May 14 Pope calls all faiths together to pray

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Child of God, May 8, 2020.

  1. Ezdra

    Ezdra Angels

    And the last possible day for this calendar year for the Miracle to happen! I expect very much to happen on this day, although not the Miracle itself. Unfortunately, i cannot allow myself to speak openly in public for questions I deem secretive and even dangerous personally for me.
     
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  2. Child of God

    Child of God New Member

    YES!
    I question the day as well in my original post. The day Israel declared itself as a nation, the day President Trump declared Jerusalem the Capital or Israel and opened Embassy there.... just too many coincidences for me.
     
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  3. Child of God

    Child of God New Member

    Be at peace and NEVER FEAR!! Jesus want peace for us!
     
  4. Ezdra

    Ezdra Angels

    I will not say what I expect, first because this forum is not ready, and second much more important, even if the world leaders ready that event I do not know if someone fanatic wouldn't want to hurt me as before. I wrote enough online, including here.
     
  5. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Archangels

    The announcement of the Antichrist?
     
  6. Ezdra

    Ezdra Angels

    Short answer, No.

    6/6 haha, a joke. But, if we talk of jokes, and why not (did Jesus joke or not?)...still i can't say anything, sorry. What I could say, i already said it in past posts, many of which I deleted myself (no one of the mods did so, thanks).
     
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  7. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I think Jesus most certainly joked and no doubt has a great sense of humor. I hope we all get to experience this one day. I wish that you could say more, I too am curious now because as Child of God did point out it is an interesting coincidence this day and all that might happen. I will certainly be praying and fasting as best I can this day for relief from the pandemic and for the suffering of people even though I have been skeptical about it.
     
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  8. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Archangels

    So will it be a good day or a bad day?
     
  9. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    The pachamama didn't deliver despite the Italian Bishops' prayer, so maybe we'll all be asked to tap into the Hindu god. They have a big festival on 22nd May - Savitri Puja. Imagine what the Jesuits could make of this: http://www.vatsavitripuja.org/importance-of-banyan-tree.html
    It's all there: worshipping a tree containing the essence of three different gods and a prominent role for women. Might not be butch enough for Fr. Martin but it should be worth the odd $billion from the climate change fanatics.
     
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  10. Ezdra

    Ezdra Angels

    but I am not a prophet, we will see, it maybe good for some and bad for others. I expect to be a good day. But if nothing happens... let God's will be done.
     
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  11. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Archangels

    I disagree, the pachamama prayer was answered.... with the plague of locusts in Africa and West Asia.

    Thanks a lot unfaithful bishops!
     
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  12. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Here lies the huge difference.
    St Paul proceeded to proclaim the Truth to those who in their ignorance had been worshiping an 'unknown god'.

    But do you see this happening with PF, who is asking us to pray together with pagans?
    No, most certainly not.
    In fact, PF says the direct opposite - that we should not proselytise! :mad:

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  13. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Archangels

    Who am I to judge?
     
  14. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I don't hold the belief that everyone outside of the Practising Catholic Faith are damned. But i do not support joining with a false religions fake fast that is being proposed to us in lock step with a fake religion. Islam brags about being anti-Christ.
     
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  15. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha


    In case anyone has forgotten what happened with the German bishops' synod working document not too long ago:

    German bishops’ synod working doc calls for approval of contraception, homosexuality, women’s ordination
    The 'synodal path' working doc defended the use of contraception, masturbation, and homosexuality.
    By Martin Bürger
    Wed Jan 29, 2020 - 4:29 pm EST

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    Cardinal Reinhard Marx. Lisa Bourne / LifeSiteNews
    January 29, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – The working documents in preparation for the assemblies of the German bishops’ “Synodal Path” defend the use of contraception, the practice of masturbation, and an active homosexual lifestyle. Additionally, neither the question of the ordination of women nor that of making celibacy optional for priests is taken off the table.

    In 2019, four panels of experts were preparing working documents to serve as the basis for discussion among the participants of the Synodal Path, a process that begins Jan. 30. A careful study of those four documents reveals that the Church in Germany would, in fact, be reinvented, in spite of claims to the contrary made by Cardinal Reinhard Marx.

    (read the rest at:
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/g...-contraceptionhomosexuality-womens-ordination)

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  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    You make some valid and very thoughtful points, and I know I am inclined to the reactionary end of the spectrum and that the Catholic Church is a broad church of sinners (a category from which I make no claim to exclude myself, I assure you). However, I think you are being over-optimistic. We know from Arian times that the situation we fear is not unprecedented (St. John Henry Newman is very good on this), and I think you need to apply your views in the context of what SgCatholic has posted concerning Martin Burger's report from 29th Jan. on the proposals of the German bishops. Perhaps Mr Burger is a fomenter of 'fake news', but if so what are his motives? At least the leftist journalists have an Alynskian Marxist narrative to follow, what of Mr Burger?

    For example, we have certain officials in the Catholic Church proposing that masturbation is an acceptable practice at a time that the World Health Organisation is proposing it be taught to children under four. It's even difficult for me to accept that anyone could make such a horrific, abominable, paedophilic proposal, but the devil is in over-drive these days and one cannot assume that being a bishop or a priest provides immunity against his wiles. Surely, the last few decades have made that perfectly clear to us. This era is one for Hoping for The Best, but also of fearing the worst. It's not enough to just be as innocent as a dove.
     
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  17. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Archangels


    Thank God for Lifesitenews for bringing to light this news
     
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  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I am not surprised at all that some of the German bishops are putting forth such things as acceptable. Look at the condition of Germany since the war. Their people and society have been socially engineered that anything worth actually fighting for is profane, backwards and to be ridiculed. So it is no shocker that they are the disaster we see them in today. Germans are incredible people but they are largely a broken people.
     
  19. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That recent Constitutional Court decision (and by 7-1) to over-rule the ECJ might be an early sign that some are beginning to awaken. German Nationalism (as opposed to National Socialism) isn't dead yet. An upsurge of self-respect among the German people might lead many of them to reject these apostates.
     
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  20. Ezdra

    Ezdra Angels

    First of all, nothing is being accepted, it is a two year process or path of discussion. Discussions occurred also during Vatican II, and many disagreed to have discussions at all. Many wanted Vatican II not to take place at all.

    That doesn't mean I support all the listed sins, however let it be known that some sins in the lists are no more mortal ones since the time of St. John Paul II. Yes I mean masturbation. It is not we the bloggers to determine what is a mortal sin and what is not. It is the pope together with his bishops. As Jesus clearly said to Peter:

    "Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."


    I can say more, but I will opt not to say it. The list of sins did change in history, and Jesus' words do not condemn a list of sins as presented in the catechesis. It is the popes who decide, and that changed in history. Thus, the masturbation entered into the lists of sins much later, to mention one such case (and judge by your own families how that goes, before pretending anything as absolute while it has never been a dogma).

    Let make one very big distinction: the moral sins concern the sexuality. The abortion and those of contraceptions that cause abortion, are sins against the 5th commandment, shedding of innocent blood. There is a huge difference between the two. You may want equally to send to hell a person who commits adultery, homosexual etc., but he has never taken anyone's life.

    The ordination of women is a completely different area of discussion. The last three popes including pope Francis have said that Jesus didn't give the Church the mandate to consecrate women. I hope the German bishops in their majority will obey that unequivocal position. That doesn't include the discussion of the female deacons that already started at the Amazon synod, or hypothetically including the women into the cardinalate that is not a sacrament. So those are very distinctive things. When you see a list with all together, the first reaction is to jump up, to say, "how dreadful and satanic are those bishops to even think of it!" That approach cannot be farther from the truth.

    If the German bishops decide finally after two years discussions something that the pope doesn't agree with, I expect they will obey the pope. That is all I have to say about that dreadful list of sins, that frankly many good standing Catholics practice. Including our girls who receive Holy Communion after taking contraception. Are therefore the German bishops the devil incarnate with horns, the ultimate evil ones in the Church that we should be hunting down at all cost? Aren't there other bishops, the majority, who think at least partially in similar terms? Who appointed us judges? Why is it that we make out of the moral sins the absolute unforgivable evil? We do not have that power. There isn't unforgivable moral sin. The moral sins are the only ones that preoccupy the minds of the conservative catholics (maybe because they do not practice them as much as the others, and in a way they feel they are clean and can accuse the others of being unclean, pretty much the posture of the pharisee in the temple).

    Or we want to wash our hands, after we didn't do our own homework both at home and in parishes in first place? Did we teach our own kids how bad the moral sins are, when they started not coming home the whole nights, and we don't even know what they are doing and with whom? When I enter a US parish, be it in novus ordo or tridentine mass, they do not talk of contraception, even less of other moral sins. They talk of MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Seems the moral sins are not the only ones. Seems the greed has blinded many eyes of consecrated persons and lay persons alike.

    In anyway, it is not we who will judge. If the pope takes a decision against FUTURE decisions of the German synod, and I stress IF, FUTURE DECISIONS, NOT PROPOSALS FOR DISCUSSION, then of course I will obey the pope. Whoever he might be. If it is pope Sarah, I will obey him. If it is pope Marx, I will obey him too. Personally, I think neither of them will make it to papacy, but that is my personal view. Whoever he is, he will be given the grace by the Holy Spirit to define clearly, to bind and loose.

    Maybe a future pope will decide that the above mentioned issues and many others deserve a new Council Vatican III (Or Nicaea III as proposed by pope Francis).

    As of today's Holy father that may reign longer than expected, 5 or more years according to God's will, if he doesn't see today the devil incarnate lurking in Germany, I do not see its horns too.

    I am sorry, but I have more important work to do than answering further posts. Hope May 14 is a good day of prayer!
     
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