August 10, 2024 Cause for Piccarreta Resumes

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  1. Rome Makes Statement On Piccarreta Cause

    August 12, 2024 by sd

    Communication of the Postulator Msgr. Paolo Rizzi about the Cause of Beatification
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    Rome, August 10, 2024
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    8/12/2024 The nihil obstat for the resumption of the Cause of Beatification of the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta has been issued. This was announced by the Postulator of the Cause, Msgr. Paolo Rizzi, in a note dated August 10, 2024, the text of which is published here.
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    Cause of Beatification of Luisa Piccarreta
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    The Cause of Beatification of the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta has never been closed, but has always been pending at the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints, which had temporarily suspended its canonical process. In fact, the spirituality, thought, and writings of the Servant of God had been submitted to the study of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, which in 2019 pointed out that the writings presented some ambiguities of a theological, Christological, and anthropological nature; ambiguities that, while not doctrinal errors in themselves, required further evaluation. Through the support of a theologian expert in mysticism, the Postulation’s clarifying responses to the aforementioned findings enabled the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith to conclude that in the writings and thought of the Servant of God there are no statements that are blatantly in contrast with the doctrine of the Church. Thus in June 2024 the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith issued the nihil obstat for the resumption of the Cause, which was formally notified by the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints to this Postulation on July 8, 2024.
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    According to the instructions of the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints, the continuation of the canonical path, already in place, must necessarily be accompanied by the publication of the typical and critical edition of Luisa Piccarreta’s Writings by the the actor of the Cause, the Public Association of the Faithful “Luisa Piccarreta-P.F.D.V” of Corato and under the supervision of the Archbishop of Trani-Barletta-Bisceglie. Such an edition should be accompanied by a relevant “Introduction and related notes” which, for the purpose of clarifying certain expressions that are easily conducive to misleading and erroneous interpretations of the Christian message, highlight the importance of the Lord’s merciful and gratuitous love, which in some pages of the Writings is obscured due to the historical context in which they were drafted, a context marked by an obsessive view of God’s justice and the consequent mysticism of reparation for sins. This edition will be the only one officially recognized by ecclesiastical authority. All Divine Will Groups will have to refer to it in order to correct harmful forms of spirituality, widespread in some Groups and brought about by a distorted reading of the Writings of the Servant of God, by their written dissemination or even by their arbitrary manipulation and translation into other languages.
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    Those who truly care about the Cause of Beatification are called to decisively orient or reorient their devotion to the Servant of God in the perspective of the mystery of glory: the cross is to be looked at, contemplated and welcomed in the resplendent mystery of the resurrection of Christ, victor over evil, sin and death. Reading Luisa’s Writings, everyone should “feel encouraged to pay more attention to the author’s intention, in greater faithfulness to the teaching of the Church and above all in the awareness that the Divine Will is the Heavenly Father’s merciful appeal addressed to the free will of the men and women of our times, and never a threat to be hurled against the world corrupted by sin” (Msgr. Leonardo D’Ascenzo, Archbishop of Trani-Barletta Bisceglie, Communication No. 4 regarding the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta, March 4, 2020).
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    While objectively recognizing that so many Divine Will Groups have implemented in this direction a decisive and evident path of ecclesiality, it is indispensable and incumbent on those who have not yet done so to strive ” to anchor the reading of these writings in the doctrine of the Church and in a dignified conduct of life, making a balanced and respectful missionary proclamation spring from the doctrine of the Divine Will, a proclamation which has been harmoniously inserted into the pastoral activity of the local Churches” (Msgr. Leonardo D’Ascenzo, ibid.).
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    With this in mind, it seems most appropriate for bishops to recognize and admit into their ecclesiastical circumscriptions only those Divine Will Groups that meet the aforementioned requirements. After their bishop’s approval, these groups can obtain the affiliation to the Family of the Divine Will, which was established by the Public Association of the Faithful “Luisa Piccarreta-P.F.D.V. “ of Corato, a service structure under the supervision of the pro-tempore Archbishop of Trani-Barletta-Bisceglie, whose ecclesial figure the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints has always indicated as the official reference for those who follow the spirituality and message of the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta throughout the world.
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    Rome, August 10, 2024
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The whole thing is just so very,very odd. I never heard anything like it before. On the one hand they acknowledge theological irregularities and on the other hand they say they will go ahead with proceedings to consider making her a saint.

    It is a bit like a mechanic telling you that the brakes on your car are not working but that it alright to drive.

    Really weird.
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Agree. I am giving it a hard pass.
     
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  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    They say there are no doctrinal errors in her teachings so she isn't a heretic.

    She already is a servant of God so it is clear she lived a life of virtue.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The situation somewhat resembles the Divine Mercy prohibitions, which were based on analysis of faulty translations. Likewise, poor translations and over zealous and false interpretation of the Divine will message by devotees may have obscured the simple truth found in the our Father - thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Because of faulty translations from the original Polish, St. Faustina Kowalska's writings were considered doctrinally suspect, and so the Holy See suppressed the Divine Mercy devotion arising from those writings for about twenty years. Once the translations were corrected, the ban was lifted.
     
  6. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Principalities

    It takes humility and an open heart and mind to accept one's error in judgement.


    “Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.”
    Jesus said to Luisa: “My daughter, as Adam sinned, God made him the promise of the future Redeemer. Centuries passed, but the promise did not fail, and the generations had the good of Redemption. Now, as I came from Heaven and formed the Kingdom of Redemption, before departing for Heaven, I made another promise, more solemn, of the Kingdom of My Will; and this was in the ‘Our Father.’

    “And so as to give it more value, and to obtain It more quickly, I made this formal promise in the solemnity of My prayer, praying the Father to let His Kingdom come, which is the Divine Will on earth as It is in Heaven. I placed My very Self at the head of this prayer, knowing that such was His Will, and that, prayed by Me, He would deny Me nothing; more so, since I prayed with His very Will, and I asked for something that was wanted by My Father Himself.

    “And after I had formed this prayer before My Celestial Father, certain that the Kingdom of My Divine Will upon earth would be granted to Me, I taught it to My Apostles, that they might teach it to the whole world, so that one might be the cry of all: ‘Your Will be done, on earth as It is in Heaven.’ A promise more sure and solemn I could not make. Centuries are like one single point for Us, but Our words are accomplished acts and facts.

    “My very praying to the Celestial Father: ‘Let It come—let Your Kingdom come; Your Will be done on earth as It is in Heaven,’ meant that with My coming upon earth the Kingdom of My Will was not established in the midst of creatures; otherwise I would have said: ‘My Father, let Our Kingdom, that I have already established on earth, be confirmed, and let Our Will dominate and reign.’ Instead, I said: ‘Let It come.’ This meant that It must come, and creatures must await It with that certainty with which they awaited the future Redeemer, because there is My Divine Will, bound and committed, in those words of the ‘Our Father’; and when It binds Itself, whatever It promises is more than certain. More so, since everything was prepared by Me; nothing else was needed but the manifestation of My Kingdom—and this I am doing.

    “Do you think that My giving you so many truths about My Fiat is only to give you simple news? No, no; it is because I want everyone to know that Its Kingdom is near, and to know Its beautiful prerogatives, so that all may love—may yearn to enter, to live in a Kingdom so holy, full of happiness and of all goods. Therefore, what seems difficult to you is easy for the power of Our Fiat, because It knows how to remove all difficulties, and to conquer everything—the way It wants, and when It wants.”

    Book of Heaven spiritual diary of
    the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta
    Volume 23, February 5, 1928
     
  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am, as well. UGH
     
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  8. Mario

    Mario Powers

    We all have our druthers. Mine is Carmelite spirituality. May those who have found in Luisa's writings an inspiration to grow closer to God, continue to do so.:):coffee:
     
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  9. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    My Mother is really into it, it speaks to her. So she was pretty excited when she saw the news come out. Which is funny because she is a person who likes to force her will. So it's wild watching what happens as she practices it, God will often shut her down. That being said I enjoy praying the rounds of creation. Which is essentially "I thank you, I praise you, and I love you for *insert something*. It's really uplifting.
     
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  10. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    This wording is very odd.

    Apparently the nihil obstat is limited to her Cause of Beatification, not her actual writings.

    So this is not actually a Vatican commentary regarding the content of the supposed Divine Will messages but simply a statement that the author lived a life of virtue and her Cause may proceed.

    Meanwhile this document warns AGAINST both current interpretations of her writings, as well as the behavior of some of her proponents.

    The very grave warnings about the current translations and content of her writings are still in effect.

    So given this equivocal document, the best course of action for the MOG forum is to continue our status quo, @padraig.

    No more DW threads for now.
     
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  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You are correct. It’s limited to her cause.
     
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  12. It is proved again and again how our preconceived ideas, prejudices, preferences and biases act as powerful blinders to see the whole picture of any issue:

    FROM THE TEXT POSTED FIRST:
    In fact, the spirituality, thought, and writings of the Servant of God had been submitted to the study of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, which in 2019 pointed out that the writings presented some ambiguities of a theological, Christological, and anthropological nature; ambiguities that, while not doctrinal errors in themselves, required further evaluation. Through the support of a theologian expert in mysticism, the Postulation’s clarifying responses to the aforementioned findings enabled the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith to conclude that in the writings and thought of the Servant of God there are no statements that are blatantly in contrast with the doctrine of the Church. Thus in June 2024 the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith issued the nihil obstat for the resumption of the Cause, which was formally notified by the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints to this Postulation on July 8, 2024.​

    Not sure what part of that sentence supports that this conclusion of Doctrine of the Faith applies ONLY to the Cause of Luisa.
    Please clarify.

    What people distort from the original approved texts and doctrines .... is as common as all that has been done in the name of the Gospel through the centuries .... that doesn't justify any opposition to the Gospel or to Jesus Christ... [just a paralell here]

    But then, if we don't like and won't accept the goodness of a doctrine that the Church -even today's Church authorities- are saying that is not against our faith .... well, if we give it a pass, will only be a "hard pass"

    God bless each one of us, and grant us a minimum of humility to have less trouble on the day of the Warning.
     
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  13. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    A big enough equivocation to drive a tractor trailer through. And another typical passive aggressive post from a DW proponent.

    We maintain the current status quo on DW threads - no more new ones, no new posts to old ones.

    Until more clarity emerges it simply will not be a topic of discussion at MOG.

    If clarity does emerge from authoritative sources, this policy may change.
     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes, let the smoke clear. If it is indeed true God Himself will defend it

    If not.....
     
  15. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    After watching Fr. Mawdsley’s videos about her and her writings there’s nothing the current regime in Rome could say or do which would change my mind on this issue.

    Maybe in the future under a holy orthodox pope and an orthodox college of cardinal advisors…
     
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