Notre Dame Cathedral, Paris, is on fire

Today Spirit Daily's headline is about the holy card under discussion here:

Is It Really That Old?





The holy card above, a viewer informs us, “is 129 years old. It’s imagery is based on approved prophecies given to seer Marie Julie Jahenny. Notre Dame engulfed in flames behind Jesus. The other church is St. Peter’s Basilica. Strange, don’t you think?”

If it’s that old (and it does look so), strange indeed — an example that prophecy can take more forms than straightforward locutions, apparitions, words of knowing, and visions.

A hundred and twenty-nine years ago is 1890 — indeed, the time during which Jahenny, a stigmatic from La Fraudais in France, was spewing forth dire prophecies.

In looking it up, we see that according to some bloggers, the building to the left of Notre Dame on the holy card may be Sainte-Chapelle [below],also in Paris, where the Crown of Thorns and other relics of the Crucifixion — later moved to Notre Dame — were once kept by royalty. If it is, the holy card represents a side of the royal complex of which it was a part, not the spires of the chapelle itself.



Artwork also seemed to foretell of 9/11, but let’s get back to the mystic Jahenny and her prophetic cri de cœur, which had often to do with the Church.

“In their (priests’) aberration, they will break their oaths,” she once quoted Heaven as telling her. “The Book of Life contains a list of names that ‘rends the heart.’

“Because of the little respect it has for the apostles of God, the flock grows careless and ceases to observe the laws. The priest himself is responsible for the lack of respect because he does not respect enough his holy ministry, and the place which he occupies in his sacred functions. The flock follows in the footsteps of its pastors; this is a great tragedy.

“The clergy will be severely punished on account of their inconceivable fickleness and great cowardice which is incompatible with their functions.

“A terrible chastisement has been provided for those who ascend every morning the steps of the Holy Sacrifice. I have not come on your altars to be tortured. I suffer a hundredfold more from such hearts than any of the others. I absolve you from your great sins, My children, but I cannot grant any pardon to these priests.” They were not exactly clement words.

“All the anger of the wicked is focused on the Holy See,” said Jahenny (December 8, 1874). “The chastisements will begin with Paris.”



For France and Europe, many if not most of her prophecies materialized in the late 1800s and into the 1900s, including with the world wars. As writer Glenn Dallaire has pointed out, “On September 15, 1879, she predicted Bismarck’s ‘Kulturkampf’. September 15th, 1881, she foretold in detail the death of Melanie Calvat, the visionary of La Salette, which happened on December 15th, 1904. She predicted the eruption of Mount Pelé in Martinique, then described the horrific events as they occurred despite the fact she was half a world away. In 1881 she was shown the Transvaal War, announcing it would take place at the death of Queen Victoria, which happened in 1901. She predicted the death of the Count De Chambord, the last direct descendant of the Bourbon royal house of France. Just before the successor to Pope Leo XIII was chosen, she declared only a few days before the conclave the ‘Adriatic Cardinal is chosen by God, his reign will be that of Christ. He will not last long and will be called Pius.’ She was correct in that Pius X did not last as long as the previous Pope named ‘Pius.’ Pius X, former cardinal of Venice, fulfilled the prophecy as ‘Adriatic Cardinal’ and was Pope for eleven years, while Pius IX reigned for over thirty-one years.

“Marie-Julie correctly announced beforehand the French would lose their colony of Algeria to the Arabs and the priests of that country would suffer horrible trials. She also foresaw World War I and World War II. Our Lord promised she would live to see the beginning of the chastisements, and she lived to see World War II.”

Are her prophecies thus complete?

Famously, she expanded upon prophecies of a terrifying “three days darkness” that would cover the world, prophecies that had begun with cloistered mystical French nuns a century before. Much of what she foresaw also echoed an alleged secret from LaSalette to Melanie.

In another text, dated November 1882, was a warning that the greatest attack to the Church before the chastisements would start when certain bishops demanded separation themselves from the Pope, creating a huge schism. That too has not yet occurred, though we may be seeing precursors of it. She constantly urged obedience to the Pontiff.

Chastisements common in the world would well up and succeed one another without ceasing, said Jahenny, who was confined to bed for much of her life. “The crisis will come on all of a sudden,” she once remarked, “and the Chastisement will be worldwide.”

Were the world wars truly global? Were they the Chastisement?

Or does something await in the wings for the future?




https://spiritdailyblog.com/prophecy/is-it-really-that-old

 

Thanks for posting this. Yes, I suspect the holy card is really old. I said "suspect"

 

The holy card is fascinating, I can't stop looking at it. I think it has a big story to tell. I wondered about the other images as well as the transfer of relics.

 

If it "puzzles" the police and ecclesiastical leaders then they ought to ask the common man who can simply add 2 + 2 = 4 and conclude the cause!

Another French Church Burns on Easter Sunday, Probable Arson

Police have confirmed that a fire in the French church of Notre-Dame de Grâce on Easter Sunday appears to have been intentionally set, making it the latest in a string of desecrations of Christian churches in the country.

The fire was started in a large, wooden confessional around 4:30pm and proceeded to consume a dais in the presbytery of the eighteenth-century church located in the southern French town of Eyguières, near Provence.

“Flames several meters high were coming out of the church,” said the mayor of Eyguières, Henri Pons, before a team of 30 firefighters with six vehicles arrived and managed to contain the blaze.

An area of some 20 square meters in the church was destroyed but observers have noted that the damage would have been far worse had it not been it not for the bold intervention of a local inhabitant.


Notre Dame de Grace

A man who lives in front of the church saw the flames emerging from a stained-glass window, the mayor said. He “used fire extinguishers from the village movie theater and courageously entered the church while waiting for firefighters to arrive.”

“If this brave citizen, a former top sportsman, had not intervened, the church would probably have burned to the ground,” the mayor reported. “It was Easter Sunday and there was almost nobody in the village.”

The local hero, a judo champion by the name of Joel Jouve, said afterward that the air in the church was “unbreathable” and there was very little light when he entered, but he was able to find two holy water fonts, which he emptied onto the fire.

“I shouted for someone to find me fire extinguishers and I used them on the fire,” he said, adding he was just happy to have “saved something.”

According to the local parish priest, the Catholic community is still in shock.

“After Notre-Dame in Paris and especially the attacks in Sri Lanka, this fire moved the faithful who were preparing to celebrate the joy of Easter,” said Father Christophe Nowak. “They are in shock and messages of support have been arriving.”

“It is an ordeal but life must go on,” the priest said.

An investigation has been opened to determine the causes of the fire, enlisting the assistance of experts from the Gendarmerie Scientifique. Investigators are treating the blaze as arson.

A dozen Catholic churches were desecrated across France over the period of just one week this past March and the recent spate of church profanations has puzzled both police and ecclesiastical leaders.

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/201...church-burns-on-easter-sunday-probable-arson/

 

This reminds me of the verger to n Sri Lanka who refused admittence to the suicide bomber, died hi myself but saved the entire Church .

Wonderful man, God's angel on Earth.

Apparently one of the bombers blew up on purpose a children's Sunday School.

The mind fairly boggles

 

Is there any truth in the rumour that the spire on the restored "symbol of France, its heritage and its unity" will be a leather handbag, a plastic tube of anti-wrinkle cream or a glass brandy bottle? A square and compass might be too blatant even for Macron.

 

I vote on the leather handbag and the glass brandy bottle. Maybe the Lancôme wrinkle cream?

 

All I can say is wow...just wow!
Thank you Dolours .... !

 

I thought that was a firing squad killing a martyr. Not sure, of course.

 

To me the group of men lined up look to be shooting the people’s in front of them...it looks like one has fallen to the ground. The man standing in front of the firing squad looks to be holding a cross possibly? With a women holding a baby in her arms behind him. Persecuted for their faith?

Unless my old eyes deceive me....

 

Yes HH...that’s what it looked like to me too.

 

Firing Squad for sure. And the figure appears to be holding up a Cross.

 

I’m not holding out hope that Macron will restore it to its original design..praying I’m wrong...but not expecting anything good here....

 

Yes I believe you are correct. Not sure, but there's something about the dark smoke rising from what looks like St. Peter's Basilica; it has a sinister look about it. Almost looks like some sort of figure in the smoke when I magnify the card, but I'm looking at it on my tablet so it's not the best view, or maybe it's just my overactive imagination.

 

Yes, a firing squad killing a martyr - most likely a priest, and possibly the Archbishop of Paris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Darboy . Dedicated to and named for the Sacred Heart, Sacre Coeur was built as an act of penance after the French were defeated by the Prussians, and for the radical socialist Paris Communards who ruled Paris for a couple of months in 1871. Montmartre was chosen as the site for Sacre Coeur because Montmartre was considered to be the most rebellious area of Paris, and the Basilica stands on the highest point in the city. There has been perpetual exposition of the Blessed Sacrament in Paris since 1875 (five years before the date of the prayer card). I'm convinced that the domed building in the picture is Sacre Coeur. There were ongoing arguments in France over who should pay for the completion of Sacre Coeur or whether the building should have been permitted. There was an attempt to halt its completion as late as 1897 (three years prior to the date of the prayer card) despite its having been in use for six years. There are other churches in Paris with domes similar to that in picture on the prayer card - one of them being the Pantheon which may be a museum now - but none of them fits the bill as well as Sacre Coeur.

Karl Marx called the Paris Commune an example of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (an intermediate stage in the transitions to a communist system of government). Americans might be interested to know that Karl Marx didn't coin the phrase "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". That was Joseph Weydemeyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Weydemeyer
A German communist contemporary and friend of Marx and a veteran of the 1848 Revolutiona AKA "The People's Spring" in Europe, Weydemeyer was a journalist.
From Wikipedia:

After a second visit to Marx in Brussels in 1846, Weydemeyer went back to Germany to organize the Communist League in Cologne. This was the organization for which Marx and Engels wrote the Communist Manifesto in 1847.​

Weydemeyer wasn't the only Communist "Forty-Eighter" with strong links to the US Republican Party. For example Fritz Anneke:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Anneke
From Wikipedia:

He was one of the leading figures of the Communist movement in Cologne, together with his friends Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Moses Hess (later the intellectual father of Zionism and the State of Israel).​

Both Anneka and his wife were friends of Moses Hess who gave them refuge when they fled to France after the failed revolution in Germany.
Anneke, whose brother was the first Republican Auditor General in Michigan, worked as a European reporter for US media and during that time he tried to join Garibaldi's revolutionary movement in Italy. Evidently that didn't work out for him because he returned to the US and became a colonel in the Wisconsin Volunteers. His son, Percy, co-founded and owned the Fitger Brewing Company in Duluth, Minnesota.

Lots of interesting reading in the links on the various Wikipedia pages.

 

I'm glad you mentioned Moses Hess, the true founder of Communism, the one no one talks about. He's also the founder of Zionism. When I see how mesmerized the West has become with Zionism, it gives new meaning to the statement "when Communism comes again...."

That prayer card also gives me goosebumps and not in a good way. It appears to show Notre Dame burning exactly as we saw it burn recently: in the prayer card only the roof and spire are pictured burning, with the two towers surviving; this is exactly what unfolded recently. It also appears to show Sacre Coeur on fire. If "they" succeed in setting fire to Sacre Coeur and ending the perpetual adoration which has been ongoing there for over 100 years in an act of penance, then I believe the destruction of Paris (either due to manmade or supernatural causes) would be imminent.

 

Regarding the prayer card:

The picture doesn't show Notre Dame burning. That's Sainte Chapelle which is not far from Notre Dame and was the chapel built by King (later St.) Louis to house the crown of thorns and other relics. The king had direct access from the palace to Ste. Chapelle. The chapel also served as a kind of parish church for the palace. It had two levels, the upper level being for the king and dignitaries and the lower level for the rest of the staff. That might seem elitist and anti-Christian to us but I think that back then it would have been rare for the servants to hear Mass in the royal chapel, especially if members of the royal family were attending Mass.

Yes, Moses Hess is regarded as the father of Zionism but I think that's because the modern state of Israel was his idea and that, other than relocating to Israel, he didn't do much to make it happen. He and other Jews were very much involved in the European revolutions and with the rise of Communism. He held some peculiar, rather racist opinions which I've quoted previously on the forum. He had great hopes for Germany, believing the Germans to be a cut above other Europeans but had left Germany before the rise of fascism. The kind of racism or nationalism he flirted with didn't turn out so well for the Jews who remained in Germany.

The main reason I posted those links about the Forty-Eighters wasn't about partisan US politics. It was to show how ideology driven people (hope that's the correct term) use the poor and downtrodden to further their own agendas, and to show that while people and parties may change the methods don't. Saul Alynski's "rules" were drawn up in Europe long before he appeared on the scene. Also, I think it could be argued that Marks and Engels merely fine-tuned what had already begun in Europe with the so-called Enlightenment.

I'm editing this to say that it would be wrong for us to assume that there is some kind of Jewish conspiracy because individual Jews have played a role in destabilising European countries. That certain people of other faiths like to point out that Hitler was a baptised Catholic doesn't give us the right to go down the road of vilifying whole swathes of people of other faiths or people of any particular race. Hitler had long since abandoned Catholicism and embraced the Occult by the time he got involved in politics. Many of those Jews had abandoned their own faith when they fomented communist or anarchist revolution. The likes of Soros is really no different than those early Communist activists but there are plenty of Jews who aren't fans of Soros.

 

Yes, it could very well be Sainte-Chapelle, but the proximity of Notre Dame's towers to it is interesting, and one could easily mistake it for Notre Dame as viewed from the South looking North. The buildings being burned are somewhat ambiguous: it could be Sainte-Chapelle and it could be Sacre Coeur, or is it Notre Dame and Saint Peter's Basilica? The fact that just the roof and spire burn with two towers that look a lot like Notre Dame's is chilling, given that the survival of the two towers was given strong emphasis by the media during the tragedy.