God thru Julie Whedbee URGENT LETTER

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by jnice :), May 12, 2015.

  1. Scolaire Bocht

    Scolaire Bocht Archangels

    I don't know anything else about this seer but those messages do sound authentic. I guess it is a huge oecumenical gesture if Our Lord gives these messages to Protestants (and if Vassula Ryden is authentic then its also true of some Orthodox) but at the same time these communications are drawing a quiet line in the sand here.

    By emphasising the importance of Mary, the Pope and the Eucharist (and St John Bosco would have certainly understood the latter as the body and blood of Our Lord) He is of course highlighting the very points that many Protestants disagree strongly with. So I guess the overall story is that at a human level people should happily welcome Protestants as part of the Christian family but don't mistake that for a willingness to compromise on these three issues particularly?
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  2. Peter B

    Peter B Powers

    Spot on. This is crucial as an ecumenical principle and is the precise opposite of the 'lowest common denominator' ecumenism out there which basically thinks that the way forward is to turn Catholic doctrine into liberal Protestantism (the 'Hans Küng option', if you like). That's a popular path at the moment - particularly in Western Europe as we're seeing with all the Synod-related manoeuvres from the modernist camp, but a surefire recipe for disaster: it's also an insult to the intelligence and sincerity of many Protestants, particular in the charismatic evangelical wing, who are serious about truth but have been theologically misled by the tradition in which they grew up.

    In terms of non-Catholic mystical experience, there is certainly something very interesting happening right now... From what I can see in some quarters of the Evangelical prophetic community the penny has dropped as people begin to realize the remarkable commonality between their experience and that of the Catholic mystics. This convergence seems to be incontrovertible both on the level of locutions and mystical phenomena. If you take the substantial body of prophetic writings by Rick Joyner, for example, which run to some 800+ pages and counting, you can find descriptions of Biblical scenes which could have been taken straight out of Bl Catherine Emmerich or Maria Valtorta. On Terry Bennett's website you can find his description of a mystical marriage ceremony between Jesus and himself not dissimilar to analogous descriptions by Catholic mystics such as Venerable Concepcion Cabrera de Armida ('mystical marriage' is a pretty counter-intuitive spiritual experience for a man(!), although the Vietnamese martyr Marcel Van (1928-1959) reported the same thing). The 250 or so pages of the Journal of an unknown prophet by Wendy Alec (founder of God TV) are absolutely coherent in style with Catholic writings in the same genre and in no way contradict Church teaching.

    On the level of phenomena, I recently watched a fascinating conversation about such cross-currents between the late John Paul Jackson (a genuine prophet if ever I saw one) and Randy Clark, a major name internationally in healing ministry whom I greatly respect and actually also the author of some fine scholarly work on the history of charismatic phenomena. Randy C. said that it was when reading Catholic mystical theology that he realized that experiences such as bilocation as reported by some charismatic evangelicals (for which classic Protestantism had basically given them no road map) had a history... Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj (whom I have seen call Mary 'Mother'!), Terry Bennett and Neville Johnson have also spoken about these similarities. The phenomenon known as 'Stephen's transport' (referring to Acts 7) or translation, i.e. being instantaneously taken to a different geographical location, as attested to in the lives of Catholic mystics such as Yvonne-Aimée de Malestroit, has recently been reported by well-known non-Catholic prophetic ministers Bruce Allen and James Maloney.

    Discernment is obviously needed with regard to individual cases, but to this investigator's eye it is pretty clear that something extraordinary is going on in the light of the sheer volume of evidence, however weird it may seem at first glance. I'm sure that many of my academic colleagues would regard me as a total loon for saying all of this, but I'm just trying to assess the evidence as carefully as possible without the anti-supernatural presuppositions that have stymied so much socio-historical research in the field of religious experience. The word 'extraordinary' may be actually a little misleading theologically: a good case can be made out for saying that wholly normal, supernatural Christianity as Christ promised to his apostles and as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles is being restored in our times in various corners of the Body of Christ as a foretaste of the 'powers of the age to come' (Hebrews 6:5). Denominational questions are surely secondary to the action of the Holy Spirit here.

    N.B. Just for clarification's sake in case people haven't been following this thread from the outset, Marie-Claire Liberatore ('Fille du Soleil'), 5 volumes of whose alleged locutions and dialogues have been published by Parvis, is Catholic. Top-grade material. It's Julie Whedbee who is a non-Catholic evangelical by the sound of things.
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  3. picadillo

    picadillo Powers

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  4. picadillo

    picadillo Powers

    Brilliant analysis PeterB! Thank you!
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  5. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Just ran across this article from "Charisma News":
    What Is the Supernatural Secret to Worldwide Revival?
    It might be worth a read.

    I used to be a regular watcher of the American Evangelist Perry Stone, as I enjoyed his historical view of Scripture. I stopped watching for two reasons:
    1. I got tired of the last 10 minutes of every half-hour show being devoted to selling his books (which were always retreads of his old books "with new information"), and
    2. I got tired of his promotion of Catholic sacraments while dissing their Catholic origin.
    For example: he started pushing the idea of the frequent reception of communion, and in fact used to sell a home communion kit so families could celebrate at home if their home church only did communion on Christmas and Easter. The problem was, every time he talked about communion, or "confessing your sins to one another", he'd emphasize that this was not like the Catholic Holy Communion "because the Catholics have a wrong understanding of it." In my mind, I justified it by thinking after the Warning, then all these former Perry Stone viewers would be primed and ready to partake in the REAL Eucharistic Feast!
  6. jnice :)

    jnice :) Angels


    MONDAY, JUNE 1, 2015


    Come to Me on bended knee, interceding for the sins of this nation and those of the world, for this is a most perverse and wicked generation. You have seen the destruction coming and know that it must be so, for never before has sin reached a level such as this. I have turned My eyes away for so long at the injustices and the terrible deeds men do in this place, but I can no longer turn a blind eye to the great deeds of darkness.
    I have spoken of a time when the cries of those slain, that are under My altar would be heard and their prayers answered. This is that time. You ask why there must be so much destruction, why so violent? I tell you this, that a mere thought by Me could vaporize the entire earth, taking My Bride and leaving nothing behind. It is always out of My mercy that I do all things. When I tell you that you will see those that will be in great terror and pain; when I speak of the wailing and gnashing of teeth, know this is something none of you has ever seen or heard before, or will again.
    This despair that will befall those who have turned their backs on Me will be so great, and what you will see is souls in complete and utter despair. I cannot describe to you what this will be like; I can only tell you over and over. Prepare! Prepare! Prepare yourselves! I need those who know Me intimately and walk with Me to minister to these lost ones and not be affected by their cries of anguish and pain. What you will see will be chilling. It will be the greatest horrors this world has ever known.

    But you see, My plan is perfect because unfortunately for many it is only out of great and intense pain and suffering that they cry out to Me. Should I turn My back on them and not care for their existence? Their pain would be lessened for they would simply vanish. But this is not My desire. There has been ample time over the centuries for people to turn to Me.

    Now the end must come.

    Although fiery and painful, tremendously powerful in might, it will still offer the opportunity for a choice to be made. Beauty will come from the ashes. This is why it must be done in this way. One day, I will show you all things and you will understand. But for now, it is enough to know that all of these things must take place and it is out of My great love for all that I do these things.

    Pray unceasingly. Remain steadfast and be of good courage My soldiers and My army, My warriors. Fight the good fight of faith in strength and honor, loyalty and bravery, showing goodness, kindness and mercy to all as it has been shown to you.

    Who will stand before the Great I AM? Who will stand?

  7. Peter B

    Peter B Powers

    Thanks for the link: the Charisma News article very much ties in with what I'm trying to say. Sid Roth's It's Supernatural can be a somewhat mixed bag, but he has a wonderful heart and I've seen/heard some absolutely jaw-dropping material on his show.

    The question of healings is crucially important, I think, not least because this is where a lot of barriers seem to be breaking down (God is no respecter of denominational boundaries when it comes to miracles...). I recently attended an ecumenical healing conference in the Paris suburbs at which somewhere around 4000 people turned up, and had the wonderful privilege of conversing with Damian Stayne of the Cor et Lumen Christi community (Google him if you haven't heard of him: I think he's dynamite), who said that it was his third such conference this year alongside Bill Johnson of Bethel Church in Redding, CA, where remarkable things have been going on for a long time now. He was of the opinion that the whole Evangelical/Catholic charismatic partnership that had great energy in the 1970s has rather been in the doldrums lately, with surprisingly few young people willing to get involved (Steubenville being the exception that proves the rule), but there are encouraging signs of a 'second wind'. Another local sign of hope in these parts is a Thursday evening healing prayer which I attend at St Nicolas des Champs, led by Fr Thierry Avalle, which draws 1000+ people each week: it's even difficult to find a place to stand. Many non-Catholics have come along and found themselves blown away by what's happening...There are literally dozens of 'words of knowledge' concerning healings every week, both physical and spiritual... as well as demonic manifestations/deliverances that tend to happen when there is genuine faith in a congregation. A very good documentary film (in French only, I'm afraid) was recently made about St Nicolas des Champs with the participation of, among others, Patrick Theillier, former head of the Lourdes Medical Bureau:
  8. jnice :)

    jnice :) Angels

    Thanks Pe
    Thanks Peter B. Your wider perspective and wisdom is such a great gift. Although, I must say I tried watching the video but I just could not decipher French. :)

    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus & Mary
  9. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I know! It's like a whole 'nuther language! :confused: :eek:
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  10. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Talking to Elaine Tavolacci, a Protestant messenger, she sometimes takes communion at home in her kitchen! Reason...

    I was happy to hear Verne Dagenais share, our brothers and sisters receive grace in their form. It is like, right now, our brothers and sisters do not have a desire for the holy Eucharist, they're fine with their understanding of communion.

    Elaine was baptized Catholic and some of her siblings remain Catholic. Elaine is going through serious
    health problems, cancer. Stop and offer a prayer for her :love:.

    Here is her latest message of Jun 11, 2015. I post a link, because it is about the holy Eucharist and their coming change of heart.

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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    This is a very interesting discussion to me. I needed to hear these things, because I have always realized that there are good faithful outside the church. Now I can begin to see, what has always confounded me in our fallen away brethren, how they could delve into scripture and unlike a Scott Hahn and others who found the fullness of truth in doing so, yet most still remain outside the fullness of the truths of the church. Like Peter B said, they have been brought up in 'traditions' that have never understood the mind the Church Jesus founded and often times persecute what they do not understand because of lies or half truths they were led to believe about what Catholics hold to be absolute truth.
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  12. jnice :)

    jnice :) Angels

    MONDAY, JUNE 15, 2015


    Daughter speak, for you know it is I, the Holy One of Israel. My sheep know My voice as I AM the Great Shepherd, the Great I AM, the One who was, who is and who is to come; the Lamb who was slain, who has redeemed men from their sins, all sin for all time. I AM He who has risen and is seated at the right hand of My Father. I AM He who is coming. Trust daughter and speak for Me this day.


    All power and authority are given to Me from on High by My Father, in the earth, on the earth, under the earth. I alone am King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I alone reign Supreme over every created thing. I alone am Sovereign. I alone am holy and righteous and can only speak truth for I AM the ever faithful One.

    Rise My children, rise and take a powerful and authoritative stand this day, this moment. For I call you to rise from the dust and the ashes of a world and of a nation corrupt. Assume your positions My children, My Bride; your lamps burning brightly and your oil overflowing, for it is you I speak to on this day. You must be fine-tuned, ever sober and vigilant, have laser-like focus, more so now than ever. You will not hear Me if you allow the distractions and the pollutions of the world to enter your minds and your situations. A greater refining is occurring as We speak together this day. And I am bringing Mine through the fire, the fire of testing and the fire of purification as silver is refined and gold -by fire.

    You are held to a greater accountability, and in this you do receive My greater revelations and the increase of My impartations to you in the spirit. I am pouring out My spirit in this place and I am causing My people to hear Me very clearly, very directly because of what I am about to do. A great and terrible hour is come, an hour in which you have been prepared. Many are the words and the warnings that have been spoken to My people to prepare them for this hour so that you would not move in fear.

    You will see great manifestations of My power and My presence as the end of all things is here. This great day has come and is upon you. The mighty fortresses that men have built in their own honor and for their own vanities will come crashing down. I AM will destroy all that man has raised up. I have shown you in your night vision this past night, the fire that will suddenly be upon you. In this vision you were shown how you were trying to warn people to take action and preventative measures, but all of your words fell on deaf ears. So many were consumed with the ongoings of daily life and were completely oblivious to what was befalling them.

    For the most part, My warnings and My words through My messengers and My prophets have been ignored.

    Because many have not been obedient to learn of Me and become intimate with Me so that I would reveal mysteries to them, they continue to operate in a realm and from a perspective that does not belong to Me and My Kingdom. Therefore, these things that come will be sudden-lies and catch them off-guard.
    But to you, My wise virgins who have your oil lamps full and overflowing, and who are ever ready in every moment to meet your Bridegroom, it is for you that I come. It is for you that this bridal chamber has been made ready. It is for you that the marriage table has been prepared.

    The drums of war are no longer in the distance daughter, they are upon you. The end is here. The day dawns when all of My prophecies must be fulfilled. Be steadfast and of good courage My beloveds. I hold you in the palm of My hand and no harm will come to those who have been obedient. Hide your eyes dear ones, until the indignation is past, for it will be terrible and great and sorrow will cover your lands. Judgment will strike suddenly and panic will ensue.

    My Bride is ready, however, for you have been trained in My ways and you will minister and love as I have loved you. You will gather the flock and bring comfort out of tribulation. My light in you will quell the fears of many, and many will come to know Me for who I AM. I will strike without warning, but for those of you who have been listening to My voice and preparing for this hour, you will rise in a strength that you have never had before. You will have My complete infusion. No longer will you operate from your flesh for We will be and are pure Spirit, One Spirit in each other, One Spirit in Our Father. All around the world, My Bride will hear One voice, One mandate. We move as One body. Of this you can be assured. We will communicate in the Spirit and there will be no question as to what you are to do and where you are to be.
    These judgments will not only come from under the earth as all of the plates are shifting, but this judgment will also come from the skies, as all must be shaken.

    Stand fast My army, be bold and be courageous, unwavering, unshakable, valiant and in authority, powerful love, Kingdom authority. This is who you are, because this is who I AM. To you is given all power, strength and authority from on High because it is I AM who dwells within you. There are no bounds and no limits to what We are about to do. All provision and resources from on High belong to you as the storehouses of blessings have been poured out upon you. You do not stand alone. You are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. Many, many assist in the spiritual. We are more than the enemy. We are victorious for We have already won. Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.
    I AM will bestow upon you a peace incomprehensible to those around you who will suffer great travail. Be love children, be My example, Be Me in all that is coming and great will be your reward. Rejoice for you have been chosen from before the foundation of time to fulfill this purpose for Me.
    You are loved by the King.

    What more is there than this??

  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Julie's message from today. One has to wonder if she has ever heard of the discussion that Pope Leo XIII had a vision of with God and Satan? Her vision seems to be a current discussion of the one that took place in the late 1800's.


    June 19, 2015
    I went directly into prayer upon waking, as I do each morning. I immediately was in a vision, standing behind Yahushua in a white robe and hood, sitting next to satan in a black robe and hood. They were having a conversation about the hour we are in. The Lord was somber and very contemplative as He listened to satan remind Him of the agreement that was made so very long ago.
    Permission has been granted to try the hearts of men, and they were discussing the details of how much power satan was permitted for these last days. Yahushua then confirmed to me that satan now has the most power to take souls away from Him, than he has ever had at any other time in history. A countdown has begun, and it is irreversible.
    At times, it is hard for me to describe what Yahushua reveals to me in words, as He often communicates with me spirit to spirit. I can only say that it has been confirmed that the clock strikes midnight. I have never seen anything in the spirit before as I did today with this conversion between Light and darkness...
    I then received words from our Father to give to you. May His mercy cover you.
    The greatest assault of all time has been launched against My people. What has been set in motion now cannot be stopped. The angelic realm are poised and positioned and await their orders. Permission is granted-judgment falls. Tremble ye, oh you inhabitants of the earth, for the darkest hours are yet to come.
    Judgment will be measured out equivalent to the stench of the unrighteous ones' sins in My nostrils. I am a just Judge; therefore, punishment will be rendered where punishment is due. You, the murderers and idolaters, the liars and the proud, the perverted and the wicked, you will now suffer the fate that you deserve. The die is cast for the blatantly unrepentant. There is no turning back now. You have been examined and you have been found wanting. You relish in filth and in darkness and this will now be served in its entirety. You have chosen the lord of darkness over Me, The only Creator and Light of the World. It is you who makes the choice, and it is you who will be accountable for your eternity without Me.
    To My remnant I say- Believe! Believe with all your hearts in My holy Word and all of the promises I have given you. Stand firm! Stand in My strength and in My authority. In Me, your mighty Fortress, you cannot be shaken.
    Don your garments of praise for the spirit of heaviness, for your joy comes, He who is the Morning Star. The whole earth will soon be filled with the glory of My church as she arises to meet her Bridegroom. I have promised you no more tears, no more sadness, as the Great I AM readies to rid the world of its darkness, once and for all.
    Hide yourselves in Me, while I cleanse, refine, and purify all that is not of Me. Trust Me and My words, that it must be so, or I would not be speaking this to you. Do not leave the Ark now, and do not look behind you...
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  14. jnice :)

    jnice :) Angels

    Fatima, it looks like the same as that of Pope Leo XIII. If this is so, I believe we have to keep praying to St. Michael, the Archangel, to defend us in battle always and to continue pleading our Lady to cover us in her mantle of love and protection, too.

    St. Michael, the Archangel, be our defense against the wickedness and the snares of the devil!

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
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  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    One has to wonder whether Satan would have the power he has now been given IF the Church faithful had continued to pray the St. Michael prayer as Pope Leo had requested? I know I don't miss saying it in my morning prayers.
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  16. jnice :)

    jnice :) Angels

    It might still be the same power however; God's power will always be greater!

    It is just sad that we know Jesus has given us so much yet there are still many who does not accept His saving grace.
  17. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I recently wrote our bishop and requested that he at least make it optional to pray the prayer at the end of the mass. Since it's technically a change to the Mass, its addition has to be approved by the local bishop. I'm hoping he makes it mandatory, but I'll accept optional and then just gear myself to start nagging the priests in my parish to use it.
  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Hide yourselves in Me, while I cleanse, refine, and purify all that is not of Me. Trust Me and My words, that it must be so, or I would not be speaking this to you. Do not leave the Ark now, and do not look behind you...
    I would assume the "Ark" is the Church. Perhaps a warning to those who will split from the Church at some point in the near future when the formal schism takes place.
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  19. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Some would say the schism has already taken place:
    German bishops have prepared the way for a de facto schism

    In another article, I read where the German bishops are already planning on releasing their own "pastoral" document after the upcoming "Synod on the Family".
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  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Monday, July 6, 2015

    You would do well children to remember Me, for in your remembrance of Me, I will remember you.
    Great and terrible things are upon you and only those who remember Me and My sacrifice, who have hid themselves under My robe of righteousness, who have prayed to be holy as I am holy, will I remember when judgment falls.
    Draw near to Me and I will draw near to you. Is this not what My word teaches? For all who call upon My name shall be saved. Even in your most dark hour, I will never abandon you. Always remember the love that was poured out for you that day as I hung upon the cross; a love eternal and a love unconditional, a sacrifice that only One ever made.
    I am that One.
    I am the only One, true and living God.
    There is none else besides Me.
    I am the vine and you are the branches, but you must be grafted into Me, the Source and Root of all. You must abide in Me and I in you.
    Nothing else matters..
    Cling to Me, your Rock, your Refuge, your High Tower, your Fortress. I am the Rock of Ages. I am He who has conquered death.
    I Am that I Am.
    I am He who was, who is, and who is coming, coming for a people who remember Me in all that they do. A people who place Me first in their hearts and in their minds, a people that praise My holy name, a people that worship in spirit and in truth, a people that are looking for Me to come for them. I come for a people that live My Word and know that I am the Redeemer of all.
    How great a love is this? That I, the only One would lay down My life for you, My friends, My sons and My daughters, the first-fruits of My Father's house.
    The hour of trial and testing is here.
    Remember Me and I will remember you.

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