Does Pope Francis have blood on his hands?

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by garabandal, Mar 10, 2022.

  1. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    But don't get me wrong, I disagree very strongly with what Pope Francis implemented. There was also a Dominican Vaccinologist who was very pro-covid-vaxine. I can't remember his name but he may have influenced this policy adopted by Pope Francis. Again he (the Dominican Father) was in my opinion not well enough informed despite his day job.
     
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  2. Agnes McAllister

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    I feel Frances knows exactly what the vaccine is. Making excuses,because the truth is almost too much to bear, is normal. Soon we shall see. Only God can help us.
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Truth!
     
  4. InVeritatem

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    I am quite certain he has not one iota of knowledge. How could he when the vast majority of GPs haven't a clue either. As I say, the reason this is such a mess is that so very few people understand what is going on. Personally, this is my speculation, I think it was

    1. such a rushed job that the Pharma scientists chose the wrong epitope to put in the vaccine. They chose a protein on the surface of the virus which turned out to be not your run-of-the-mill inert protein, but one which is toxic to cells, one which can trigger apoptotic cell death, one which gets presented on the surface of the cell and then can trigger blood clotting. They thought it would be just a viral surface protein which would be inert and suffice to raise an immune response in people.

    2. They made the mistake of using mRNA (coding for the toxic protein ) and lipoparticles which meant that the spike went everywhere including into endothelial cells, got presented on the surface and triggered clotting etc.

    3. Karen Kingston pointed out that the lipids in the nanoparticle are toxic in themselves. I don't know that for sure. There may have been other toxic agents in the mix such as graphene oxide, adjuvents etc.

    4. They were not able to standardise the dose delivered. Batches with low mRNA payload were probably safe but provided no protection from the virus. Batches with way too much mRNA ended up causing strokes, myocarditis, autoimmune inflammation. It became a lottery.

    But none of this can be proven. Dr. Cole who had a pathology lab capable of detecting mRNA and spike protein in tissue samples has given up I have heard. Someone posted that recently.
     
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    As Catholics, we are not supposed to make rash judgments or try to attribute motives to others without full information.
     
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  6. InVeritatem

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    Is this directed to me?
     
  7. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    I am not attributing motives to anyone not even Big Pharma. I'm saying the whole rollout was done with good intentions but numerous errors were made. Now there may be a cover up, because everyone is in too deep.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

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    No it is not directed to you.
     
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  9. InVeritatem

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    But of course Big Pharma knew the risks. There is that screenshot from an FDA meeting where they showed Big Pharma's list of possible side effects. It's a long list including strokes, myocarditis, bells palsy, including DEATH. I must try to find it. This is the problem with Public Health: individual deaths are justified if the risk / benefit ratio is favourable at the population level.
     
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  10. Seagrace

    Seagrace Archangels

    The Pope's overreach in this regard was a terrible mistake. No matter what the science says, I thought we were supposed to listen to the Holy Spirit in everything we did. Did the Spirit not warn him? Did Pope Francis not hear this still, small voice? How could the Holy Father have gotten it so wrong?

    It's been almost 3 years since the vac nightmare began and I'm no closer to understanding why my Pope did what he did.
     
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  11. InVeritatem

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  12. Agnes McAllister

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    I'm sure it was directed at me. No worries. I say what I want so people will just say no to this evil being pushed down our throats.
     
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  13. InVeritatem

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    How could Pharma have gotten it so wrong? Human catastrophic error. When the stakes were enormous. IMO. But their whole agenda is morally wrong anyway because of their use of cell lines from aborted babies. And of course as I say they knew the side effects and deaths which were sure to affect many, many people given the scale of the forced vaccination even in a best case scenario of a "safe and effective" vaccine. But it went catastrophically wrong. But surely the medical profession could see it was going horribly wrong from the outset? Yes, I can't explain that. Mass psychosis ...
     
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  14. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    You’re not wrong. This pope was and is working hand in glove with global elitist population controllers behind both Covid and the vaccine. The vaccine wasn’t a result of Covid; Covid was released to scare people into taking a population control vaccine. The vaccine was always the goal, Covid was just a way of accomplishing that goal.
     
  15. Not to mention Pope Francis is now promoting Climate Change by the Globalists, is that a coincidence too? Is it because he is not well informed again?
     
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  16. padraig

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  17. sorry to bring this up, but are you not attributing motives to someone without full knowledge of their thought processes? It is easy for all of us to sit in judgement of the posts we read, but we do not know the hearts of the people that write them, only God knows.
     
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  18. A very sobering event happened to someone who runs a news aggregation site in the U.S about Catholic events. The person that runs the site would post very insulting headlines mostly about liberal clergy members. The person had a stroke on September 7th, the eve of the Church's celebration of the Virgin Mary's birthday. I found his site very distasteful and incomprehensible because of the insults, but infrequently I would look at it for information. I have prayed for the site owner and have examined my conscience about my sins about criticizing clergy.
     
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  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I prefer to call it a plandemic.
     
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  20. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The decision to take any medicine or procedure is a private decision that should be made between a patient and his or her doctor. Based on medical history and needs.

    The Pope had absolutely no right nor the authority to interfere in people's private medical decisions with regard to 'vaccines'.

    Pontificating that it was a moral obligation was tantamount to coercion. He has a responsibility before God for that decision putting many Catholics in conflict with family members and also persuading millions to take it. Therefore, the Pope has to live with the consequences of his actions, although no one knows the exact number of people who followed his advice and subsequently suffered injury or death but the numbers would be substantial. God does know.

    He got involved in something he should not have got involved in, that is in the personal relationship between a patient and his or her doctor.
     
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