I made the acquaintance of an Anglican priest and his wife in 2006. They had five children ranging in ages 2 to 13 then. They, as parents, often bemoaned denominational matters and USA troubles (-then! in 2006!-) with other young parents. Being childless, I could only sit and supportively listen. This man went on to botch up EVERYTHING. He acted/behaved intentionally while pretending to be a victim of circumstance. I was flabberghasted, wondering how a father of five could be this way. I'd been willing to be a sort of "surrogate aunt" to any/all children of that small parish. Now it's 2020. Four of that priest's five children are now adults. Three are White Straight Males (gadzooks!), like dear old Dad. Later I attended a church with husband. It turned out to be a rather unhappy place. I'd also hoped THERE to be a supportive adult figure. So here I sit, increasingly concerned for these (now) young adults. I wasn't allowed to be part of any of those lives. A lot of GOOD parents in both places, but too many stinkers as well. I think of these young adults who could've used a solid church family support system. They have none (or little). And now "all this" going on. I was raised in a tight-knit church family, very friendly and supportive, people truly "there for" each other...so it just all blew my mind. While I rarely presume upon parenting, I would like to ask the stinker parents: ARE YOU HAPPY??? Were all your games, gossip, and foolish behaviors worth it???