was very precise. The Virgin told you that before the Miracle…?
Conchita: At the time, Pope John XXIII was living. The Virgin said, "Three more Popes are left; there will be only three more Popes." She was then speaking about the end of the times.
Since Francis is the fifth (5) Pope after John XXIII and the Miracle has not occurred that shows that Conchita's statement has not come at most by March 13, 2013. If not that then April 19, 2005 with the election of the fourth (4) pope BXVI or even with the election of the third (3) pope John Paul II on October 16, 1978. Take your pick. There are many to pick from. More are on their way.
After this many popes you would think that people would wise up that the date for the Miracle that Conchita knows has long gone and past. But never underestimate the gullibility of human beings. You know those beings that have the fallen nature of Adam and Eve.
You purposely left out ALOT OF FACTS, cherry-picking one line as proof , did you forget Im here with ALL THE FACTS ?
IT”S 4 POPES (Not 3 ) until the “ end of THE times “
Conchita said after the death of JohnXXIII , there would be 4 more popes ,”until the end of THE times” ,(NOT the end of all time, NOT the end of the Popes either ) meaning a new era begins. This is the era we are now in ( after the 4 popes Paul VI, JP I, JP II, Benedict ) it is now that we will experience the WARNING & MIRACLE .
Albrecht Weber, the author of the book “The Finger of God“, had become involved in Garabandal in 1963 and became friendly with Conchita. On November 14, 1965, the day after the last apparition of Our Lady in Garabandal, Mr. Weber interviewed Conchita at her home in the presence of her mother. There was also present with Mr. Weber an interpreter. During that interview, it came out that when Conchita had spoken, on the very day that Pope John XXIII died, of “Three more Popes and then would come the end of the times,” her mother had asked her several questions.
In response to one of her mother’s questions, Conchita responded that Our Lady had actually said that there would be FOUR MORE POPES but that She was not counting one of them. When Conchita’s mother heard that she strictly forbade Conchita to repeat that again as her mother feared there would be erroneous interpretations and much gossip. People might wrongly believe that one of the Popes might be false or bad, etc. During that conversation with her mother, Conchita also said that Our Lady had told her that one of the Popes would have a very short reign. (which turned out to be Pope John Paul I only 33 days ! )
You must understand what Conchita was referencing . When she was told that there would be 4 more popes, then it would be" the end of THE times" this meant an "end of an era." ( not the end of all time or the end of all popes ) The prophecy had nothing to do with the future number of popes, it was MARKING A PERIOD IN TIME. The reason it is the end is we are entering a new era, one which this generation will witness the "Warning, and the great "Miracle !
And when the 6th and 7th popes arrive what then?
This narrative can only go on for so long.
But for the true believers there is always more time.
Glenn, when was this clarification made, about Conchita saying it was actually 4 more popes but she wasn't counting one? In the post above, that interview appears to be from 1981. So at that time, Conchita was still saying 3 popes? When did she clarify that it was actually 4 popes?
With the (apparent) election of Mr. Bergoglio to the Chair of St. Peter, I think we have entered into a different time, a different era, in the Church's life. The doctrinal confusion that is rampant, the delight of the Church's enemies in her seeming embrace of trendy secularist positions, the suppression of the Ancient Mass, all point to this being a decidedly different time from the past. This is not a time of "business as usual" - it is a time ripe for the Warning and Miracle, which can't come soon enough, to my mind.
Again, we have seen the posting of countless predictions about the dates of the warning, etc. All have failed. Its time to wake up and stop following false prophets.
If you have not accepted Medjugorje as legitimate and not followed the messages, read no further. If you believe in both Garabandal and Medjugorje as legitimate, my posts may be of benefit.
I have a doctorate and have spent hundreds of hours, since 1981, analyzing the messages of both apparitions. Also the prediction of St. Bridget of Sweden is very much applicable to both apparition sites.
I am posting here for the purpose of providing information. Like you, I want the miracles to take place as soon as possible.
I am not attempting to convince anyone of the truth herein. Most persons will disagree with me.
FACT: 40 years have passed since the beginning of the apparitions at Medjugorje.
FACT: Despite false claims that the secrets would be revealed this year because of the passing of 40 years, nothing has happened.
FACT: Before the very first secret is disclosed, all six visionaries there must have ALL received all 10 secrets. To this date, 9-30-2021, only a mere 3 of the visionaries have all 10 secrets and the remaining 3 visionaries have 9 secrets.
FACT: The third secret of Medjugorje will be the warning. It will occur in June of 2038. Many people will convert after this occurs but many will still obstinately remain in serious sin.
We have "long years" of tribulation before us. Most devout catholics will suffer serious forms of persecution. Laws will be passed that are diametrically opposed to church teaching. Some shepherds of the church will accept false doctrines.
This post is primarily to inform you of the date of 2038. I will not argue with you. You have been informed. My job now is to pray and make sacrifices. You would do well to do the same. God bless you and thank you very much for taking the time to read my post.
Jerome the Short
Good Morning, Jerome....why the year 2038? just interested in how you came up with that particular date? Thanks, Donna
I appreciate your time and research into this as most of us speculate on the timeline of these events ourselves.
I have not researched it myself but have reviewed many who have. To my knowledge, everyone’s conclusions are different, yet we know and believe the prophecies will occur.
I guess only Our Lady and God will reveal the exact dates at their appointed time,but please continue to contribute to the forum. A great majority here are interested in this highly debated topic and timeline.
It's right htere in my post , the Weber interview On November 14, 1965, and then he put it in his book. (No where in my post does it say 1981) .