Is America Collapsing?

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by padraig, Jan 15, 2021.

  1. DesertStar7

    DesertStar7 To Jesus + through Mary @-}--

    "CEO of Parler John Matze goes into hiding with his family due to serious death threats."

    Lots of people currently in terrible danger, as we know. :(
     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

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  3. andree

    andree Archangels

    So many posts on this thread, I can't keep up! Did someone answer you Don?

    I'm no expert on this by any means, but I've understood that this subject has biblical roots and is related to France as "the eldest daughter" since her kings were somehow in David's lineage. There is a pope who said eons ago that the tribe of Judah was the figure of France. And there have been several prophecies about the return of the Great Monarch (eg. MJ Jahenny) There are also a few people living now who have been receiving locutions about the return of the Monarch, but I haven't paid much attention to them since I don't feel a call to delve into this subject. Trads are very much into this subject and would love to see France return to the rule of a great King.
     
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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Ven Bartholomew Holzhouszer (spell?) received prophecies about this. The understanding is that after the Minor Tribulation, which some think we are in now, a Holy Pope and a Great Monarch will arise.
     
  5. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    I have read similar.
     
  6. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    my sentiments too Joan.....
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    It's hard for an outsider to really appreciate how bad things have gotten in the USA and in the Church out there.

    Listening to this really brought it home.

    It's truly Fratricidal. Brother against Brother, Sister against Sister. There really seem to be two Churches emerging. The False one and the Remnant. With the election of Rosary Beads always on hand, Joe Biden, the false one appears to be going for the throat of the Remnant.

    Scary stuff/

     
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  8. padraig

    padraig New Member

  9. WTW

    WTW Archangels

    I have a tough time getting past the first few minutes of the video. There are enough people pushing the left’s narrative on the Jan 6th protest and it was disappointing to see the same in this video. We know that it was not only Trump supporters in the crowd and that there were many aspects to make it seem like a coordinated effort to make Trump and his supporters look bad. Frustrating to see those who should be fighting the lies go with it.
     
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  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes, HeavenlyHosts posted a link and I did some more research as well. I am not unfamiliar with it but have always wondered about it's origin. It seems to be one of those things that was spoken of by many different people. I do find it interesting given the role of the nobility in the church both as laity and prelate, and their role in fighting the changes of VII plus it certainly fits with the trad crowd. Sedes I have spoken with are very big on it as well.
     
  11. padraig

    padraig New Member

    There was a funny story I read about Benjamin Franklin when he was first American Ambassador to England.

    He was staying in a Lord's Estate and to tease him they placed a portrait of George Washington in the toilet chamber. When he came out they asked Ben what he thought of the Decor? Mr Franklin replied that it was a good idea placing a portrait of Washington there as he had a long history of making the English s**ting themselves.:)
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Fr Mark is a wonderful holy young priest and I could listen to him all day.

    But Scott Hahn is a Spiritual and intellectual giant, way up there with the likes of G K Chesterton. A walking, living breathing Bible. So when he speaks I pay close attention.

    Did you notice in the interview Fr Mark pressed him quite hard on what the best form of Government and how Scott Hahn replied. His reply seemed to me very like that of Jesus when pressed on paying tax to Caesar. Render into Caesar that which is Caesar's. This kind of response might appear evasive but actually it points to higher truths. So I loved the way Scott answered, so scriptural.

    I must watch this again this morning.
     
  13. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Do you notice the way people like Fr Mark and Scott Hahn always have smiles on their faces?:):):)
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig New Member

    It is possible that Catholic Mystical Prophecy has close links to a bed rock of centuries of Catholic Culture. The USA is basically a modern Protestant/ Secular State so that might limit things a little.

    If I were to look for authentic Catholic American Prophesy I think I would look firstly in those regions of highest Catholic migration. Inf act if you look at American Mystics this is generally were you find them.
     
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  15. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    The United States has done so much good in the world . . . I don't think God will desert us. There have been many American martyrs who have shed their blood for this country . . .our very motto is "In God We Trust", and is stamped on our coins. Right now we are having growing pains, trying to learn how to use the new technology of computers and instant gratification, fake news and contrived "truth". We will get through this, with God's help. And God is full of surprises . . .


     
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  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Reading Catholic Prophesy I would not underestimate the gravity of the events that are upon us. Our World will never be the same again. None of us are going back to a world we once considered as, 'Normal'.
     
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  17. DesertStar7

    DesertStar7 To Jesus + through Mary @-}--

    But our Heavenly Father never changes, thankfully.

    When younger, I got sucked into what today would be called "progressive-ism." My fundamentalist Protestant parents were very strict and unrealistic. They'd hammer sister and I over trivialities, behave as though we were terrible kids always in need of monitoring.

    So I came to dislike this notion of "God never changes," because I wanted change! In hindsight, I simply wanted to be treated fairly and be loved.

    But now I fully understand the value of "God never changes." And what a relief that is!
     
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  18. WTW

    WTW Archangels

    Really good point. As much as I’m praying for a miracle to keep Trump in office the fact is that even if that does happen it doesn’t mean things will magically be better. The country will still be divided and tensions will probably be higher than ever.
     
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  19. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    Dr. Ralph Martin was among those who started the Charismatic Renewal in the US. He is currently a seminary teacher and author. When I read about prophecy and the US, I always think of Martin's 1975 prophecies. They were given at the International Catholic Charismatic Renewal Conference at the Basilica at St. Peter’s in Rome:

    Because I love you, I want to show you what I am doing in the world today. I want to prepare you for what is to come. Days of darkness are coming on the world, days of tribulation. . . . Buildings that are now standing will not be standing. Supports that are there for my people now will not be there. I want you to be prepared, my people, to know only Me and to cleave to Me and to have Me in a way deeper than ever before. I will lead you into the desert. . . . I will strip you of everything that you are depending on now, so you depend just on Me. A time of darkness is coming on the world, but a time of glory is coming for my Church, a time of glory is coming for my people. I will pour out on you all the gifts of my Spirit. I will prepare you for spiritual combat; I will prepare you for a time of evangelism that the world has never seen. . . . And when you have nothing but Me, you will have everything: land, fields, homes, and brothers and sisters and love and joy and peace more than ever before. Be ready, my people, I want to prepare you.

    "I speak to you of the dawn of a 'new age' for My church. I speak to you of a day that has not been seen before...Prepare yourselves for the action that I begin now, because things that you see around you will change; the combat that you must enter now is different; it is new. You need wisdom from Me that you do not yet have."

    "You need the power of my Holy Spirit in a way that you have not possessed it; you need an understanding of My will and of the ways that I work that you do not yet have. Open your eyes, open your hearts to prepare yourselves for Me and for the day that I have now begun. My church will be different; My people will be different; difficulties and trials will come upon you. The comfort that you know now will be far from you, but the comfort that you will have is the comfort of My Holy Spirit. They will send for you, to take your life, but I will support you. Come to Me. Band yourselves together, around Me. Prepare, for I proclaim a new day, a day of victory and of triumph for your God. Behold, It is begun."

    "...I will renew my Church. I will renew my people. I will make My people one. I am calling you to turn away from the pleasure of the world. I am calling you to turn away from seeking the approval of the world in your lives. I want to transform your lives...I have word for My church. I am sounding My call. I am forming a mighty army...My power is upon them. They will follow My chosen shepherd(s)..."

    "Be the shepherds I have called you to be...I am renewing My church. I will free the world."

    "Know that I, your God, brought Peter and Paul to Rome to witness to My glory. I have chosen you also and have brought you to Rome to bear witness to My glory, confirmed now by your shepherd. Go forth to the healing of the nations. Know that I am with you; and though you may pass through tribulation and trial, I will be with you even to the end. I am preparing a place for you in glory. Look to Me and I will deliver you from the power of the evil one. Behold I am with you now, all days, even till the end of time.

    "...You have know the truth these days. You have experienced the truth these days. It is clear to you at this moment what the truth is. It is the truth of My kingdom, My kingdom that will prevail...I want you to take that truth, to rest in that truth, to believe in that truth, not to compromise it, not to lose it in confusions, not to be timid about it, but to stand simply, in love, firmly rooted in the truth as foundation stones upon which My church can have new life and new power."
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  20. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    It has never been 'normal' . . .every decade brings something new and different. Some good things, some bad things. I can remember my mother would always say "When are things going to get back to normal?" . They never did. Every generation will have it's own set of problems. If you study history, it does repeat itself. Just wondering what phase we are in now. But I have learned that the best things are worth fighting for, even if the fight is just persistent prayer. Persevere! Keep the Faith.



     

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