It is Too Late!

Discussion in 'In Memoriam' started by josephite, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. josephite

    josephite Powers

    As you cross the street at night and realise the headlights at your side were not there a moment ago. Well it is too late!

    When sailing out at sea on a glorious red lit sunrise morning you can forget to watch the whether; turning back to sail for shore in waves that tower and winds that roar.
    Again it is too late!

    Knowing a severe and long Blizzard is coming, yet insisting on a personal best and conquering a mountain peak is only realised when descending in the whiteout.
    And then it is too late!

    Are we all blind?

    Accommodating as we, the world, have been of the venomous demands of the overindulged, gorging parasitical parasites that demand the suffering and murder of millions of baby’s, year after year, over the last 20 plus years!: and then we oblige them in an approval of legal recognition of sodomite unions! is there any wonder....

    that it is too late!

    Prayer and fasting cannot save us now from the wrath we have brought on ourselves,! because it is way too late!

    Sincere prayer is just a necessity!

    prayer can now only alleviate the suffering that we the world, must all endure!

    God is Merciful but He is also Just!

    Every knee shall bend and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!

    God Bless us all!
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  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    It is not to late to find and accept God's mercy until after the Warning. It is not to late to do the things heaven has been telling us to do for decades. Especially praying the rosary daily and participate in the first Saturday reparations that our Lady of Fatima requested over 100 years ago. It is not to late to still lessen the chastisements ours sins have wrought. It is not to late to enter into the Divine Will of Jesus as his saints and mystics have appealed to us. God needs his faithful to rise up now more than ever. Not only in sounding the alarm of God's justice, but reaching out to family friends, co-workers and everyone God puts into our lives to hear his messages and revealing his plans through his prophets of today. If all we can do is bring the next sensational message on the demise of the Church, then it is to late. But we must do more. It is time to hear the good news. His era of peace is just around the corner, but we must pray for the true consecration of Russia to take place. This is and has always been the key to his Era of Peace, just as our Lady of Fatima told us over 100 years ago. There is not other plan. This is God's place and it must come to be.
  3. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes He is indeed just. It is a comfort to know this and to understand it because we know that God is the same now as He ever was, now and forever.
    He is merciful, He in fact has shown us so much Mercy it is hard to comprehend the enormity of it. Oceans of mercy. Open to each and every one of us.
    God wants our hearts, he is here telling us to put on the finest garments and to enter the wedding feast. We must accept this invitation, not focusing on our own lack of worthiness but on the Love He has for us and the Grace he grants us. It is His power and Mercy which overcomes all things.
    The trials that come will make many Saints I think. I say this because there will be a great many who will awaken and find themselves on the wrong side of things and will hopefully then choose God and come back to Him. Does this mean that we will not continue to be refined? Surely not. Where great sin abounds grace all the more so.
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  4. padraig

    padraig New Member

    When out walking and you discover you have taken the wrong road, it is true you can turn back. As Isaiah said , Even though your sins be red as scarlet, I will make them white as snow'

    But for communities of cities, nations , the entire world there is a certain impetus or direction that drives them on . An individual can turn on its heel and go back. That is easy. But a large Trailer, a train, an oil tanker cannot turn on their heel. it takes much time. So it is with Nations and the world.

    Ninevah repented it is true, but this was so unusual. The hour grows very,very late for the conversion of entire nations. Besides they have grown so very,very wicked. Once you go so far down a certain road conversion is very,very hard indeed.

    Never in the entire history of the world have Nations become so totally, totally Godless. It is as though they have enthroned Satan in their Capitals.

    Conversion of the Nations? I am not holding my breath.
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  5. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I don't think anyone is holding their breath either. I do think that entire nations can be led by the nose down roads which clearly do not represent the interests or will of the people at large quite easily. Take communism for example. Less than 1% of the Russian people supported it at the time. Yet how did this tiny minority seize control of an entire nation? I have always wondered why God allowed this if the people were truly devout Orthodox Christians.
    In the US revolutionary war less than 3% of the nations population at the time actively supported the effort against the King. Yet, here we are all these years later with a United States and founding fathers.
    My point being that we can be hoodwinked into believing that something is an inevitable result just because we are told it is so by enough people and especially by our authorities. This tactic deceives the mind and spirit and people resign themselves to a kind of tepidness. Like the bull being led to slaughter.
    The world has always used this tactic to control the masses of people who in reality hold all the power but are deceived into believing that they are powerless, isolated, and alone.
    The Truth can change all of this in the blink of an eye. When exposed to the truth it evaporates like the mirage that it is.
    A great many nations leadership have abandoned God, it is true. Does this mean that the people have? Are we honestly being shown all the hardworking families across our various nations who stand for truth and justice or are these things being willfully and intentionally suppressed? What is the goal of this suppression and who gains from it?
    When the harvest time comes are we wheat or tares? Will we be gathered up to the barn of the Master or thrown into the fire?
    So, it is not too late. I don't think that the nations were ever going to be glorified in God's kingdom anyway.
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  6. josephite

    josephite Powers

    It is a good thing that all the deviant behaviour, financial and moral corruption within the church and the world is being exposed.

    However the average individual in society does not care about the implications of this, it’s really just another form of entertainment! Because the world has become cold, by and large the average person is looking after himself, he wants more goodies and as long as he is comfortable he doesn’t care about the one child policy in China, nor about the antics of the Planned Parenthood organisation etc!

    I believe it is too late to think that the world will be spared the chastisement. The hearts of people have grown cold in accommodating all that is evil, because people are too busy looking to fulfil their own personal desires.

    If after the warning there is a great worldwide repentance and conversion, then maybe in this sense it is not too late. But atonement for sin, is a demand of Gods justice! Hence, the reality of purgatory.

    Today with the abominable atrocities occurring daily and the majority of people not living good lives; they don’t go to Mass or to their church on Sundays, they use Our Lords name in vain, have sex before marriage, they divorce and remarry, use contraception, watch pornography, believe homosexual activity and transgenderism is OK! So even if these poor people have been deceived into believing that they are powerless, isolated, and alone this does not give them the right to live lives steeped in sin.

    If we think we are going to be spared the sufferings of the just chastisement that is coming, because we have prayed this is only true in the sense that the Mercy of God through our prayer and fasting [which are necessities] enable us to survive the just horrors that we will all suffer! The good and bad alike are in this together, our neighbours are our brothers and sisters and the good are called to suffer with the bad, in that sense we are the communion of saints
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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Plato and Socrates talked about this long ago in Ancient Greece. Socrates said that , 'The unreflective life is not worth living'. Or on other words if we don't take the time to think about things , what is the point of living? Plato in, 'The Republic speak of the general mass of men being blind and being led by others.

    Prayer and leading a spiritual life has the power to wake us up and force us to think , but in a good way. It forces us to live in and walk in the Truth. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

    People without God all tend to think they are free when all they are is a walking , talking collection of slogans and cliches. Blind sheep as they say, the best they can hope for being the blind, leading the blind.

    Here is a beautiful parable, 'The Blind Men in the Cave' by Plato from, 'The Republic', illustrating this, 400 years before the birth of Christ..

    But Jesus came to give sight to the blind

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  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I thought when Pope Franacis came along and declared the year of Mercy that it was precisely because of what you describe above. The vast multitudes who have been deceived by this world. Make no mistake, they have been deliberately deceived and in the hope that they will never ever see or come to the Truth.

    My point about suffering and the chastisements which come our way is not that anyone can somehow escape them. It is precisely by our embracing them that they are not a chastisement nor a curse. Dare I say that they can be a blessing?
    Paul tells us to rejoice in them, for they are the sharing in the passion of our Lord. To count ourselves blessed if we are weak and to brag on our weaknesses. The world despises this.
  9. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    It is not too late. Remember those arriving late at the vineyard were paid the same as those who laboured the whole day. The potential remains for great sinners to become the very greatest of saints. We want, quite understandably, for evildoers to be punished. However those evildoers may once have been us. God is very patient and desires conversion not destruction. I think we are still in a time of mercy. There is hope. God is permitting great evils, natural and man made, in the hope that more people wake up, repent, turn back to Him. Think of the huge disasters recently, floods, earthquakes, terrorism, atrocious weather bringing home to people their fragility and vulnerability. How many have pondered deeply and been disturbed and unsettled and are groping their way back to the Father? Even those who would see themselves as secular have a sense that things are not quite right in the world. God will permit suffering knowing that it is often through tremendous suffering that people reflect, change course and come back to Him. Think of the prodigal son.

    Only once disaster had struck and he was utterly defeated and humbled did he set out to return to the Father’s house. How long was his journey home? The Father is slow to anger and rich in mercy and desires the salvation of all. Things may grow darker still in the Church and the world but all is not lost. There is still hope. The battle will grow ever more fierce as the enemy will do everything he can to obstruct and derail the Father’s plan. We must expect this. Our part is not to become disheartened or discouraged but to remain faithful, come closer to Jesus and Mary, fight the good fight and trust in God.

    In Eden and ever since the father of lies has worked hard to have us doubt God’s goodness and His desire for our good. No matter what happens we should not believe the enemy. God is good, faithful, the very best of Fathers and has complete and total power. Satan cannot and will not succeed. Just when victory seems assured, God through Mary will crush Satan and snatch that victory right out of Satan’s clutches. What a glorious time to fight for God, His righteousness and His Kingdom.
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  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Excellent response --

    The problem as I see it is so grave because people have come to the position of preferring sin to the truth. Many people are addicted to sins of the flesh as a lifestyle 'choice'.

    Tell a pornographer to give up his pornography or a sexual deviant pervert to give up sex and you will get a thump in the head.

    Pride marches are a prime example of how far from the truth this society has strayed -- so satiated by lust that even if a warning comes and illumination many of these people would still prefer the sins of the flesh to the truth and reject saving grace because they prefer the ways of the flesh. In fact I believe many of them would be angry with God for illuminating their conscience in such a way. Repugnant sinners will always prefer darkness to the light.

    I know this is a pessimistic outlook but really I feel it is true. We have fallen a long, long way!!
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  11. josephite

    josephite Powers

    I am not referring to wayward souls getting to heaven, because included in those wayward souls are people that I care very much about, including my children!

    When I have stated it is too late, I was, and I am, referring to, avoiding the chastisement! It is too late, to avoid the chastisement however, this apparently means different things to different people.

    Our Lady stated at Garabandal in 1961 to 1965 that a chastisement could be avoided if people listened to and acted on her words! When giving the last message at Garabandal she stated that we were receiving the last call to amend our lives and avoid the chastisement.

    In fact over the centuries Our Lady has pleaded with mankind to turn back to God and to avoid the just punishments that God in His justice would send.
    Those who have responded to her words over many centuries have had to live in the increasing filth, crying out for Mercy! God has heard their plea for mercy and has been faithful but now I believe our plea should be for His Justice!

    The reality is we live side by side with rampant fornication, widespread murder of innocent babies, torture of children by paedophiles, blood lust of satanists, despicable acts of sodomite’s, foul pornography and worst of all, its been shoved down our necks for decades, dressed up as sane! by greedy disgusting blood sucking parasitical bullies. Thankfully we are getting to know the reason for the growth of this filth in the world, as the secret sins and the not so secret sins of the church and the world are being revealed!

    I say come Oh Blessed Trinity with your Justice and clean out this sewer! We are also locked in this dark and dingy septic tank with vermin and God is going to take a flame thrower and burn out the vermin.

    Having said the above I stand in humble awe, and in fear and trembling, of Gods almighty wrath! I pray for strength and perseverance. Our prayers are a necessity just to alleviate the suffering that will come.

    Philippians 2: 12-15

    12 So, my dear friends, you have always been obedient; your obedience must not be limited to times when I am present. Now that I am absent it must be more in evidence, so work out your salvation in fear and trembling. 13 It is God who, for his own generous purpose, gives you the intention and the powers to act.

    14 Let your behaviour be free of murmuring and complaining

    15 so that you remain faultless and pure, unspoilt children of God surrounded by a deceitful and underhand brood, shining out among them like bright stars in the world,
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  12. josephite

    josephite Powers

    I agree with you..... We [the human family]have fallen a long, long way!
  13. padraig

    padraig New Member

    There does, it seems to me to be a kind of time bar for the Church and the World to accept Mary's advise and repent..... otherwise. There are strong indications we have passed this point long since:

    That severe chastisements are inevitable and are in fact ongoing.

    Look at the Church for instance ; which has gone into auto destruct. Is acutally eating itself from within.
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  14. josephite

    josephite Powers

    I think we must remember the following and also realise that this was 1973, before the great gravity and number of the sins of abortion, homosexuality, peadophilia, contraception etc


    (1973 - 1981)
    Apparitions Approved – An Urgent Message

    In 1984, just before retiring at a venerable age, the diocesan Bishop of Niigata, Bishop John Shojiro Ito, in consultation with the Holy See, wrote a pastoral letter in which he recognized as being authentically of the Mother of God, the extraordinary series of events that had taken place from 1973 to 1981 in a little lay convent within his diocese, at Akita, Japan. Cardinal Ratzinger, in June 1988, approved the Akita events as "reliable and worthy of belief".

    In fact the Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, in 1998 spoke to Cardinal Ratzinger about Akita and the Cardinal: "personally confirmed to me that these two messages of Fatima and Akita are essentially the same". Hence in Akita we are dealing with a Church approved intervention of the Blessed Virgin Mary as sure in this respect as Lourdes, La Salette, or Fatima.

    Like that of Fatima Our Lady of Akita message, is a specific warning of a worldwide chastisement. The chastisement threatened is truly terrible – far worse than the possibility of annihilation of several nations prophesied at Fatima. Akita is absolutely consistent with prophecies of Scripture.

    1) The first message received by Sister Agnes Katsuko Sasagawa on June 6, 1973, was a call for prayer and sacrifice for the glory of the Father and salvation of souls.

    2) The second message, August 3, 1973, was for prayer, penance and courageous sacrifices to soften the Father's anger.

    3) The third message on October 13, 1973, the actual anniversary of the final visions and miracle of Fatima is as follows: "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    "The demon will rage especially against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will no longer be pardon for them."
  15. I really liked David H.'s post! Thank you. There does seem to be a time frame for people to choose right from wrong before it is too late. Only God knows where we are in the time frame. I ponder something that the seer Mirjana has said. She said that for one of the secrets (I think secret #7) it was serious and after she heard of it, she asked family, friends, and other people of faith to pray and do penance for the severity of the 'secret' to be lessened. After a time, the Virgin said that their prayers had resulted in the lessening of that secret. Then the Virgin told her the last secrets (8, 9, and 10) were unchangeable because God's Will must be done. My thought is that those last secrets may be Biblical prophecies and therefore unchangeable.
  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

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  17. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I clicked on this thread thinking it must be about poor Mr Stephen Hawkins, the man who spent most of his life in a wheelchair using mechanical means to communicate. Not to mention the love and support of those who loved him for his very survival until his recent death. God have mercy.

    He was hailed as having an amazing scientific mind, and no doubt he had. But the poor soul must have gone literally from the frying pan (wheelchair) straight into the fire (of hell).

    It is alright saying God is merciful and we don't know; for between the saddle and the ground is mercy to be found.

    But how can anyone argue. This man was very well read, and capable of reading the Bible Old and New, where God has gone to great lengths to reveal to us the seriousness of believing what we need to know, making an effort for our own sake, if we are hoping to stay out of the pit of hell.

    There is the story of that man in the Old Testament who went to hell, and begged for so much as a drop of water to quench his thirst. He was told he had the Law and the Prophets while he was on earth and he choose to ignore them, now he would be in hell for all eternity.

    When you think Lucifer was the brightest of the Angels, which surely means most intellectually gifted, and he choose hell rather than humble himself before God. How many intellectually gifted people do we see today, who are as stubborn as satan, like poor Mr Hawkins, and will sadly end up in the same place as the arrogant satan, whose obstinate refusal to bow before God led him to the pit of hell for all eternity.

    You might be tempted to say, another one bites the dust; but of course it should be bites the worm that does not die in the eternal flame that does not burn out in an eternity of pain and hate and torment and terror. I remember Howard Storm saying when he was allowed to experience hell, he knew he was with like minded people, and when he came back his atheistic beliefs were gone forever. He was converted by his experience. Poor Mr Hawkins should have listened to the numerous highly intellectual souls who have been allowed an experience of the afterlife, and saved his sorry soul. I do hope and pray he was converted before he took his last breadth. He suffered all his life and made the most of his sorry situation. Poor soul. I hope the devil has not got him. God have mercy on his soul.
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