Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, Jun 20, 2014.
That thought crossed my mind as well.
It's still early in the month yet.
It's good to see someone putting their money on the button.
I like that.
The Warning will not take place till "things are at their worst" as stated at Garabandal and we are not at this moment yet. I am not saying the world won't collapse by 3/18/18, but its not looking like it at this time.
Byron, I have a letter from Father Roux, who after reading the book God Speaks Will You Listen, was very favorable towards it, saying he found nothing in the book contrary to the faith and was most pleased to see numerous scriptural quotes to explain the prophecy given, which he said was most comforting.
The Warning will take place between 2026 and 2034.
If it does not happen then it will take place after 2050. In my opinion the date of the Warning can be delayed because God can do everything.
What is also interesting about March 25th besides being the Feast of the Annunciation, the following all have occurred on March 25th of various years as stated:
1. On March 25th, 1945 the first apparition of Our Lady of All Nations appeared to Ida Peerdeman in the Netherlands.
2. On March 25th, 1984 Pope Saint John Paul II performed the consecration of all individuals and peoples of the world in union with the bishops of the world.*
3. On March 25th, 1987 Pope Saint John Paul II spoke of Our Lady in his encyclical Redemptoris Mater.
4. On March 25th, 1995 Pope Saint John Paul II spoke of Our Lady in his encyclical Evangelium Vitae.
From Redemptoris Mater the following reminds me of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Our Lady,
In the salvific design of the Most Holy Trinity, the mystery of the Incarnation constitutes the superabundant fulfillment of the promise made by God to man after original sin, after that first sin whose effects oppress the whole earthly history of man (cf. Gen. 3:15). And so, there comes into the world a Son, "the seed of the woman" who will crush the evil of sin in its very origins: "he will crush the head of the serpent." As we see from the words of the Protogospel, the victory of the woman's Son will not take place without a hard struggle, a struggle that is to extend through the whole of human history. The "enmity," foretold at the beginning, is confirmed in the Apocalypse (the book of the final events of the Church and the world), in which there recurs the sign of the "woman," this time "clothed with the sun" (Rev. 12:1).
Mary, Mother of the Incarnate Word, is placed at the very center of that enmity, that struggle which accompanies the history of humanity on earth and the history of salvation itself. In this central place, she who belongs to the "weak and poor of the Lord" bears in herself, like no other member of the human race, that "glory of grace" which the Father "has bestowed on us in his beloved Son," and this grace determines the extraordinary greatness and beauty of her whole being. Mary thus remains before God, and also before the whole of humanity, as the unchangeable and inviolable sign of God's election, spoken of in Paul's letter: "in Christ...he chose us...before the foundation of the world,...he destined us...to be his sons" (Eph. 1:4, 5). This election is more powerful than any experience of evil and sin, than all that "enmity" which marks the history of man. In this history Mary remains a sign of sure hope.
Thanks to this special bond linking the Mother of Christ with the Church, there is further clarified the mystery of that "woman" who, from the first chapters of the Book of Genesis until the Book of Revelation, accompanies the revelation of God's salvific plan for humanity. For Mary, present in the Church as the Mother of the Redeemer, takes part, as a mother, in that monumental struggle; against the powers of darkness"138 which continues throughout human history. And by her ecclesial identification as the "woman clothed with the sun" (Rev. 12:1),139 it can be said that "in the Most Holy Virgin the Church has already reached that perfection whereby she exists without spot or wrinkle." Hence, as Christians raise their eyes with faith to Mary in the course of their earthly pilgrimage, they "strive to increase in holiness."140 Mary, the exalted Daughter of Sion, helps all her children, wherever they may be and whatever their condition, to find in Christ the path to the Father's house.
And from Evangelium Vitae the following also reminds me of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Our Lady,
"A great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun" (Rev 12:1): the motherhood of Mary and of the Church
103. The mutual relationship between the mystery of the Church and Mary appears clearly in the "great portent" described in the Book of Rev- elation: "A great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars" (12:1). In this sign the Church recognizes an image of her own mystery: present in history, she knows that she transcends history, inasmuch as she constitutes on earth the "seed and beginning" of the Kingdom of God. 139 The Church sees this mystery fulfilled in complete and exemplary fashion in Mary. She is the woman of glory in whom God's plan could be carried out with supreme perfection.
So, we will know soon enough if this year is the year of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and if something occurs before this Palm Sunday on March 25th which will redirect the world.
Oh Fatima that is wonderful! How can I get a hold of Fr Roux?
Byron, I don't know. The letter I have came from him when he was a head of the MMP and has since resigned that position.
Based on what data? Conchita is 69 and will be well into her 80's by your dating. I for one leave dates alone. I rather look at the signs of the times that credible messengers have provided. At the speed of the apostasy within the Church I feel the God's angles will exact his commandment within the 7 seals at any moment. At any rate we cannot, not be prepared as we have had much time to do as much. The most important part is to get in or remain in the state of sanctifying grace and enter more deeply into living in the Divine Will.
According to Conchita's estimation on the 4 Pope's, this is the Pope who will be around for the Warning. So I'm hopeful the Warning arrives sooner than 12 or 20 years.
Fatima does God Speaks Will You Listen give any clues to when it might be coming?
All these dates assume that Garabandal is 100% legit. I tend to believe, but there is enough reason to have doubt that we cannot know for sure. I agree, live every day like today is the day because, for any of us, it could be... but as most on this board know, I love the mock the date game. I get to play it on average of about 4-5 times a year over the last 4 years. So far none have been right. BTW... I ended up here ON this wonderful group because of a false date that i believed... so they are not all bad
Byron, GSWYL gives no dates, but many references to the warning any other prophetic events to take place. You can put the word Warning (or any other word like miracle, era of peace, the false prophet, antichrist, etc..) into the 'search document' of the link to the book at this site and it will bring up every reference to the Warning and there are many https://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen
On more important thing. When you open up this web site you will see a picture of God the Father. This is from a vision that was given to Cletus in 1956. He said nothing about this image or any of his messages for 45 years. Then God told him it was time. He had this picture painted http://godspeakswillyoulisten.org/id1.html and blessed by a holy priest and the first person who looked at it and prayed to God was cured then and there. Cletus healed 1000's of people from illnesses. This picture in ones home will provide healings and protection and suggest printing it out and praying to God the Father for all of ones needs, as Verne said its blessings carrying on to all who look upon its image. The books that Cletus had printed with the money he inhereted from his grandmother was spent on having this book produced. 20,000 copies at $1 a piece. The books were not to be sold as all of them were blessed by a priest (I see there are a few for sale on Amazon). Most were sent to known refuges around the country in boxes of 60 and not to be opened until after the warning as an instruction manual for that time in preparation for entering the Era of Peace in the Divine Will.
I'm hoping to be the first to start a "How is your illumination of conscience going?" thread during it.
Is it my imagination or does God the Father in the allegedly miraculous painting look exactly like Cletus?
There is surely some resemblance. Accept Cletus is bald on the top
Here is Cletus story:
A Story of Cletus Schefers
I was born and lived on a farm west of Minneapolis, Minnesota. I am the oldest of 7 children. I went to a one-room schoolhouse that had all 8 grades, 26 children were in the classroom. I talked mostly German at home and for one hour in school. I would walk in the fields and look at the plants, and wondered how God made them and made them grow. I also wondered how God could help me make them grow better, and how to stop weeds from growing. When I turned 19, my dad had me get a job off the farm. At that time, my brothers were able to help my dad on the farm.
In August of 1956, while sitting on my bed looking out the window, I saw the clouds open up. There sat God the Creator, holding a staff in his right hand, and his left hand raised up in the air. I did not know what this all was. I could not talk about it. For many, many, many years, I would think of this vision, and what I should do with it. But life went on.
I was a mechanic for 19 years. After that, I operated heavy equipment until I retired at 62. I was married in 1960 and have 4 children. I am still married.
In February 1983, I wanted to find out more about God. How can I find this answer? I looked and looked for 4 years. I could not read or write. I was told by people to ask Jesus's mother, and to ask St. Jude. I did not know how to ask St. Jude. I asked for wisdom, because it sounded good. I prayed to God and asked St. Jude to pray for me. In less than one year, I could read, but not as other people read. Then I could not get enough to read. God guided me as to what books I should read. About 1990 or so, God infused the Bible in me. He gave it to me little by little, for a number of years. I could not remember what he gave me. I don't know what I know, but God brings the words out of my mouth when they are needed. He calls me his megaphone.
I had 3 healings from God. The first time it was 2 ribs, then the right leg, and the last time was the left knee. In September 2001, the Lord asked me to let my hair and beard grow. I have yet to cut my hair or beard, except at my upper lip. Now it has passed the 5-year mark, and my hair seems to stay shoulder length, and not get any longer. Long hair was a Nazarene tradition, which is what Jesus and Sampson were.
In November 2001, the Lord told me I could reveal my vision (after 45 years). In May of 1993, the first time I prayed with someone, God healed that person. Now, 13 years later, the Lord has healed a lot of people physically, and spiritually. All I do for them is to pray for them.
The vision picture was painted on March 3, 2006. It was blessed by a faithful priest.
Every day of March 2018. Then else dates of the Warning are not able to be predicted.
- If the prophecy about 25th day is literal, the Warning could be 25th Adar (Jer 52,31; Gen 7,24 after 100th anniversary), or 25th March (the day of olive branchs)... but it could be every day before second full moon (the dream of Don Bosco).
Then the first closest possible year with two ful moons in May is 2026. But the Miracle should be in April not in May. And the life of pope Benedict in 2026 is questionable.
I believe it will definitely occur in the month of March and this appears to be the year for many reasons. I think it will happen in the days preceding March 25th.
May God bless Pope Benedict.
Thank you so much Fatima. I'll look into it.
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