Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Absolutely correct, but an honest unbeliever is preferable to an apostate.
     
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  2. Basto

    Basto Archangels

    However, Ukrainian Catholics have feared this for a long time and began to suffer in some way from the hostilities of the Putinist regime long before the current Russian aggression against their country. This is from July 2021, long before there was talk of a large-scale invasion:


    As Malachi Martin said in 1990 - I don't remember the exact words - in Ukraine there is a group of Catholics who lived through the horrors of communism and they have no illusions about Russia's conversion.
     
  3. Basto

    Basto Archangels

    He also said some interesting things about the Russian Orthodox Church, its complicity with the communist regime. It would be interesting to hear his opinion today about Patriarch Kirill's blessing of Putinist terrorism in Ukraine.
     
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  4. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I can't imagine anyone worse than Genocide Joe.

    If I weren't Catholic and staunchly anti-violence, especially anti-war, and if I were in Putin's position, I think that I would drop a hint to AIPAC that the next target of my super duper missile would be Tel Aviv or the Levantine gas field.

    https://www.dw.com/en/the-history-of-nord-stream/a-58618313
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/15/eu-signs-gas-deal-with-israel-egypt-in-bid-to-ditch-russia

    Chancellor Shroder had a big mouth. He fancied the gas deal with Russia would make the Euro rival the US dollar's reserve currency status.
    The wars in Ukraine, Gaza and Lebanon are connected. Israel is about to annex Gaza and claims rights to potential gas fields off the coast of Lebanon.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Think for a moment.

    All sides are under control of the evil one.
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Yes. And the evil one has his agents...
     
  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    A big mouth may just be another way of describing frankness and honesty. There is nothing wrong with expecting secondary benefits from honest dealing. There is little frankness or honest dealings from our current Western 'leaders'. I never heard any rumours of personal corruption regarding Schroeder, perhaps he just wished to build a prosperous Europe, which is a laudable objective if pursued through honest and honourable means. I see little evidence of honesty or honour nowadays, least of all, as you point out, from a 'Genocide Joe' whose primary objective seems to be the protection of his 'investments' in the Western Ukraine.

    Certainly, the Ukraine (I think the definite article is important), Gaza and Lebanon are connected. The former is ruled by the same people as the Genociders of Gaza and Lebanon.
     
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  8. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Nothing wrong with secondary benefits for Germany. I think Shroder's personal secondary benefits of lucrative appointments in Gazprom and the Norstream Board sullied his image. All the skulduggery about energy supplies probably explains why the Germans are supporting yet another genocide. Opposing the genocide is strictly ver boten in Germany. I think it could carry a prison sentence but I'm not sure about that. As in other countries, Jews are among its most vocal critics and are being denounced as anti-semitic.

    Von der Leyen tells us that Europeans can be assured of secure energy supplies thanks to "cheaper" American liquid gas. This despite manufacturers (even Miele) leaving Germany due to high energy costs. Try as they might, it seems to me that Germany's goose is cooked, to be replaced by the more compliant Poland. I suppose the Poles can manufacture weapons. Energy costs shouldn't be a factor when a single missile can fetch about a million dollars. Where do we buy our oil?
     
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  9. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    When Malachi Martin stated in his 1997 interview with Bernard Janzen that Russia and Kiev are involved in solving the problem, he inadvertently outlined a timeline for Russia's conversion, which would occur after Putin's first term. After all, if Russia and Kiev are key elements in the triumph of the Immaculate Heart, it is expected that they would hold significant global prominence, whether in the world or within the Church, either through mutual hostility or its opposite.

    Until the early 2000s, a conflict involving Russia and Ukraine was unthinkable, but it later became a stark reality, making Malachi Martin's words seem prophetic. In the current scenario, however, we clearly do not see the fulfillment of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary or the era of peace. After all, there is no peace for the unborn in nearly any part of the world, nor for Catholics in Russia, who are regarded as a byproduct of Western culture. Likewise, Western Catholics struggle against the dominant woke culture but clearly distinguish their enduring faith from the agendas of their governments, including the woke and 2030 agendas. This situation is reminiscent of Christians in the early Church before Rome's conversion, who knew how to separate their faith and traditions from the decadence of the dominant empire.

    Our hope now lies in the "happy ending" foreseen by Malachi Martin arriving as quickly as possible, especially now that Russia and Ukraine are in the spotlight. May Kiev be free from any anti-Catholic political influence, whether from Russia or the West. Certainly, the triumph will come through divine intervention—not through the likes of Biden, Macron, Zelensky, nor the alternative side of Putin, Xi Jinping, or Kim Jong Un.
     
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  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Where we buy our oil might be the least of our problems. No doubt, from the dearest supplier. And we buy our own gas off of whoever we gave it away to, I think. Expect all the ai data centres to get first choice of it, at tax-payers' expense.

    Given the insane aggression being nakedly displayed by so many European leaders, who must be fantasising they can go in and steal the Russian resources, I don't think Russia can afford to wait and therefore permit Europe to prepare. I would expect them to arrive on the Atlantic, as the prophecies foretell.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The Ukraine is ruled by a Jew. Although, there are only about 40,000 Jews in the country (as of 2022), they hold a wildly disproportionate number of positions of power and about 30% of the parliamentary seats. Therefore, the most anti-Catholic group in the world is running the show, one that has overseen the deaths of tens of thousands of Christians on both sides. I would be surprised if they weren't inflaming the divisions between both Christian blocs (I think the Ukraine has outlawed the Russian Orthodox Church). In this context, particularly now that Biden is talking of giving Zelensky nukes (would Blinken, Nuland be involved?), it is, as you point out, hard to foresee a happy ending without the Direct Intervention of Christ the King.
     
  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Basto posted something along these lines earlier this year, in response to the initial repression by the Russian Orthodox Church against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. The latter adopted a mutual response. As for the Jews in Ukraine, if they are part of any liberal Jewish group, they had no influence over the Ukrainian Church, as the Ukrainian bishops responded unanimously against "Fiducia Supplicans". Thus, no matter how much Putin and Kirill try to frame their special operation as a moral crusade, the facts contradict them.

    Regarding the escalation of the war, I believe it was initially driven by Putin as well, especially when he had to ask for help from North Korea, thereby increasing the internationalization of the conflict. However, I agree that Biden does not have the right to pass the burden onto his successor, potentially undermining the latter's peace plans. After all, even Trump recently asked Putin not to escalate the war. Furthermore, when it came time for Trump to renew the Supreme Court at the end of his term, the "Catholic president" wanted him to wait until after the election to do so.

    By the way, here in Brazil, many leftist websites that condemn Israel, such as Sputnik Brasil, Brasil 247, and the Brazilian Communist Party’s website, are the ones supporting Russia’s ideological stance in the war. Therefore, I don’t believe this war is driven by a Jewish group but rather by two ideological political groups fighting for power. I recommend you visit these Brazilian leftist websites I mentioned using a browser with automatic translation, such as Chrome. Living in Brazil gives me a clear sense that this war is a straightforward ideological dispute between two blocs and that there are no heroes on either side.

    Let us pray for the conversion of Russia and the entire West, so that they may be converted by the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
     
  13. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Zelensky and his parliament were actually the ones who did this.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Is it not to Netanyahu's benefit that Russia be defeated and driven out of Syria? The Zionists' Finance Minister recently declared that they want Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt in their 'Greater Israel'. For this, they need Russia out of Syria and a strengthened NATO that can keep Turkey in line.

    There are rabbis in Israel now, that believe Trump is going to be the one to build their Third Temple. I fear that it is this kind of apocalyptic thinking, combined with greed (cf Lynsey Graham's recent statement about hoping Trump will bring a deal that will provide the US to make loads of money out of the 'rare earths' that they can take from the Ukraine), that is driving this war, rather than out-dated ideological differences that still might have a real echo in Brazil, but are meaningless in the context of a Europe that now resembles the USSR far more than present-day Russia does.

    Vive Christo Rei.
     
  15. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    It is likely so, as Russia is an ally of the Iranian government, which seeks the annihilation of the Zionist state of Israel. Regarding the Third Temple, if it is built on the site of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, it will likely serve as the driving event for the new order through chaos. As for Lindsey Graham, as I mentioned earlier, I don’t think there are any “good guys” on either side of this war, and his interests, which you mentioned, also explain Putin’s interest in Ukraine. To me, this provides a much more convincing explanation for the start of the special operation in Ukraine.

    As for the ideological divergences that echo in Brazil, I don’t think they are outdated, especially in light of the recent BRICS group meeting a few weeks ago. May Christ reign over all peoples and overthrow all malicious ideologies that conflict with one another.
     
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  16. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I believe I made it clear earlier that the reason God is raising Russia to punish the West is precisely because its nations resemble the worst forms of communism.
     
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  17. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Because there are many problems in the world that are worse than what you have to endure living in Germany, I find it somewhat difficult to express a purely German viewpoint here in the forum.
    I actually wanted to write that I would be brief, but it has now become a very long text, sorry.
    But it will soon disappear into the depths of the internet and will only be used against me by the police if necessary...^^

    The biggest problem within Germany is that for several years now, German politicians have not been pursuing policies that prioritize the well-being of their own country.

    At least since the migration crisis caused by Chancellor Merkel in 2015, a self-destructive Globalist-Soros policy has been pursued here.
    The European refugee crisis arose in the first place because of Merkel's illegal order to allow anyone to enter Germany without any controls at the border and to provide migrants with better economic support than many locals. The financial and social limits in this respect have long been exceeded.
    We Germans have not pursued this migration policy exclusively since then, other European countries had to join in, whether they liked it or not. But Chancellor Merkel was the political puppet who triggered it.

    What we are perhaps doing relatively exclusively, however, is the self-destruction of industry/economy and thus the destruction of our prosperity.
    Declared as climate/environmental protection and support for Ukraine.
    Energy costs are so incredibly high here because nuclear and coal-fired power plants are being dismantled at the same time.
    Gas can only be obtained from Russia in a relabelled form, via detours and thus at a higher price.
    As a centre of industry, Germany needs cheap energy. Otherwise what is currently happening will happen - industry will move on to regions with lower energy costs.
    Energy should only be generated from electricity, electricity should only be generated from sun and wind. There is just one small problem, without storage capacity, when there is little sunshine in winter and it does not wind enough.
    But especially in winter, we need a little more light and warmth for the hard-working people who finance all this crap with their taxes.
    Politics in this country is nothing but irrational. Anyone who points this out spreads fake news and and some still have to pay fines for this.
    I think the Germans really are the most naive people, as Napoleon is supposed to have said.

    Northstream is also a special story.
    A project from which, in my opinion, not only Germany and Russia would have benefited, but the whole of Europe could have received cheap gas, was politically torpedoed by all sides for many years. Until it was finally blown up.
    It is not so relevant whether it was, as Seymour Hersh stated, the US government or, as other reports suggest, Ukraine.
    The German government is either not interested in clarification or, more likely, does not dare to publish the results of the investigation.
    And the German mob probably still has the completely illogical attribution of blame in its head that Russia itself blew up 3 out of 4 of its pipelines.
    This was pressed into the Germans' brains via German media after the explosion. But nobody here thinks about anything any more.

    So what we need is a patriotic policy like that which is emerging in other countries.
    I expect that won't happen here for a long time yet.
    Next year, a Blackrock chancellor will almost certainly be elected. He has other things on his mind than making politics for the people.
     
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  18. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    There is no evidence of North Korean fighters other than the western machine repeating lies...

    Yes, North Korea is in cooperation with the Russians and they hold exercises together, just as exercises are held between NATO members, so the Russians hold exercises with the Belarusians, the Syrians under Assad, the Koreans, the Chinese and other partners...

    Russia literally has 5 ex-Soviet Muslim republics around it where they can easily find manpower. Uzbekistan+Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan together have 66 million inhabitants, less than Great Britain, and they have more births than Great Britain, Germany and France together, which have about 220 million inhabitants...

    North Korea or Yemen, which is vilified because of Gaza, sound much more manipulative to the public, than these countries, which many consider under Russia anyway...
    Every time North Korea is mentioned, new escalations are allowed because then it is "justified".

    Another thing, those 10,000 Koreans are not an advantage at all. Well, in Ukraine, 10,000+ thousand people die every week. Let's be honest, mercenaries exist on both sides and have existed since prehistoric times. Chechens, Belarusians, probably some troops from Syria, former Soviet countries are fighting for the Russians... For Ukraine, there are French troops, American special forces, British and various other volunteers... American (CIA) or British (MI6) snipers were at Euromaiden when "someone" was killing protesters 2013/14... The very fact that Zelensky, in the midst of the war, sent his best general, who posed a political danger to him, to the UK as an ambassador or something like that says that someone the other makes military plans and orders, and for that you need to have your troops on the ground, not only Ukrainian ones...
     
  19. Agnes McAllister

    Agnes McAllister Archangels

    Yes. They want us confused.
     
  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I think our views diverge little, if at all. No harm to tease things out. It reassures me to read that the worldview of someone I esteem corresponds so closely to my own.
     

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