Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I won't disagree with your statement, because if Russia advances into Europe, it will certainly give the lie to any claim by the Russians of self-defense. However, there is irrefutable evidence that the West broke its word with the disintegrating Soviet Union after an honourable and peaceable settlement had been made with Gorbachev in 1990. As of now, this present moment, it is the departing US Administration which has done a complete u-turn on its pre-election policies by facilitating direct missile attacks on Russian territory and the use of anti-personnel mines. If the situation escalates to what might well become an inevitable nuclear exchange, my point is that the present US Administration will bear the greatest responsibility. Just because satan is spurring on a particular party in a conflict doesn't mean he is not swinging his riding crop upon another. The bombers of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't listening to the Word of God, no differently to their German and Japanese opponents.
    And satan's biggest success at this time is in the Western-backed Jewish genocide of the Palestinians and Lebanese.

    Have Blessed Aiello's predictions been given official Church approval?
     
  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Arguably, it goes further back to the French Revolution. A huge persecution of Catholicism.

    The British are very keen for conflict, also (although I've read today that many of them have been sobered by that Russian missile attack on what seems to have been a colossal NATO arms dump-the explosions caused by a missile estimated at mach 11 speed at impact went on for at least three hours) and we know that Britain perpetrated the greatest ever persecution of Catholicism (Henry VIII could show Putin a thing or two in how to destroy churches and monasteries). The need for Chastisement isn't merely a modern development and history clearly shows the Mercy and Patience of God...but These might have limits.

    Please God, all the hatred and madness and the suffering it causes will finally end in mutual conversion, but it will require Divine Intervention at some point.
     
  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I only know that she was beatified by Benedict XVI in 2010. Whether this confirms her visions as authentic is somewhat controversial, but for me, it's hard to separate one thing from the other.
     
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  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I think there's a very high standard of authenticity required for Church approval. I don't think the sanctity of a person would automatically imply the visions of a saint are Church-approved.
     
  5. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Personally, I find it difficult to separate the two things because, if the visions were of demonic origin, she would have been an instrument of evil for years and even a stumbling block for many faithful. On the other hand, if they did not have a supernatural character, she would be a fraud. Either way, I believe her prophecies align with those of Fatima.
     
  6. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    Blessed Aiello isn't the only one having predicted an invasion of Europe by Russia, this is also in the messages of Garabandal (Russia will overwhelm a great part of the free world). Not to mention Sr Lucia of fatima - "Russia will again be the instrument of Chastisement if we do not obtain the conversion of that poor nation"
     
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  7. Basto

    Basto Powers

    PROFECY UNFOLDING: thousands of North Korea [communist] soldiers massing in Russia will soon start killing [Christians] in Ukraine
     
  8. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    Yes.
    I often wonder when God will put a stop to it all. If I was Himself; I'd end it all right now. He must be so patient and hopeful.
     
  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Sorry, Eric, I haven't been clear enough. I agree, there are a multitude of Church-approved prophecies that predict Russia will reach the Atlantic, some preceding Fatima. I have mentioned these in my posts, over the years, because I take great stock in them. For two main reasons; firstly, because the pieces on the board are increasingly falling into the positions one would expect for such eventualities; and secondly, and more importantly, because they have been approved by Mother Church. As with Fatima, in which many specific assertions of Our Lady turned out to be absolutely true. I am not, myself, prepared to grant the same authority to the predictions of Blessed Aiello, if they lack the same approval. I don't agree with the view stated that if her visions weren't entirely true it implies that they must be of demonic origin. It is possible that she was granted some inkling of the future, but her own interpretations might have been influenced by her knowledge of the known wickedness of Soviet Russia at the time...who knows, unless the Church has given Her opinion?

    Anyhow, I'm splitting hairs while Rome might be about to burn.
     
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  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It would certainly align with prophecy, if true. However, I'm reluctant to believe anything from an Administration that has continually lied about this conflict.
     
  11. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    God is only concerned with the salvation of as many souls as possible. Of course, through his omnipotence, he can also help us with our earthly needs at the same time.
    Suffering is used by God for so many things that our limited minds can only imagine. People can find Him through it, grow in faith, help others etc.
    God knows lucifer's plans, but not vice versa.
    God also defeats Satan by using his evil actions to bring about good.

    I can somehow understand why God can take his time (not really, but I'll put it this way) - every period of time here on earth is just the blink of an eye compared to eternity. But this blink of an eye decides the eternal whereabouts of the souls.

    (Nevertheless, I am impatient too, but I don't mean to say that you are impatiento_O)
     
  12. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    I wouldn't call that splitting hairs. Rather, I see it as relatively important with regard to one's own handling of various prophecies.
    I don't know how the information was communicated to the various seers (images or words?).
    But in most cases there will have been room for human interpretation.
    When receiving, recording and reflecting on the messages.
    We as readers also interpret.
    Only the core is probably always unmistakable - repent.
     
  13. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    This is important, I suppose you are referring to Elena Aiello? The English translation I have heard so often is "Russia with its secret armies". However, if it is "Russia with its secret weapons", that would make a lot more sense. Thank you, and also Blizzard, in particular, for this much needed clarification!
     
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  14. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I respect opposing opinions, but I believe that Sister Elena Aiello's descriptions of her visions only reaffirm what was already stated in Fatima: Russia will be the instrument of chastisement if we fail to achieve the conversion of this poor nation. This clearly has not yet happened, given the high abortion rates in the country (the altar of Moloch) and the restrictions on Catholic proselytism and apostolate. Moreover, the veneration of Mother Russia as an institution above the laws of the Church and contrary to the requests of Our Lady of Fatima strongly reminds me of the cult of the "Sacred Feminine" found in the goddesses of certain pagan religions.
     
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  15. Basto

    Basto Powers

    I confess that I also feel reluctant about the information from the American secret services for many years, in fact, I feel a lot, but do you remember when the information that 90,000 Russian troops on the border ready to invade Ukraine was Western fake news and propaganda?
     
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  16. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    True. Back then we were the good guys. The freedom loving Christian West as opposed to atheistic communist Russia.

    Alas how things have changed!

    And let’s remember that Malachi Martin said “salvation will come from the East “.

    And at Medjugorje in the 1980s Our Lady said “Russia will come to glorify God the most. The west has made material progress but has forgotten God”.

    But I’ll admit it’s all very puzzling. I guess time will tell.
     
  17. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Yes, the video you posted is an extract from the much longer video of his Q&A session at the Cambridge Union.

    Some of Judge Napolitano's guests are no friends of Catholicism. Their time on his show tends to be about 20 minutes long and they probably tailor their comments because he is a practicing Catholic. They're not so circumspect on other channels where they have more time to talk. Larry Johnson, for example, has a distorted view of God as revealed in Sacred Scripture. Jeffrey Sachs is consistent no matter who he's talking to. He's not right about everything but his heart is in the right place.
     
  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Stopped clock, etc....
     
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  19. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I believe Jeffrey Sachs is an appointee of the Vatican. That might not be a recommendation, nowadays, but the more I know of Prof. Sachs, the more I'm beginning to respect him. Any Jew that opposes Zionism deserves a hearing. That includes Bernie Sanders; and Prof. Sachs towers over the Senator in every way.
     
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  20. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Yes, he seems to be well liked in the Vatican. I see that as a mixed blessing. His areas of expertise are economics and geopolitics but I think his influence in the Vatican isn't restricted to those subjects. I have developed enormous respect for his integrity but he's not infallible and most of all he's not Catholic.
     
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