Medjugorje

Discussion in 'Mother of God' started by ComeSoon!, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. KyleHancock

    KyleHancock Principalities

    But the Vatican would have almost certainly asked to see the parchment wouldn't they?
     
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  2. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    One would think that they would have examined the parchment. Not sure if this ever happened.
     
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  3. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    Although, Mirjana says in her book that "I realized then that only I could read what was actually written on it [the parchment]". This was because both a cousin and a friend saw the parchment and read it. However, her cousin said she saw some kind of prayer or poem. Her friend said she saw a letter in which "a person was asking for help". So "neither of them saw the same thing".

    But in a slightly contradictory manner, Mirjana then says that the parchment's existence "means I do not necessarily have to be alive to reveal the secrets". Perhaps it is the case that the priest which Mirjana has chosen will be given the grace or ability to read the parchment if it became a necessity for him to read it, i.e. if Mirjana happened to die before the appointed time for the revelation of the secrets?

    Whether the Pope or the Vatican could decipher what is written on the parchment is also an open question.
     
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  4. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Just to clarify for everyone:
    1. Mirjana and Ivanka are the only visionaries who have “parchments”.
    2. All but Ivan seem to have Mary’s life written down in one way or another.
    3. Cardinal Fernandez stated that they did not interview the Medjugorje visionaries before the “nihil obstat”, so they haven’t seen the parchment/secrets.
     
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  5. Hi, just wondering where you found information that Ivanka also has a parchment?
     
  6. From Sister Emmanuel Maillard's monthly newsletter, she explains the protocol for publishing messages :

    2. A major turning point for the messages! After Marija’s apparition on September 25th, the translators of the message received an unusual surprise: following the Nihil Obstat granted by the Vatican for Medjugorje, the message could be translated and then submitted for approval by the Church before being published. This approval was granted a few hours later by Mgr. Aldo Cavalli (PS1)

    See in PS2 the current situation of the 6 visionaries.

    PS1 Mgr. Aldo Cavalli has been the special apostolic visitor for the parish of Medjugorje since 27 November 2021. He took over from Mgr. Henryk Hoser, who died on 13 August of that year in Warsaw.


    PS2. Each one of the 6 visionaries is to receive 10 secrets. Ivanka, Mirjana and Jakov have already received their 10 secrets, and they receive an apparition once a year. Ivan, Vicka and Marija have only received 9 secrets to date, and they still have a daily apparition. Each visionary will choose a priest who will be responsible for revealing his or her secrets to the world, after having fasted for 7 days with the visionary. Our Lady asks us not to talk about the secrets, but to pray for the secrets. “Less words, more prayer!”
     
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  7. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    I thought it was in Jan Connel’s book but it’s not. I’ll have to do a bit of digging.
     
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  8. Sam

    Sam Powers

    Message, 25. October 2024

    “Dear children, At this time, when you are celebrating the day of All Saints, seek their intercession and prayers so that in union with them, you may find peace. May the Saints be your intercessors and example, that you imitate them and live holily. I am with you and intercede before God for each of you. Thank you for having responded to my call.“ (With Ecclesiastical approval)
     
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  9. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Can anyone who speaks Croatian tell me if the original message is using more “Douay-Rheims”/old-fashioned language or if it’s just the English translation?

    One message this year had “Darnell” and now “holily”, which are definitely not usual terms.
     
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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There have been reports of things happening in Medugorje at the moment regarding the secrets on utube. But the videos are created by AI so I ignore them. You can make an AI video at the press of a button.

    I do hope the secrets, when they are released are not suppressed by the Vatican, but who knows?
     
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  11. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Those videos are fake, I’ve seen them in my feed constantly for like two years.

    That’s possible, but I don’t think that everyone in Medjugorje will just go along with it. Someone’s bound to publish it anyways. Plus the cleric in charge of Medjugorje believes, so I can’t imagine him silencing the secrets.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I hope so,
    sigh,
    I hope so.

    But they buried the Third Secret of Fatima and rubbished true Marian Apparitions, the serpent truly does bite the ankle of Eve.
     
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  13. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    But we know that the victor will be Our Lady!
     
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  14. Sam

    Sam Powers



    It's probably the translator.

    The message:
    “Draga djeco! U ovom vremenu kada slavite dan svih svetih, tražite njihov zagovor i molitve, da biste u jedinstvu s njima pronašli mir. Neka vam sveci budu zagovaratelji i primjer da ih nasljedujete i sveto živite. Ja sam s vama i zagovaram pred Bogom za svakoga od vas. Hvala vam što ste se odazvali mome pozivu.

    Google translates it as live a holy life.
     
  15. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Thank you.
     
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  16. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Ivan’s apparition will be live-streamed today on MaryTV. It will be an evening of prayer, beginning at 5:00 (EST - basically in an hour).
     
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  17. InVeritatem

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  18. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    Marija came with Ivan to Boston. The priest said Mass and then they prayed the Glorious Mysteries. Our Lady appeared for about five minutes to both Ivan and Marija. She greeting everyone with, “Praised be Jesus my dear children”. Mary prayed in Aramaic for the sick, for the intentions of all those present, and she gave her motherly blessing and blessed the religious objects. Then she left with, “Go in peace, my dear children”. The visionaries then recited the Magnificat. Ivan and Marija both spoke for a long time. Marija mentioned Lourdes and how fortunate they are to still be living witnesses of a Marian apparition. The evening of prayer concluding with a priestly blessing.
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you.
     
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  20. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Angels

    November 25, 2024

    “Dear children, In this time of the grace of expectation, I desire to call you to prayer for Advent to be prayer of the family. In a special way, little children whom I tenderly embrace, I encourage you to prayer for peace in the world; for peace to prevail over peacelessness and hatred. Thank you for having responded to my call.”

    Every month when I read the message I think of a practical and prayerful way to apply it to my life. Last month, when the message concerned intercession of the Saints, I prayed the Litany of the Saints every day. Today, when the message references Advent, I have decided to pray the Infant Jesus of Prague Chaplet every day, with the intention of peace.
     

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