Mary McAleese slurs Pope St. John Paul II

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by DeGaulle, Nov 12, 2019.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

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  2. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Pray, pray ,pray!"

    Can anyone explain where this woman actually gets her platform from and who gives it to her, etc? The Irish media?
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  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Most of the Irish media are completely hostile to the Catholic Church, so someone like McAleese is a delight for them to report-an anti-Catholic with prestige.

    I realise now that we were probably too hard on Mary Robinson. She conducted herself with far more reserve and discretion and never involved herself in these kinds of games.
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  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers


    McAleese loves the sound of her own voice!
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Do you ever once in awhile get that eagle view from 10,000 feet where these little self made idols go running around below squeaking gibberish and calling it meaningful or profound or relevant--pick your favorite Newchurch NWO word--as if any of it matters. Perhaps its my age but in the midst of all this oh so serious pontificating I just hear God laugh. We are such little children play acting or making shadow puppets. I think of St Teresa's bookmark: "all things passeth...only God suffices. He who has God has everything."
    Poor Mary McAleese.
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  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    And everything else about herself. A complete narcissist.
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  7. jackzokay

    jackzokay Archangels

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  8. jackzokay

    jackzokay Archangels

    Bang on the money!
    I often wonder though, why?
    Why, in a small (almost former) catholic outpost like ireland have people like McAleese and for that matter - former 'catholic' political parties like Sinn Fein and Fine Gael, Fine Fail, as well as organisations like RTE, why do they oppose tbe faith so vehemently?
    Are they taking money from Soros to push a certain agenda?
    What is it with them??
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  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    RTE was anti-Catholic long before Soros. McAleese probably had deemed herself 'Pope' back in the days of the New Ireland Forum, when ironically she represented the Irish bishops. It's not surprising that a party linked to a terrorist organisation would evolve to embrace other forms of killing, but the transformation of Fine Gael to a radically liberal party has been most spectacular. Fianna Fail may not have transformed as much, but Martin has always been very much a liberal, and good for nothing else-he has had a charmed life, unfortunately.

    I don't think it has been simple bribery. A combination of extreme arrogance and deep stupidity combined with a typically Irish weakness for wanting to be seen on the side that's winning explains it for me. Being 'on the right side of history' would be one of their favourite phrases. Unfortunately for them, they have no idea of the ironic falsity of it.
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  10. jackzokay

    jackzokay Archangels

    Yeah, its too simple to be JUST money-related in some instances. Though Sinn Fein, being relatively new to real politics might well be dazzled by the easy-dough on offer.

    I detest irish politics and Irish politicians. And I've reached a point where i detest what Christmas has become. What marriage ceremonies have become. What Christian rites-of-passage have become. Its all now abhorrent and distasteful to me.
    Poor Ireland.
    This wicked generation has shown two fingers to previous generations of faithful Irish catholics. Ireland has a chastisement coming.
    Our leaders should be tried for treason. The king of heaven wont take the butchering of irish babies in the womb lightly... nor should he.
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  11. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Liberals eat, drink and breath victimhood.

    It's like the old saying, it would be a very bad day if they had nothing to complain about. Complaining is their mission in life. They'd be like beached whales without it.
    If they've nothing to complain about themselves they find some else to complain about.

    Women who can't get killing their babies properly.

    Perverts who can't get perverting.

    People who need body parts chopped off so they can pretend to themselves they've changed thier sex.

    Bad weather that suddenly becomes Global Warming.

    Nothing is too low or too despicable to start them complaining. It is exhausting listening to them.

    But as my mother used to tell us as Children. 'Don't complain or God will give you something to complain about'.

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  12. Roger Buck

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    I think there is both a false spirit of complaining, ranting etc that is unhelpful. So in that sense I agree with you, Padraig.

    But "Jesus wept." Our Lady wept at La Salette etc ... So I think there is also a true spirit of lamentation that is very important.

    It can be tough to discern!
  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Yes, liberals, progressives, socialists, communists have no agenda, but to make sure prosperity and true faith is not the norm. Rules for Radicals has been their play book since Saul Alinski drafted them and had high level clergy, like Cardinal Bernadine and others embrace these tactics to upset and civility in society and in church. Liberals stand for nothing but disruption. They don't want to legislate common sense and prosperity, as they can gain a anarchy when things are good. They are tools of the devil and we are seeing it played out in today's world societies.
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  14. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Well but I like what Winston Churchill once said,

    'Anyone under the age of thirty who is not a Socialist has no heart.

    Anyone over the age of thirty who is a Socialist has no head'.:D:D

    I suppose being young is the time of easy answers to everything.
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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Rules For Radicals was dedicated to Lucifer by Alinski, I have heard.
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Yes, Obama was taught by Saul Alinski tactics. He nearly had his utopia communist agenda in place, had not Trump come along throwing them a curve ball, which in reality has only delayed the one world government, which is their and the Antichrist's objective. Sometimes I have to remind myself of the awesome responsibility we have to keep the faith in these times where Satan is unchained and he will full out enter into the Man of Sin to wage war on the Church of God. We will see events like never before on this earth and above it. Mass, Rosary, Sacraments and Sacramental's are our victory. Knowledge of these times via scripture and the prophets will help in the mind game being played by the Evil One as well.
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