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  1. Glenn

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    Girls hold Mary’s crown !
    (July 29, 1961 )


    "One of them finally rose to her feet and took the Virgin's crown in her arms. The crowd saw her go through the motions of examining it, and lift it onto her head. The crown was passed from hand to hand among the children. The spectators could see that it fitted some heads better than others.

    An eyewitness recorded the scene. "They raised their hands as if proffering something. One folded her arms. There was a sound of kisses. They stretched out their arms, smiling; now, they were listening; they started to cry. After eleven minutes they came to. We ran over to them and observed that one still had wet tear-stains on her cheeks. 'Why are you crying?' we asked. But she did not answer." *

    "Who did you see?" someone asked Mary Loli.
    "We saw Our Lady of Mount Carmel. We held her crown in our hands."

    "We were still talking to them," recalls a spectator, "when they had their third vision of the day, and went into a trance again. This time, everything they said was heard quite clearly. The Virgin brought the Infant Jesus. They took His crown. The little girls remarked that it was small. They asked His age. "The Virgin is very pleased because the people obeyed her. She says to say the rosary. She says that if they want they can come and say it here."

    “Apparitions of Garabandal”, by F. SANCHEZ-VENTURA Y PASCUAL
    Chapter 4, page 62,63
     
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  2. Glenn

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    TODAY IN GARABANDAL HISTORY : JULY 31,1961

    For the first time, the Visionaries in ecstasy move about on their knees. They recite the Rosary without having learned it, without prayer beads, without counting on their fingers and without making any mistakes regarding the mysteries, as well as the number of “Ave Marias”. (This was proof that Mary was teaching them in their vision)

    “The Village Speaks”, pg 23


    You hear the girls praying the first glorious mystery. Two chants of the girls in ecstasy are included.

     
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  3. Glenn

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    TODAY'S FIRST READING REMINDED ME OF A MESSAGE CONCHITA GAVE ME AFTER THE PASSING OF HER HUSBAND.
    I THINK IT IS TRULY PROFOUND.

    READING 1 ECC 1:2, 2:21-23
    Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, vanity of vanities! All things are vanity! Here is one who has labored with wisdom and knowledge and skill, and yet to another who has not labored over it, he must leave property. This also is vanity and a great misfortune. For what profit comes to man from all the toil and anxiety of heart with which he has labored under the sun? All his days sorrow and grief are his occupation; even at night his mind is not at rest. This also is vanity.

    CONCHITA'S MESSAGE:
    " Death for sure is not the end, it is the beginning and the "vanities" of the world are a loss of energy because it distracts us from the reality of life, and true happiness. "
    Conchita, December 17, 2013
     
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  4. Glenn

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    AUGUST 1963
    Conchita was at this time, achieving the writing of her precious Diary: some forty handwritten simple, yet priceless pages. The vivid style sometimes rises to a real level of poetry. The description of the portraits of Our Lady, of the Child Jesus and of the Angel, is charming and the details are exquisite; Conchita's spelling is . . . pleasantly outrageous and is matched only by the "revolutionary expressions" of her syntax! The account covers, quickly and very concisely, the period of the apparitions, and stops after the beginning of the locution phase. The brief testimony "from within" is nevertheless an irreplaceable document.

    From 'Garabandal' Book, J. Serre & J B. Caux. page 177
    ( "Conchita's Diary" only available in English and Spanish )
    Photo: Beatrice Caux (on the left ) with Conchita.
    Con & Caux.jpg

    CONCHITA’S DIARY (in English ) http://www.stjosephpublications.com/book_manuscripts_pages/Conchitas_Diary_eng.htm
     
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  5. Glenn

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    Eyewitness Testimony by Fr. Ramon Andreu, AUGUST 1, 1961

    Many people have seen the girls hit their knees hard when they fall and they have always observed that they show no feeling of pain. I have seen them stay on their knees for over an hour on many occasions without complaining of exhaustion or pain. I have witnessed how they fall on their knees many times, including from one or two stairs high, and they do not show the slightest sign of pain. The most spectacular thing in this sense was when María Dolores was on her knees one night and fell forwards, hitting her neck very hard against the edge of the stairs. It made a very loud noise, and her head resisted; the girl ended up sitting on the floor. An exclamation went through everyone who was there, and there was fear in their faces. The girl laughed once she was sitting on the floor and she continued talking about an object with the vision as she had been doing before the fall.

    Fr. Ramon Andreu, Notebook #1 August 1,1961 Fr Ramon.jpg
     
  6. Glenn

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    TUESDAY, AUGUST 1, 1961 THE CREED: A ONE, HOLY CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC AND . . . "ROMAN" CHURCH!

    On this day, the girls in ecstasy recited the Creed, quite notably the Nicea-Constantinople one, for the first time apart from the rosary. This was a unique case in the public Marian apparitions, even in the whole history of apparitions. This particular performance would be repeated in twelve distinct and most relevant days the last of them significantly corresponding to the precise point of junction between the 1st and 2nd of November. Quite notable also is the strong biblical and ecclesial symbol of the number "12."

    To this "profession of faith" always recited, it seems, in honor to the "Heart of Jesus" (al "Sagrado Corason"), the visionaries added an element of prime importance, of a truly prophetic nature, saying: "I believe in the one, holy, catholic, apostolic and Roman Church . . ."! The addition of these last words is most certainly linked to the future "reunification of the Churches" predicted at San Sebastian de Garabandal, and to which we will eventually return.

    On this same day, during another ecstasy, Loli and Jacinta were also heard for the first time reciting the Ave Maria with this beautiful addition: "Holy Mary, Mother of God" 'and our Mother' pray for us . . .", an addition the Blessed Virgin asked the visionaries not to use before the Church allowed it, in clear distinction to the previous addition "and Roman Church"!
    Excerpted from the 'Garabandal' Book, J. Serre, page 74 .
     
  7. Glenn

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    TODAY IN GHARABANAL HISTORY: AUGUST 3, 1961
    NEW ECSTATIC PHENOMENA

    The swaying movements began on the 31st of July. They were to be the prelude of yet more striking manifestations: the ecstatic falls, a kind of slow and graceful collapse of the children until they were stretched out on the ground.
    These falls occurred quite frequently. Every time they happened, the girls drew attention by their beauty, their grace and the modesty of their attitudes and expressions. Spectators could not help but be inclined to admire and respect them. The visionaries were always dressed in a most decent way, their clothes covering them sometimes even in a sliding movement opposite to the natural direction of the fall. Mari-Loli and Jacinta were the first to "inaugurate" this phenomenon; they would remain stretched out some ten minutes in this astonishing position.

    Brigadier Secco heard Mari-Loli asking her Vision: "If you don't help me, I could not get up." Then she was seen extending her arm, and as if raised by a mysterious force, "she slowly rose to a sitting position."
    Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, J. Serre, pages 75-77. levitation.jpg
     
  8. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal History August 4,1961
    OUR BLESSED MOTHER'S VOICE IS HEARD !


    Conchita recounts the story in the book "Our Lady comes to Garabandal" . She said " I was returning from the fields, we met my Godmother Maximina Gonzalez, she was very excited and said this to us "Do you know the voice of the Blessed Virgin has been heard on a tape recorder ?" " What did she say I asked ? " She replied " Loli and Jacinta asked her (The Blessed Virgin) "Speak, Please Speak" and the people heard an answer : " No, I won’t speak " . My Godmother told me that people began to cry because they were very moved at having heard the Blessed Virgin's voice.

    Upon hearing it, Conchita smiled and said very happily that it was the Virgin Mary who spoke. They wanted to re-play it, but it hasn’t been known to have been heard again.

    "Our Lady comes to Garabandal" page 59
    "SHE WENT IN HASTE TO THE MOUNTAIN" CHAPTER 7 on page 156.
     
  9. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal History August 4,1962 :
    New recitation of the " Hail Mary."


    August 4. At 9:30, after the rosary, the four girls went into ecstasy. They went to the cuadro then later to the Pines praying the rosary. During the Hail Mary, they said, "Holy Mary, Mother of God and our Mother." They descended backwards toward the church; they walked around it. It lasted about an hour. There were two seminary professors from San Sebastian, a Claretian priest, and Father Alba, S.J., from Barcelona as well as Father José Ramon.
    Father Valentin was struck by the addition of "our Mother" to the recitation of the Hail Mary. And he was not the only one. Luis Navas, the lawyer from Palencia, who was present that day, wrote: "We had never heard them say it this way, 'Mother of God and our Mother.' The village priest took note of this very interesting detail that so much reflects the maternal character of the Virgin. The visionaries' way of speaking, with their even-pitched, soft, delicate, melodious voices filled our souls with tranquility, as though we were feeling Our Lady above our heads."

    From : “ She went in haste to the Mountain”, Book 3, Chapter 2, page 56
     
  10. Glenn

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    Joey Lomangino on Mother Angelica Live -AUGUST 4, 1995



    In 1995, I targeted Mother Angelica's EWTN live show to interview Joey & Marilynn.
    I called and wrote the President Bill Steltemier for 6 months straight relentlessly !
    He finally caved in, probably figured it was easier to put Joey on one time and get rid of me for good, lol. Well, that show was the highest rated show they ever had ,and Joey & Mother Angelica had such good chemistry, we were asked back again, and again. That show caused the video to explode in the USA. You can listen to that 30 minute show on the link below.

    https://www.garabandal.us/mp3/motherangelica.mp3
     
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  11. Glenn

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    TODAY IN GARABANDAL HISTORY AUGUST 5, 1961:

    THE "ECSTATIC WALKS"

    For the same reason as for the "calls" and the "falls," the "ecstatic walks" are typical events of San Sebastian de Garabandal. Their purpose was to draw attention to the apparitions (ecstasies).

    These walks were absolutely extraordinary; they consisted in the girls moving from place to place, sometimes at a very high speed. The visionaries, hand in hand, would move at a very rapid pace, without seeing anything of their itinerary. They did not stumble on the rocky roads they took, their eyes being fixed on the apparition guiding them. According to the children's explanations, they had the impression of being "settled comfortably" in a fixed position with respect to their vision.

    Here two of the girls are walking backwards. They would proceed in this way up to the Pines. On the steep slope of this same calleja , the children walked on their knees, without ever bruising themselves or experiencing the slightest pain as they came in contact with the rocky surface of the land. During the walks, the children appeared to be moved by an interior force that made the witnesses unable to hold them back. The rapid pace of the visionaries could become a race . . .
    A word about their "range of vision": the girls saw nothing but the Apparition herself.

    At the end of these ecstatic walks, while the witnesses, even the most athletic ones, are deadbeat, Loli, on her part, shows no signs of fatigue. She is simply a little pale, but gives the impression of being calm.

    Excerpted from "Garabandal" Book, J.Serre, pages 81-83

     
  12. Glenn

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    TODAY IN GARABANDAL HISTORY AUGUST 6, 1978: POPE PAUL VI PASSED AWAY.

    SAINT (POPE) PAUL VI AND GARABANDAL

    January of 1966 Conchita was called to the Vatican. Cardinal Ottaviani, the pro-Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (Holy Office) had instructed Fr. Luna: "With or without the permission of the bishop, bring the young girls to me." During January 12-16 she was interviewed for 2 1/2 hours by the Cardinal and saw other members of the Congregation, afterwards she saw the Pope and gave him the date of the Great Miracle to come. She then paid a visit to Padre Pio, the famous stigmatist. Upon her return, at an audience in St. Peter's, the Holy Father came to her and announced joyfully in a clear voice, "Conchita, I, the Pope, bless you and with me the whole Church blesses you."

    At an audience given to Fr. Xavier Escalda, S.J., the latter mentioned there were many opponents of the apparitions even amongst his own people. His Holiness promptly rejoined:
    "It doesn't matter; tell these gentlemen that it is the Pope who has said that it is most important and most urgent to make these messages known to the world."
     
  13. Glenn

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    PREPARE NOW !

    Today’s Gospel (Sun. Aug. 7) reading Luke 12:32-48 reminds us that Jesus encourages us to prepare now for his second coming. In much the same way Conchita speaks to us about heeding Mary’s messages at Garabandal now, before the Warning and Miracle, when she said “ Live the Messages ! “.


    At age 16 Conchita was already was spiritually wise: "There is no point in our believing in the apparitions if we do not heed the message." From “Star on the Mountain”, p. 118


    “It is useless to believe in the apparitions if we don’t fulfill the message; if we don’t comply with what Holy Mother Church says…fulfilling the message, we might as well not believe in the apparitions”
    Conchita’s letter to Fr. Alba of Barcelona on Dec.10, 1965 ( from “Conchita’s Diary” (Spanish Ed. Pg. 42 note 47)


    Also from “ Garabandal: Message of Hope” pg 178
    “To guess at dates regarding the [prophesied] Miracle shows a lack of faith in the Blessed Virgin. Indeed, the energies expended on this are so much better spent on living the Message! “
     
  14. Glenn

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    TODAY IN GARABANDAL HISTORY : August 8,1961

    A little after 9:00 in the evening, the second session of that unforgettable day begins. Once again the four girls assemble in the church and before the main altar fall into ecstasy. They breathe deeply. Then they laugh, except for Conchita; she speaks, “Yes, as you wish, as you command . . . We don't care what direction we go. As you say . . . But we haven't given any proof, and the people don't believe.”

    Toward 9:40 they get up and leave the church in an ecstatic march. They stop at those locations in the village where ecstasies had taken place, and they pray there . . . Never had stations been made with such devotion in Garabandal. The people who silently followed the girls during their marches and devotedly accompanied them in their prayers were as if taken up by supernatural emotion. It seemed like the way of the Lord, the way of mercy for that village until then so lost and forgotten. Here the footsteps of God and the Virgin traced their way to people regarded as nothing by the world.
    In contrast to this world in a rush to secularization, what a night at Garabandal! And it was not the only one. It appeared destined to consecrate everything—the streets, the corners, the houses, the lonely trails, the quiet fields, the starry skies.

    Toward the end of the march they were heard to say, “On what day will we see you again, so that the people may come? . . . The people say that this is a sickness of ours, and the young boys have thrown stones at us . . . Well, if you are happy with us, it doesn't matter.” And when it seemed that everything was going to end, they undertook an ascent to the Pines that all the witnesses have classified as impressive not only on account of the appearance of the four girls, but also because of the speed and lightness of their march.

    “She went in haste to the Mountain” Book 1, p. 177
     
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    TODAY IN GARABANDAL HISTORY beginning on AUGUST 8 & ending on August 9, 1961


    FATHER LUIS MARIA ANDREU SEES THE
    BLESSED VIRGIN OF MOUNT CARMEL
    AND THE FUTURE GREAT MIRACLE !

    Father Luis came back to Garabandal for the third time, on the 8th of August 1961, in order to observe once more the ecstasies. On that day, the Pastor, Don Valentin, who had to go to Santander, entrusted him with the keys of the church. The Jesuit Father celebrated his Mass in "an admirable manner," said those who had taken part. This was to be his last Mass.

    In the evening of this Tuesday, and for the third time, the visionaries fell into ecstasy in the village church. When they came out of the church, they began a long ecstatic walk that Fr. Luis followed, from the beginning to the end, up to the Pines, where himself falling into ecstasy, the priest suddenly pronounced loudly the word "Miracle!", four times. His eyes fixed on heaven, he was granted to see the Blessed Virgin of Mount Carmel, and also, by anticipation, the future great Miracle which is to take place at San Sebatian de Garabandal. This was a unique event, and we know that the Jesuit Father had penetrated into the visionaries' "range of vision." They would later describe him in these few words: "He was there, on his knees, beads of perspiration on his forehead, the Blessed Virgin looking at him. We had the impression that she was telling him: 'Within a short time, you will be near me'."

    The ecstasy over, Padre Luis came down from the Pines and, with some of his friends, went down in a jeep to Cosio to await the arrival of some of the other persons with whom he had come, and who had preferred to walk back. It was about one in the morning. The Father was dozing in the vehicle when Don Valentin, who was just coming back to the village, joined him. Immediately, Luis spoke: "Don Valentin, what the children are saying is true! But I ask you not to repeat what I have just told you. For the Church will never be too prudent in such matters."

    At about four in the morning, while they were driving on the road to Reinosa, Luis spoke to his friends: "I am filled with joy! What a favor the Blessed Virgin has granted me! How lucky we are to have such a Mother in heaven! We must not be afraid of the supernatural. The children have taught us how to speak to the Blessed Virgin. For me, there can be no doubt! Why did the Blessed Virgin choose us, yes, us? Today is the happiest day of my life!"

    Then he became silent. There was a sigh. Fr. Luis' head fell forward. He was dead! He was 36 years old. Father Luis' involvement with Garabandal was far from being over. In fact, it was revealed to Conchita that "on the day following the future great Miracle, his body will be found just as he was, when he died!" [Incorrupt.]


    Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, J. Serre, pages 84-87.
     
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    SAINT JOSE MARIE ESCRIVA AND GARABANDAL

    The link between St Josemaría Escrivá de Balaguer with the Garabandal apparitions is not well known. In the summer of 1962 he spent a few days on holiday in Suances, Cantabria, during which he visited Garabandal, accompanied by several young men , probably members of Opus Dei. He spoke cheerfully and profoundly to the girls, an experience they still recall fondly after all these years. The visit was not unusual since at that time, and up until the Official Note of the Bishop of Santander of 7 October 1962, many priests visited Garabandal. He reportedly went there three times. Mary Cruz described St. Escriva “ as a friendly priest, very sociable, always surrounded by young people”. She mentioned also that he always had candy for the Seers, and stood out among the visitors.

    As it happens, news of this visit came out by chance years later when somebody showed the girls a prayer picture for God’s favour through his intercession, printed during his canonization. It was then that the girls joyfully recounted the meeting. He would not have risked his reputation if he did not believe in the apparitions, and tell others about his trip to talk to the girls. This was also confirmed by Mother Nieves.
    St. Josemaria Escriva “ A Saint is a sinner who keeps trying”.


    Notes taken from pg 245,"Garabandal: Message of hope" , Fr. L. Saavedra
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I wonder Glenn do you recall ; did Our Lady of Mount Carmel at Garabandal promote a Special Rosary. I read in this book recently reporting on Garabandal and other apparitions that she did?

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  18. Glenn

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    There were some slight changes, read my posts above on August 1 and Aug. 4.
     
  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Thanks. I must try this to see...
     
  20. Glenn

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    GARABANDAL & PURGATORY
    I have always viewed Purgatory as God's greatest act of Mercy. The reason I say this is that, for the most part, most people do not deserve Heaven immediately upon their demise. Purgatory at least gives us that hope and that someday, we can attain Heaven (and we have also avoided hell ). The Warning will be God's next greatest act of Mercy, by allowing us to see the gravity of all our sins, as he sees them, and a chance to repent, and correct our ways, before a final judgment one day .

    Reprinted from GARABANDAL MAGAZINE (NEEDLES) Autumn 1976 The message concerning purgatory was taught at Garabandal indirectly through the actions of the girls, as was so much of the Garabandal message. It was a lesson imparted not through words but through deeds, by being lived and practiced. Our Lady led the children in ecstasy to pray for the souls in purgatory. Implicit in this prayer was the teaching that all souls who are saved do not go directly or immediately to heaven. Some of them are not yet ready to see God and must be purified by making atonement for their sins in an intermediary place that is appropriately called purgatory or place of purgation. By Joseph A. Pelletier, A.A.
     
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