Ireland has fallen

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by AidanK, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Numerous references to Pope Francis but no mention whatsoever of God. Not God the Father. Not God the Son. And not God the Holy Spirit. Other than a couple of Scriptural references in the literature, any atheist humanist could have made that video and, presumably, devised the programme it was promoting. I suppose they are relying on secular teachers and equally badly catechised parents to teach the children that the ultimate goal is everlasting life with God in Heaven. Perhaps there are other aspects to the preparation for Confirmation centred on the Creator rather than the created. We can but hope but I suspect that in about 20 years' time the same people will be blaming all and sundry for Confirmation day having been the last time most of the children will have set foot inside a Church other than for weddings and funerals.
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    You're very welcome.

    When I was young I used to think that the words, 'Mourning and weeping in this valley of tears', were a bit over the top. Now looking back on it I realise they were not over the top at all. :):);)

    On the other hand nothing at all can compare with the Joy of Loving God. :) Nothing.
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  3. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    "I will purify and renew My Church in Ireland, but first I require of all My priests there a conversion of life and a return to sincere heartfelt prayer daily in the presence of My Sacrament of love. "I want My priests to go in pilgrimage to Knock. There My Mother waits for them. There abundant graces will be given to them." Let My priests in Ireland go to the feet of My Immaculate Mother at Knock." (In Sinu Jesu, pg. 157)
  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Powerful message.

    Knock is an oasis of grace in Ireland.
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Your in my Chaplet of Divine Mercy, today, AED! Remember, Jesus is yoked with you down in the trough!:D

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
  6. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Its much easier to feel close to God in Knock than in many places, I pray that this message reaches all priests in Ireland.
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Courtesy of All-Ireland Rally for Life (Credit: S McElligott Photography)

    UN says Northern Ireland’s pro-life laws are ‘violence against women’

    GENEVA, February 23, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – The U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) said today that Northern Ireland is violating women’s rights by restricting their access to abortion.

    Unique among the nations that make up the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland allows abortion only when the mother’s life or health is endangered by her pregnancy. As a result, abortion in Northern Ireland is rare. In 2016/17, only 13 abortions were carried out in the country.

    “Denial of abortion and criminalisation of abortion amounts to discrimination against women because it is a denial of a service that only women need. And it puts women in horrific situations,” stated CEDAW spokeswoman Ruth Halperin-Kaddari.

    She claimed that Northern Ireland’s pro-life stance “constitutes violence against women that may amount to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.”

    The government of the United Kingdom denied the charges, indicating that women of Northern Ireland have access to abortion in the rest of the UK.

    The UN report recommended decriminalization of abortion in Northern Ireland, making contraception available, downplaying women’s primary role as mothers, and cracking down on public pro-life witness.

    The BBC is reporting that the U.N. committee is comprised of 23 international “experts on women’s rights.”

    In its coverage, it quoted Grainne Teggart of Amnesty International, who is calling on the British Parliament at Westminster to further liberalize abortion laws.

    “The U.N. Committee is very clear that it is the UK government which is responsible for ensuring that our laws are in line with the state’s international human rights obligations,” she said. “Devolution--even if functioning--does not relieve the UK government of their responsibility to uphold human rights in Northern Ireland.”

    Devolution refers to the limited self-rule of the different nations within Great Britain. Both Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own governing bodies, and certain ministries, like Northern Ireland’s Department of Health, are devolved, or the responsibility, of these assemblies.

    There have been challenges to Northern Ireland’s restrictive abortion law, from both within and without the nation.

    In 2015, a High Court Judge ruled that it violated the European Convention on Human rights by not allowing abortions of babies with fatal disabilities or who were conceived as a result of sexual crimes. However, in 2016, the Northern Ireland Assembly voted against liberalizing the law to permit the killing of these babies. In 2017, both However, both UK Parliament and the Scottish government have pledged to pay the costs associated with abortions for Northern Irish women who travel to England or Scotland to procure them.

    Seven hundred women reportedly travel from Northern Ireland to Britain every year for abortions. However, these statistics are open to interpretation. Asked in Scottish Parliament in 2017 about the number of abortions performed on Irish women in Scotland, the Health Minister replied, "The total number of legal abortions performed in Scotland on women who are normally resident in the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland during the period 2013 to 2015 was five."

    The Department of Health for England and Wales states that 190,406 abortions were performed in those nations in 2016. In Scotland, there were 12,063.
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

  9. AidanK

    AidanK A great sinner

    The faith in Ireland is under attack as is indicated by the huge decline in number of true Catholics. I believe however that though we are small in number , we faithful Catholics are the remnant of Christs church which will keep the faith alive and vibrant in Ireland. Like the early Irish evangelists , we can help the faith to grow by our prayer , fasting, reception of sacraments, implementation of Catholic social teaching. By leading truly Catholic lives we will help our Irish brethren to find their way back to Jesus. Vivat Christus Rex
  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Wow! It's all about Pope Francis and his AL! And his earth stuff!
    Where is the catechism? The REAL Catholic Catechism?
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  11. AidanK

    AidanK A great sinner

    Where is there mention of receiving the Holy Spirit, Sacrament, renewal of baptismal vows, promises to be made ? This video is New Age stuff , totally non Catholic. A hippy " love in " Clear evidence of Francis' way of doing things
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2018
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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Yes, it's all about Pope Francis and Amoris Laetitia. There was a collection at today's Mass for the World Meeting of Families. Then some man gave a talk about it. They want volunteers to help with the stewarding and to provide accommodation.

    The Eucharist Congress was held here a couple of years ago. It wasn't nearly as well promoted in our parishes. In fact, it was hardly promoted at all. I came across a video yesterday of an interview with the lady managing the arrangements for the WMOF. The interview seemed to have taken place in the early stages of the planning. That lady looked very pleased to say that bookings for the WMOF were about double those for the Eucharist Congress at the same stage of the preparations. Perhaps Pope Francis is more popular than Jesus in Ireland? Perhaps Pope Francis is promoted more than Jesus in Ireland? That's the impression I get, but perhaps I'm biased.
  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Judging from that video, it seems that way
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Not all of Ireland has fallen when there are still people here like those of the Life Institute, dedicatedly working to stop the introduction of abortion. They have begun to turn the tide, according to the polls, and, with the help of God, will succeed.

    Nevertheless, there has been a horrifying decline in just a few decades, picking up speed since the nineties.
  15. AidanK

    AidanK A great sinner

    Thanks Padraig. How prophetic is this !?!?
  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    In fairness, we shouldn't ignore the likelihood that what was shown in the video is only one part of the preparation for Confirmation. We can hope and pray that God gets at least equal billing with the Pope in the parts not dedicated to the World Meeting of Families.

    Apart from the apparent replacement of God with Pope Francis, what struck me was the piece about the gift of good works which they are compiling for presentation to the Pope. Here's what he had to say about traditionalist Catholics who held a Rosary crusade for him:

    I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council... One feels in 1940... An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries." Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting... And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through - not you, because you are not old - to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today...
    There's no doubt in my mind that every minute detail surrounding a possible Papal presence at the WMOF is being co-ordinated with the Vatican. If counting prayers is a symptom of Pelagianism, wouldn't counting good works be another, similar, symptom? I can understand a gift of prayer, letting Pope Francis know that a lot of people had taken the time to pray for the Blessed Mother's intercession on his behalf. I don't understand the point of giving to the Pope the gift of a list of acts of charity done by and for people other than himself.
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  17. CrewDog

    CrewDog Archangels

    It is PROPHETIC!! It is quite simply hard to believe that it was 53 YEARS ago that Paul Harvey spoke this on his Noon Radio show ..... that my parents listened faithly every weekday! I was just a mid-teenager, Vietnam was just starting to become Nightly News and Vatican II had not yet been Hi-Jacked by The Usual Suspects ......... and the Middle East was somewhere "Over-There" where our Oil came from .... but we are talking about two Human Generations ago .... what will another Human Generation bring us without The Lord's Intervention....!!!??? :(

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  18. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.
  19. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes it is and conversations are very heavily moderated and controlled there. This is why it seems there are so many who are for abortion and so few against. Don't fall for it.

    Here is an example of how Twitter is manipulating the posts of people and in turn giving the appearance that there is little hope for anyone voicing opposition.
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  20. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Jesus I trust in you!"

    For some reason I get a sense lately that the days of materialism in Ireland are coming to an end and renewal is on the way.
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