Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Praying for your whole family to stay healthy and escape this illness. I think Catholics can have a funeral Mass with just family present. Not sure about the burial, but I think that is okay. All guidelines are different based on locations. A quick call to a nearby funeral home can provide answers.
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The problem is nobody knows. The Italians would not consider it merely a typical 'flu. Having said that, the fatality rate in Italy from the 'flu of 2016-17 was also very high. I know people who went to Rome in the December and returned with a nasty, vicious 'flu which was not too unlike how COVID-19 is being described. It included a wracking, repetitive and persistent dry cough. The loved ones of the more than twenty thousand Italians who died that year might be disappointed that their dead received much less protection than is being offered currently.

    What is really driving this is the media. I think, since most of them are leftist/liberal, that the media are part of a propaganda war being waged by the Chinese Communists in conjunction with the virus. The Vatican diplomatic service are, at best, collaborators with the Chinese communists. I wonder how many fellow-travellers have inveigled themselves into the media and the Church? I think we'd be flabbergasted if we knew.
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    God bless you Donna. Stay safe.
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  4. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Thank you, Donna. God bless you. As for myself, I'll be back at Upstate tomorrow, one of the key centers for the virus in the Syracuse area. I was told today that I will not be given a mask when I go on the floors because chaplains aren't considered front-line personnel.:censored: My beautiful wife, Geralyn, is making homespun masks.

    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to you.
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  5. padraig said:
    If the virus has the same effect as the Flu all the Governments and their expert advisors (including the White House) have gone totally Criminally Insane for taking the actions they have taken and should be hauled out and shot.

    The regular flu for this year, infecting side by side w/ the Coronavirus, is said to be very bad....causing a predicted near 50,000 deaths they say.....and yet, only crickets from the usual critics about that epidemic. Are people who die from COVID-19 somehow different from these others who remain hidden OR is it again dependent upon how the horns of the worldwide media tell the story and for what underlying motivations????:

    Why such massive disruptions at this particular time when the regular annual flus are of no concern??

    Did the world wide NWO DS, being defeated in their globalist goals by Trump's policies and successes and knowing this would only grow if he is re-elected, w/assistance from the Commie world of China want to.....

    >End POTUS rally(s)?
    >End POTUS econ gains?
    >End POTUS unemployment gains?
    >End POTUS [A, B, C, D, ……]?
    [weaken (him) prior to Pres._elec?]
    >Delay US/China trade negotiations?
    [China prefers Biden[+VP] as P?]
    >Shelter [Biden] public appearances?
    >Shelter [Biden] debate(s)?
    >Push new/revised Pres elec_2020 > vote by mail? [unsecure]
    >Push [D] ‘wish list’ [unrelated] items COVID-19 Bill [voting amendments]?

    What is the mathematical probability this occurs [the ‘time bomb’ explodes] at the exact point in time that allows for maximum damage [above events] prior to the Pres_elec?
    Outside of standard deviation?
    [Mueller failed]
    [Impeachment failed]

    >Why was it critically important impeachment be rushed in the House?
    [MSM[D party]/Hollywood narrative(s) failed]
    party leading nominee established [super Tues.] prior to lock-down [take-over]? [Sanders ELIMINATED FOR_Biden_FRONT]

    Occam's razor simply states that of any given set of explanations for an event occurring, the simplest one is most likely the correct one.

    "Q" suggestions!!!!
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  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    There is a wide divergence in the fatality rate between certain countries. Compare Italy with Germany (also with an ageing population). 10% fatality relative to confirmed cases compared with approximately 0.4%.

    Italy, Iran and Spain stand out somewhat from the rest-I distrust strongly any figures from China which has already been caught lying about this, and not just the once.
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  7. Mario

    Mario Powers

    This situation does help Joe Biden in the absence of debates. He has a great smile, but partly due to age, is not as quick on his feet as President Trump. The Democrat party will put the screws to Sanders, though personally he might have been worse.

    If covid-19 persists, it hurts the President. However, a prolonged shutdown might truly result in a burst debt bubble that cannot be re-inflated. In 2008 we came within 1 day of such a crisis. Will we escape it this time? We have to realize that the worldwide monetary system we depend on can only function by continuing to inflate the debt bubble. Puncture the bubble and the world economy goes down the tubes. If that happens, Trump is a goner! Prayers!

    Repent and believe the Gospel!
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  8. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Iran's figures are not to be trusted as well.

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Prayers Terry. Are you sure you could not get a mask like one for painters at a DIY store?
  10. DesertStar7

    DesertStar7 Guest

    Supposedly the Communist Party of China is considering removing President Xi.

    I sure hope this is true.
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  11. Huh?

    COVID-19 deaths worldwide as of March 24, 2020, by country

    Published by John Elflein, Mar 24, 2020
    As of March 24, 2020, the outbreak of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) had spread to six continents, and approximately 16,565 people had died after contracting the respiratory virus. Around 6,077 of these deaths occurred in Italy.

    compared to:

    Annual global flu deaths higher than previously estimated


    As influenza activity has begun to pick up this winter, scientists working on global influenza surveillance increased their estimates of how many people worldwide die annually from the flu.

    A study published Dec. 13 in The Lancet estimates that 291,000 to 646,000 people die from respiratory complications related to the flu each year. Previous annual estimates ranged from 250,000 to 500,000 deaths.

    In the United States, the CDC estimates that about 12,000 to 56,000 people die from flu complications and about 140,000 to 710,000 people are hospitalized due to the flu.

    wondering too....from the beginning of this "novel" Chinese flu we were told that there were too many unknowns.....doctors didn't know what treatments would work and so the community preventions were emphasized. But, because of that were the usual treatments for the annual flu denied to patients who tested positive for COVID-19 and waited for symptoms to appear since doctors didn't know if those usual treatments might be harmful to this "new" COVID-19 thing? I mean it's just now that doctors are giving not only the Chloroquine but also other regular flu treatment and Tami-flu or Relenza, or Rapivab etc. IOW, a mixture. Could the number of deaths reported and worsened symptoms that evolved into pneumonia, esp. in the elderly and other compromised patients have been perhaps treated anyway, in this COVID-19 flu earlier, w/at least those treatments that could have effected the early symptoms, lessened them long term and prevented the later most serious symptoms?? Did more people die while not being treated as usual while the medical community waited for the vaccine yet to be developed??
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  12. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh Terry stay safe. Praying. God bless Geralyn.
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    True enough, but if they're lying they're not doing a very good job of it.
  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This is extremely prescient! So scary to read paragraph highlighted above.
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  15. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    "We are the church". At least you used the small "c". Here's another group fond of the catch-all "we are Church" phrase:
    They haven't gone away. It appears now that they have fellow travellers very highly placed in the Church.

    Anyone seeking or expecting titles or special recognition for serving the Church is unsuitable for any prominent role within the Church, ministerial or not. In my experience, the women who do most to serve the Church are the least likely to demand reward, ordination or titles. They take seriously what Jesus said:

    "Be careful not to parade your uprightness in public to attract attention; otherwise you will lose all reward from your Father in heaven."
    Serving and pleasing God is their motivation. Using them to further the agenda of groups like "We are Church" is devious and disgraceful - giving old Mrs. Murphy an award or a title for her years of service while lining up little Greta Activist as her "Ministererial" replacement.

    Our priests are not ordained to minister to themselves. If excluding the faithful from Mass and the Sacraments isn't clericalism I don't know what is. Certainly not sexual abuse of the vulnerable despite how that Satanic practice has been spun.

    Not that it matters now anyway because all the pandering to Caesar came to nothing with today's announcement. "All places of worship are to restrict numbers" could mean whatever any anti-Catholic busybody wants it to mean.
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  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    You reckon? Scroll down the attached to "Inspiration for Spiritual Reflection":
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    Carol55 Ave Maria

  18. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Fear not, Padraig. My amazing wife is making masks from Kirby vacuum cleaner bags. Leave it to Geralyn; she said her masks will be as effective as N-95s. If she started a business she'd probably make millions.

    I live in my head, but my beautiful wife gets the job done. All those ladies who left home to try to break through the "glass ceiling" of corporate men: Geralyn doesn't need to break it- she sits on it!:LOL::ROFLMAO:

    Safe in Father's Arms!
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  19. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    May God help and protect you Mario. You and Geralyn both. I suppose wearing gloves in out of the question if you will be bringing Holy Communion to the people you visit. It might be a good idea to have a few different sets of clothes put aside for when you visit the sick and change them immediately you get home. Also, I keep disinfectant wipes in my car and wipe the steering wheel, door handle, handbrake, radio controls, and all the other knobs and levers every time I get into the car.
  20. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

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