In Catholic Italy, ‘de-baptism’ is gaining popularity

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  1. indaiatubano

    indaiatubano Principalities

  2. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Shame on them - apostates.
     
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  3. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    This is terrible. May God have mercy on their souls.
     
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  4. Mario

    Mario Powers

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  5. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I made that mistake too. :cry:
     
  6. DesertStar7

    DesertStar7 To Jesus + through Mary @-}---

  7. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I can’t like this post because it is so incredibly sad. Although they may be making a move to technically / formally remove themselves as members of the church, baptism is a indelible mark on their soul forever that cannot be undone if I understand it correctly. If not, please correct me.
    These are mostly souls who I believe were deeply hurt in life and blame the faith/God for their pain. They are trying to hit back. That is why they would even go to the trouble to formalize it….it’s based out of anger. Others who have no faith generally just don’t care and walk away. They don’t care enough to bother formalizing it because it’s meaningless to them.

    They need prayer…their souls are endangered. Only God knows and only God judges.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Satanists do this as a first step to membership. You step or spit on the Cross as a Sign of Renunciation of your Faith.

    This is a very ancient Satanic practice. You can for instance trace it back to the Emperor Julian the Apostate ..a Christian who after renouncing his former Faith conducted the mass murder of Christians with great vigour throughout the Empire..

    Its the same thing with the Black Mass it started out in Ancient Rome.

    plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

    Things change and things remain the same.

    Bottom line.

    Satanic.

     
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  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes, Padraig, I believe you are right. Satanist would want this too.
     
  10. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Archangels

    if something is so vehemently attacked by the devil it is because it certainly has a divine origin, that is the attacks on the regenerating sacrament of baptism and the holy Eucharist, it is something that should serve as an example for Protestant religions that deny the importance of both sacraments for salvation
     
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  11. andree

    andree Powers

    That's what I understand too. If it weren't a permanent mark, that would mean that God could change His mind (or covenant) and in that case, would be as fickle as man! I guess the exception could be in the case of an annulment? Because it's an official cancellation by the Church perhaps the mark disappears? I have read about mystics who have seen certain people in hell and they can see those who were baptised, priests and other consecrated souls from the mark on their soul.

    Speaking of baptism, I saw this article - what strange times we are in!

    https://aleteia.org/2021/11/17/prin...ter-from-the-river-jordan-for-royal-baptisms/
     
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  12. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I almost feel guilty. When Fr. Francis became our new pastor 2 months ago, he delegated to me the ministry of baptisms. I did one today and will add another on Sunday (not during Holy Mass). It's such a joy to speak the precious words, to pour the water, to know that the evil one must flee. Even the "family congregation" seems more open to being challenged (for the sake of the child) to draw closer to God in order to set a good example. I always include a testimony of a child saint to remind parents that their child can be holy, too! And Geralyn is there holding the precious oils while I anoint the babe. At the end, she always makes a pitch that the baptismal candle not be packed away and forgotten, but that each baptismal anniversary it be brought out as the child renews the vows her parents first pledged at their little one's entry into the Kingdom. Do you renounce Satan? I do! Allelu-ia!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+baby+being+baptized&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=G6lgTZP71Q48EM%2CsY4LSwMHL6WXZM%2C_%3BQGvAOH4TyRw2XM%2CwbW-Hd3rAj6hfM%2C_%3B0KU0KDjoHDrBXM%2Ck9x8OUPtAIythM%2C_%3BvIiZaMGGwEklLM%2Ck9x8OUPtAIythM%2C_%3Bx1VTHmNHme1v4M%2C24W4Seq_6CFgUM%2C_%3BDnxLNCmDhlLrmM%2ChVRaD8T97Bf2sM%2C_%3B3y0MG1HXiD4L3M%2Cej6U1UHT68dF_M%2C_%3BexFBFE3yZA0S-M%2CO0brgJqUeFIzAM%2C_%3BKXNrnTNy4keS2M%2Ck9x8OUPtAIythM%2C_%3BI9gkkvw-F6_t2M%2CEB-Al-gvCnRz0M%2C_%3BJTjs8MM9mx6Q6M%2Ck9x8OUPtAIythM%2C_%3Bpg9Ff_0HOnElBM%2Cfxy8nhSIRzKROM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQm3CLhiKcTqa4O_gwZzBPtusP0lQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjii7_QxqX0AhUipXIEHVJ3Dz4Q9QF6BAgSEAE#imgrc=DnxLNCmDhlLrmM
     
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  13. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Beautiful that Geralyn reminds them to renew the baptismal vows with the candle. So funny, because just yesterday, I took my two grown sons baptism candles out in preparation to burn while I pray the vows of their baptism in proxy for them….praying to God to restore their faith. It was recommended by a dear friend and so I’ll try it.
     
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  14. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Great! It infuriates the enemy! And Our Lady is so blessed! And an arrow of grace embeds itself into the hearts of your sons! After all, this Sunday is the Feast of Christ the King. May your sons soon return to that Holy Realm!:D:coffee:
     
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  15. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Thank you Terry…please pray for them…. Your post was a good confirmation of my intention to do this.
     
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  16. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I have and I will. Geralyn will join me. Actually these baptisms are timely placed, a joy in the midst of my present exclusion from chaplaincy ministry, due to my being one of those "nasty" anti-vaccers!

    When difficulties arise grace abounds!

    Thanks be to the Two Hearts!
     
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  17. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

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    Thank you so very much….( you might find a whole new ministry in conversion prayer).
     
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  18. Shae

    Shae Archangels

    It pains me so, that my son does not intend to baptize his baby. This is my very first grandchild. I pray everyday for this grace for him.
     
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  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Prayers. I became a grandfather last year for the first time and it has brought great joy. I will pray too for your intentions.
     
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  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh Shae I know so well what you are feeling and praying for. I have 2 beautiful grandchildren who are not baptized. No intention to do so. Its a heartbreak.
     
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