God speaks

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by kathy k, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. Thanks for your response, Verne.

    I will offer you my thoughts on this, since you asked for them, and you don't have to respond here, it is up to you. I offer you what I see for you to ponder if you so wish.

    First I would ask you, do you have a spiritual director? This should be very important to be able to confirm and discern the words you say you receive.

    Second, if the words received "flee Sodom and Gomorrah" were truly words from God, then you probably don't want to rationalize them but to OBEY them.

    This line that you wrote, Verne, is not necessarily true at all. It might be true ALWAYS in the spiritual sense, but not necessarily in the material or physical sense, and much less if you've got a warning to flee a place. Then it is up to you to obey in humility.
    God WILL NOT PROTECT US FROM DISASTER ALWAYS. God didn't protect Jesus, or the martyrs of twenty centuries.

    God did protect the Jesuits in Hiroshima, probably for God's good reasons -as a clear message of the importance of living out the messages of Our Blessed MOther.
    But to assume that God will protect you and your family, anyway, from whatever disaster comes your way, might be reckless IF you have truly received a personal warning about fleeing.
    Trust, yes, but with OBEDIENCE. This is the way to be safe with God.

    Now if you are not certain of the origin of the words received after Holy Communion, then it is fair that you go by your reasoning in your reflection. But that means that you trust God over and beyond what the outcome of things might be for you and your family, not because you take for granted that disaster is not going to hit you.

    I offer this for your reflection because we are heading towards very difficult times. And although it is true that there are many promises of miracles and protection, there are also clear statements that the good will be taken together with the evil ones. We need to be aware of this and make our decisions based on truth, not on ideals.

    Also, trusting God is not about counting on being taken down from the Cross or spared the Cross -whatever color it has for us- but trusting God is about TRUST IN SPITE OF, like Job says, "Even if you kill me I will trust in You" Job 13:15
     
  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers


    WCWTS, have you ever read all of Verne's messages? What you try to explain is all in his messages GSWYL http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen All who are in the state of grace are under God's protection as his and many others messangers confirm. This does not mean that those under His protection will not suffer or be persecuted. It means that nothing can touch you that is not permmited by God for a greater good, thus you are under his protection from the evil one doing what he wants. I suggest everyone to read his full messages and you will see that God is indeed speaking to Verne IMHO.
     
  3. Thanks for the clarification, Fatima. I'm only talking about the two last messages that Verne posted here.

    Certainly we are utterly safe in God's Hand, no matter what happens, and He will protect us from the evil one if we allow God to protect us -that is if we consent, want His protection. No doubt about that.

    Maybe I took too literally the words "flee Sodom and Gomorrah" and it was not meant in a literal way. That will be for Verne to discern. And since he asked for opinion I dared to give mine. As I mentioned in my first response to Verne, I had just read the message about the sinful city to be purified under water. So if my comment was out of place, Verne, I apologize and please, forget it.
     
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  4. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    My immediate response to Verne's question was the same as yours.

    I thought of the sweet evangelical Christian woman who told me that God woke her up from sleep and told her to get out of New Orleans. It was the night before the first levy failed. I said, "So, you got out of bed and got out of town?" She said, "No. I should have. Spent some time on my roof, and weeks in that awful superdome. Should have listened. But isn't God good to take care of me like that?"

    If I got a message to flee, I would carefully discern it (quickly!), and I pray that I would have the courage to act.
     
  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    AMEN!
     
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  6. Verne dagenais

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    No need to apologize. Thank you all for your responses. What you said holds great merit. I just needed insight. Everything said is very good. Thanks again. Ezekiel 16:49-52 lists the sins of sodom. I have had problems with some of those sins. I also think God was warning me not to look back and return to those sins. I think remember lots wife is important. She looked back and remember what happened. Thanks for all your replies, it gives me much to . ponder. Also, i think God sometimes gives us personal messages because he knows we have struggles,he wants to help us and remind us he cares about all our problems and answers our prayers
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  7. Kathy,
    Eight years ago in prayer our Lord told me to 'get off the coast'. I did, with my husband and three children. It took tons of trust and a lot of tears and still to this day I wonder if I was right to do it. I left behind my other kids and grandkids and their families and our friends. Moving at 45 sucks! Now I'm 53 and it still sucks. No one wants to come visit us in Montana! But, now I know others who our Lord called away from the coast also. It wasn't a matter for me to discern. I told God that if this was of him that he had to move my husband's heart, because he was not on the same page spiritually with me and it was going to take a miracle. Well,,,by jove--He did it!
    That should be miracle enough! Some days my mind gets going and I think, "If my children and grandchildren are going to die on the coast Lord, I want to be there with them! Please!" Then it comes to me that MAYBE...its not all ME,ME,ME.... maybe, its one of the children I brought with me who now likes Montana...and wants to be a priest, or the other one who is an incredible problem solver and lover of humanity.... or maybe those on the coast will come here....who knows. It all comes down to trust...I will take responsibility. I will say thank you. I will say, I trust you Lord, where ever I am. Thy will be done...
     
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  8. garabandal

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    When the crisis comes some of your family will want to come to live with you in Montana.

    Start preparing the rooms;)
     
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  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Unless this happens.................................and #7 will affect me too!

    A MASSIVE ERUPTION AT THE YELLOWSTONE SUPERVOLANO
    Around the globe, there are some volcanoes that are so absolutely massive in size that they are referred to as “supervolcanoes”.
    One of these supervolcanoes is in the United States. The following facts about the Yellowstone supervolcano come from one of my previous articles
    #1 A full-scale eruption of Yellowstone could be up to 1,000 times more powerful than the eruption of Mount St. Helens in 1980.
    #2 A full-scale eruption of Yellowstone would spew volcanic ash 25 miles up into the air.
    #3 The next eruption of Yellowstone seems to be getting closer with each passing year. Since 2004, some areas of Yellowstone National Park have risen by as much as 10 inches.
    #4 There are approximately 3,000 earthquakes in the Yellowstone area every single year.
    #5 In the event of a full-scale eruption of Yellowstone, virtually the entire northwest United States will be completely destroyed.
    #6 A massive eruption of Yellowstone would mean that just about everything within a 100 mile radius of Yellowstone would be immediately killed.
    #7 A full-scale eruption of Yellowstone could also potentially dump a layer of volcanic ash that is at least 10 feet deep up to 1,000 miles away.
    #8 A full-scale eruption of Yellowstone would cover virtually the entire midwest United States with volcanic ash. Food production in America would be almost totally wiped out.
    #9 The “volcanic winter” that a massive Yellowstone eruption would cause would radically cool the planet. Some scientists believe that global temperatures would decline by up to 20 degrees.
    #10 America would never be the same again after a massive Yellowstone eruption. Some scientists believe that a full eruption by Yellowstone would render two-thirds of the United States completely uninhabitable.
    #11 Scientists tell us that it is not a matter of “if” Yellowstone will erupt but rather “when” the next inevitable eruption will take place.
     
  10. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Fatima,
    It has been awhile, I think it was 2008, Our Lord asked people to pray specific prayers and offerings for the mitigation, alleviation of a natural cloud over a U.S. city. It was in a message to Anna Marie of the Green
    Scapular. I thought a volcano but I am not sure geographically of a volcano near a city in our country. I see by your Yellowstone list, closeness of a city to the volcano doesn't make it false.
     
  11. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Another messenger was told about God Speaks Will You Listen at Daughters of the Lamb. com. A
    pdf link was shared in the message, see it in the DOTL link.

    + + +

    HOLY FAMILY REFUGE: 2015 MESSAGES

    1/17/15

    God the Father asked that the book “God Speaks Will You Listen” be made available to all. If possible, please read this free online book in order to understand that we have just moved from Revelations Chapter 12 to Chapter 13. This book given by God the Father explains everything happening in these end times.

    Click the link below to access a free online copy of the book

    God Speaks Will You Listen

    Come Holy Trinity, Holy Family, and St. Michael with God’s words through Heaven, 1/15/15

    My beloved son, this is Jesus of love and mercy. Thanks for all the suffering you and all My remnant children have been offering up to their God. There will be many souls saved through all the suffering being offered. Continue to offer all the sufferings of the world to your God and My God. Ask all of the people who read these messages to offer up all their sufferings and joys to God and all the blessings that He is giving to the world at this time.

    My God and your God is very sick of all the sins of abortion and the killings done by the leaders of the one world people. The majority of all the killings are being set up and caused by the Masons and the one world leaders. The majority of the people are going along with all the sins as long as it is not affecting them. My children you must stand up for the Ten Commandments on which your country was founded and the church has taught from the beginning. As I have told you no country will stand for long without following the Ten Commandments of God. God’s hand is already falling on America and the whole world. Be ready to see your souls the way Heaven sees them. My Mother will speak.

    My most beloved children and son. There is not much to be said anymore. It all has to be felt and seen with My children’s own eyes to change. Sorry it has to be this way and get this bad, but it is the majority of My children’s choice to listen to all the evil leadership in the world. Love, Mother, on this sad day in the history of the world. I bless you all in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen


    http://www.daughtersofthelamb.com/#!holyfamilyrefuge/c1zcy
     
  12. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I had not heard of these messages before, so I can't speak to them. However, it is good to see they are promoting GSWYL messages to Verne and Cletus. GSWYL is one reference I feel will be very important to have printed out and in hand during the times ahead.
     
  13. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Fatima,

    When you check the link, there are several seers with different names.

    I have to get up the nerve to ask a question about God Speaks Will You Listen. I bet I am way off, my
    fear to ask.
     
  14. Verne dagenais

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  16. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Do not be afraid to ask a question. If I can help let me know. I was surprised by this message from this website also.
    Thanks,
    Verne
     
  17. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    I do not know how to paste messages from websites. But I have not reread the book gswyl for years, but today I opened it and read 08/15/07 and was blown away with what I read. Thanks for all your prayers. One thing for sure I cannot believe it was myself that wrote down those words. I know I today would not be able to do such a thing. God sure works in mysterious ways.
     
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  18. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    08/15/07

    My son read Ezechiel 3:17: Son of man, I have made thee a watchman to the

    house of Israel: and thou shalt hear the word out of my mouth and shalt tell it them from

    me. My son all of my faithful are called to be watchman to the house of Israel, which is

    today my Church. The rot, confusion, and deception in my church is reaching epidemic

    proportions. Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and

    light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Woe to you that are wise

    in your own eyes, and prudent in your own conceits. Isaias 5:20,21. The lukewarmness

    and pride is leading many souls astray. Many bishops and priests are more concerned

    with political correctness and not offending parishioners. Many bishops and priests are

    more concerned with monetary collections than the salvation of souls. No man can serve

    two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other: or he will sustain the one

    and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. Mathew 6:24. The

    lukewarmness of my church is hastening the justice of my Father. For my people perish

    for lack of knowledge. Where are the voices crying out against sin? Why are people not

    filling the confessionals? Because many of my shepherds are lukewarm and neither hot

    or cold, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest I am rich and

    made wealthy and have need of nothing: and knowest not that thou art wretched and

    miserable and poor and blind and naked. Apocalypse 3:16,17. Many of my priests have

    succumbed to the dragon of Apocalypse 12:4 and have fallen from my grace. My son the

    persecution of my faithful Catholics will come from: the followers of the man of sin,

    lukewarm Catholics, and apostate protestants. For I am the same yesterday, today, and

    forever. Hebrews 13:8. When an antipope sits in the chair of St. Peter, lukewarm

    Catholics will follow his false teachings. Those of my faithful Catholics will be

    persecuted by those who follow this antipope. Those protestants who are deceived by

    Satan into believing my Catholic Church is the antichrist, will also persecute my faithful

    Catholics, with the rise of this antipope. The hordes of hell will try and crush my church.

    Only those who are living in the humility of my divine will with my divine life in their

    souls, will survive the persecution and deception to come. But, woe to those who

    persecute my church. For you are truly persecuting me. God will not be mocked. For our

    God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:29. Then you will truly understand the warnings

    given by my Blessed Mother Mary at Fatima, Akita, and through the many messengers in

    your age.

    And the earth is infected by the inhabitants thereof: because they have

    transgressed the laws, they have changed the ordinance, they have broken the everlasting

    covenant. Therefore shall a curse devour the earth: and the inhabitants thereof shall sin.

    And therefore they that dwell therein shall be mad: and few men shall be left. Isaias

    24:5,6. My son, these words are being fulfilled before your eyes. Therefore, with

    breaking shall the earth be broken, with crushing shall the earth be crushed, with

    trembling shall the earth be moved. Isaias 24:19. My commandments are trodden under

    the foot of men. My commandments are despised by the mouth of men. Mankind is

    attempting to rebuild the tower of Babel. But I the Lord prophesy to you: I will once

    again confound the tongues of the wicked and bring to destruction this false tower. Those

    who use their eyes, ears, mouth, hands, and feet for evil will be cut off from among their

    brethren, if no repentance is done. Woe to those who allow the seduction of evil to

    penetrate their souls and engage in the sins of the flesh. For we must all be manifested

    before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the

    body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil. 2 Cor. 5:10. My people, you

    will be judged by the sins you commit with your bodily members. If you die in this state,

    you will be cast into hell both body and soul to suffer eternally. Do you doubt my word?

    Do you scoff at my words? Read Numbers 16:31-33. And immediately as he had made

    an end of speaking, the earth broke asunder under their feet. And opening her mouth,

    devoured them with their tents and all their substance. And they went down alive into

    hell, the ground closing upon them: and they perished from among the people. And the

    beast was taken and with him the false prophet who wrought signs before him, wherewith

    he seduced them who received the character of the beast and adored his image. These two

    were cast alive into the pool of fire, burning with brimstone. Apocalypse 19:20. And the

    smoke of their torments shall ascend up forever and ever: neither shall they rest day nor

    night, who have adored the beast and whoever receiveth the character of his name.

    Apocalypse 14:11.

    This evil, sinful generation will face my justice and purification. The time is short.

    Open your eyes you blind! Open your ears you deaf! Open your hearts you cold and

    lukewarm! For the Lord of Hosts cometh to do battle and rid his creation of all that is not

    of God: the unclean, the ungodly, and the lukewarm. Are you amongst those my people?

    Do not presume on my mercy. My messengers, my son’s Mother Mary, and my son are

    repeatedly warning you. The trumpets will soon blow! Repent today, for tomorrow you

    may wake up in hell! Put on the armor of God now! Do not wait for the battle to worsen

    or you will not have my protection. The winepress of the wrath of God is overflowing

    and my remnant is being purified to render honor and glory in my name. Go forward in

    the power and spirit of Elias to confront the modern prophets of Baal and proclaim the

    Lord God almighty, creator of heaven and earth, hath sent thee as his mouthpiece.

    Watchman, the city is surrounded by the enemy. Raise your trumpet and sound the

    message throughout the land! The day of the Lord is at hand. Do my will not your own.

    Save your soul and souls of your family by my grace and Spirit. I will be with thee

    through the battle. For the Lord God almighty is a jealous God and will protect, shield,

    and comfort his own. Woe to those who follow the spirit of this age for they will be cast

    down with Satan and his hordes! Study, ponder, and read my holy word. Let my Spirit

    dispel the darkness of this age.

    Read Ezechiel 14:21: For thus saith the Lord: Although I shall send in upon

    Jerusalem my four grievous judgments, the sword and the famine and the mischievous

    beats and the pestilence, to destroy out of it man and beast, and read Apocalypse 6:4-8. I,

    the Lord God changeth not. I will use the same punishments as I used on my house of

    Israel and described in the Apocalypse. These same judgments are coming to this sinful

    and evil generation. But those who are consecrated to me and obedient to my

    commandments will be saved and protected by my mighty arm! The choice is clear! Be

    disobedient and incur my justice! Be obedient and enter my rest! And the world passeth

    away and the concupiscence thereof: but he that doth the will of God abideth forever. I

    John 2:17. The choice my people is yours. Let my Divine will become your will, my

    peace your peace, and my presence your presence. Enter my era of peace today in your

    soul and one day enter my eternal rest. Be as Joshua and Caleb and enter the promised

    land! My earth will be cleansed, my justice dispensed, and an era of peace as promised by

    my prophets, my church, and my son’s Blessed Mother Mary at Fatima will be given to

    mankind. The words of the Lord.
     
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  19. Verne dagenais

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  20. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Thanks Kathy for posting this. God bless you
     

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