Gay Marriage Referendum Ireland.

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by Sanctus, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I want to live in a bubble. I was listening to the Galway / Mayo match and afterways they were interviewing a couple from the 2 counties and asking if it impacted their relationship when one was from the winning side and one from the losing side and guess what the couple they chose to interview were lesbian.
    It's going to be impossible to protect children from this poisonous culture.
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  3. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    just heard on EWTN radio from an Irish caller
    Pro Life rally this Saturday 7/4 at 2pm in Dublin...palum square??? starts with a "P"...I think
    They ask for countless souls to come and take the streets back and if you would say a rosary or prayers if you cant attend
    Just spreading the word:)
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  4. Adoremus

    Adoremus Powers

    :ROFLMAO: Parnell Square. I'm hoping to go if I can get my work finished by then.
  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Fined for not hosting gay marriage on their family farm
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Just How Evil is Sodomy? The Saints Weigh In. [​IMG][​IMG]
    By Steve Skojec on June 30, 2015
    Brunetto Latini among the Sodomites (Illustration by Gustav Doré); Circle 7, Inferno 15

    In light of recent events, a theological concept that I’ve seen dusted off and put back into use with increasing frequency is that of a “sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance.”

    There are four such sins – murder, sodomy, oppression of the poor, and defrauding a worker of his wages. Each of these is considered especially egregious to God. While there were, until recently, civil legal restrictions on all four, the first two in particular have been losing battles in the courts for at least half a century, with sodomy making huge legal advances in both Ireland and the United States in the past sixty days.

    But just how bad is sodomy, really? If you listen to those sympathetic to those in homosexual relationships, you’d be led to believe it’s just a little harmless affection between people who are “in love.” So, on the scale of the serious sins, where does sodomy fall?

    At the blog, Musings of a Pertinacious Papist, Philip Blosser cites St. Peter Damian, doctor of the Church, as excerpted in a 2002 article by Randy Engels. The below begins with commentary from Engels, then transitions to St. Peter Damian in the double block-quoted portion:

    Among St. Peter Damian’s most famous writings is his lengthy treatise, Letter 31, the Book of Gomorrah (Liber Gomorrhianus), containing the most extensive treatment and condemnation by any Church Father of clerical pederasty and homosexual practices. His manly discourse on the vice of sodomy in general and clerical homosexuality and pederasty in particular, is written in a plain and forthright style that makes it quite readable and easy to understand.

    In keeping with traditional Church teachings handed down from the time of the Apostles, he holds that all homosexual acts are crimes against Nature and therefore crimes against God who is the author of Nature.

    … Damian decries the audacity of men who are “habituated to the filth of this festering disease,” and yet dare to present themselves for holy orders, or if already ordained, remain in office. Was it not for such crimes that Almighty God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, and slew Onan for deliberately spilling his seed on the ground? he asks. Quoting St. Paul’s letter to the Ephesians (Eph 5:5) he continues, “… if an unclean man has no inheritance at all in Heaven, how can he be so arrogant as to presume a position of honor in the Church, which is surely the kingdom of God?” [15]

    … According to Damian, the vice of sodomy “surpasses the enormity of all others,” because:

    “Without fail, it brings death to the body and destruction to the soul. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the mind, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, and gives entrance to the devil, the stimulator of lust. It leads to error, totally removes truth from the deluded mind … It opens up hell and closes the gates of paradise … It is this vice that violates temperance, slays modesty, strangles chastity, and slaughters virginity … It defiles all things, sullies all things, pollutes all things …

    “This vice excludes a man from the assembled choir of the Church … it separates the soul from God to associate it with demons…. Unmindful of God, he also forgets his own identity. This disease erodes the foundation of faith, saps the vitality of hope, dissolves the bond of love. It makes way with justice, demolishes fortitude, removes temperance, and blunts the edge of prudence.

    Looking to other sources, St. Peter Canisius explains not just the atrocity of this sin, but its origins. Does this sound familiar?

    As the Sacred Scripture says, the Sodomites were wicked and exceedingly sinful. Saint Peter and Saint Paul condemn this nefarious and depraved sin. In fact, the Scripture denounces this enormous indecency thus: ‘The scandal of Sodomites and Gomorrhans has multiplied and their sins have become grave beyond measure.’ So the angels said to just Lot, who totally abhorred the depravity of the Sodomites: ‘Let us leave this city….’ Holy Scripture does not fail to mention the causes that led the Sodomites, and can also lead others, to this most grievous sin. In fact, in Ezechiel we read: ‘Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and the poor. And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me; and I took them away as thou hast seen’ (Ezech. 16: 49-50). Those unashamed of violating divine and natural law are slaves of this never sufficiently execrated depravity.” (Emphasis added)

    St. Catherine of Siena writes of sodomy in what appears to be not her own mind, but God’s:

    But they act in a contrary way, for they come full of impurity to this mystery, and not only of that impurity to which, through the fragility of your weak nature, you are all naturally inclined (although reason, when free will permits, can quiet the rebellion of nature), but these wretches not only do not bridle this fragility, but do worse, committing that accursed sin against nature, and as blind and fools, with the light of their intellect darkened, they do not know the stench and misery in which they are. It is not only that this sin stinks before me, who am the Supreme and Eternal Truth, it does indeed displease me so much and I hold it in such abomination that for it alone I buried five cities by a divine judgment, my divine justice being no longer able to endure it. This sin not only displeases me as I have said, but also the devils whom these wretches have made their masters. Not that the evil displeases them because they like anything good, but because their nature was originally angelic, and their angelic nature causes them to loathe the sight of the actual commission of this enormous sin.

    Imagine that: the sin of sodomy is so unnatural that it is even repellent to the very demons who tempt men to engage in it.

    Returning to St. Peter Damian, we are offered advice on how to deal with those who favor this sin and who resent our Christian condemnation of the same:

    “… I would surely prefer to be thrown into the well like Joseph who informed his father of his brothers’ foul crime, than to suffer the penalty of God’s fury, like Eli, who saw the wickedness of his sons and remained silent. (Sam 2:4) … Who am I, when I see this pestilential practice flourishing in the priesthood to become the murderer of another’s soul by daring to repress my criticism in expectation of the reckoning of God’s judgement? … How, indeed, am I to love my neighbor as myself if I negligently allow the wound, of which I am sure he will brutally die, to fester in his heart? … “So let no man condemn me as I argue against this deadly vice, for I seek not to dishonor, but rather to promote the advantage of my brother’s well-being. “Take care not to appear partial to the delinquent while you persecute him who sets him straight. If I may be pardoned in using Moses’ words, ‘Whoever is for the Lord, let him stand with me.’ (Ezek 32:26)

    There are many more such quotes from the saints – too many to include here. St. Bernardine of Siena offers perhaps the most succinct verdict on the issue:

    “Just as people participate in the glory of God in different degrees, so also in hell some suffer more than others. He who lived with this vice of sodomy suffers more than another, for this is the greatest sin.” (Emphasis added)
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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    With the light of their intellect darkened, they do not know the stench and misery in which they are.

    Slavery to sin leads to eternal death. The darkness of death in eternal perdition.
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  8. Indy

    Indy Praying

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  9. Sanctus

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  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    While these words are speaking the whole truth. I don't think those who are living sinful lives have a clue what the consequenses truly means.

    Someone needs to say. 'Darkness' 'Misery' and 'Perdition' means; lost souls live with gang rape, and violence, in sewerage and burning sulphur applied by demons and their slaves for all eternity. Is the risk worth it I would ask.

    Because I don't think the words sink in without what the outcome of living with sin and not repenting before death means.

    And if the Church of 'Nice' has not got the message across, maybe it is time to be blunt and 'militant.'
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  11. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus Archangels

    From a recent post by Charlie Johnston:

    The vote in Ireland to legalize and impose same-sex “marriage” ensured that it would soon be imposed in much of the rest of the Western World. We do not just sin any more, we call sin “the good” and Christian values “the bad.” For the first time in 1,600 years, our foundational cultural assumptions are fundamentally pagan rather than Christian. The axis of our cultural assumptions has shifted dramatically. God is not giving you inside info on the end, but calling you to participate in shifting the culture back to the foundation that gives life, rather than one that has always given death.
  12. svetnik

    svetnik New Member

    HI to all

    We will have a referendum about marriage in Slovenia on 20 December 2015. If proponents succeed marriage equality will be granted to homosexuals along with all pertaining rights such as adoption of children, gender theory education in schools or even buying and selling of babys to homosexual couples.
    In order to scrap this law the law requires majority of cast ballots to be againts it AND more than 20 % of total constituency to be against that which is very hard to achieve since normal turnout for referendums is typically around 10 %. So it is not enough just to oppose this law but to actually go to the polling station and to cast a vote against it. People are mostly against this law but they have to vote. The results will be know on Sunday evening. We ask for prayers.
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  13. josephite

    josephite Powers


    Also I'm going to adoration, confession and Holy Mass on Friday and will take all this to Our Lord.
    God Bless Slovenia and Slovenian people now, in her hour of need.
  14. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus Archangels

    My thoughts and prayers are with you. The repercussions of these laws will be tsunamis rather than ripples.
    God protect us.
  15. svetnik

    svetnik New Member

    Thank you for all your prayers. I would like to let you know that God has just granted us a miracle. At today's referendum the Slovenian people rejected the law that was proposed by the Parliament majority that would grant marriage equality to homosexuals and allow them to adopt children, teach gender theory at school etc.
    Turnout at the polling stations was just over 36 % and 63 % of people voted against the proposed law.
    We therefore reached and surpassed the number of votes that was needed for the law to be rejected (20 % of all registered voters).
    We humbly thank God for his mercy.
  16. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Praise God and may He bless those who took part in the vote to preserve some hope for your country.
  17. Scolaire Bocht

    Scolaire Bocht Archangels

    Thats great news svetnik, congratulations to all who campaigned on the subject out there!
  18. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Alleluia! Alleluia!
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