Cletus Schefers

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by kathy k, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    There is one sentence that I do not fully understand on pages 85 and 86. Can someone help interpret these words highlighted?>>
    The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. In these the second death hath no power. But they shall be priests of God and of Christ: and shall reign with him a thousand years. This first resurrection occurs in the era of peace. My saints will be resurrected and receive glorified bodies and walk among my people, teaching and instructing the Catholic faith. This has been described as the temporal kingdom by the Church Fathers.
     
  2. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    I didn't help at all showing you in GSWYL? Great, posting just isn't worth it. Please, the underlined, I have always believed this because of the prophetic.

    I thought your last post to me (thanks for the follow up) was your way of thanking me for sticking with the anti-Christ comes soon, in our time before the Era of Peace? You discovered this fact finally while fishing and reading further GSWYL.

    I know what you first said and others have read our discussion. The same as some people at Unveiling the Apocalypse, I disagreed with you and them. There cannot be two sequence of events. We should definitely be aware of who is going to come at us all soon. You returned with no, the anti-Christ comes after the Era of Peace, saying this more than once.

    I posted Cletus and Verne quotes to help show this is not true. It took you reading them for your self but I posted them. I then shared the recent Pastor Enoc message about not looking at the anti-Christ. This is in our time, the 6th Day.

    We both learned Fatima, Father Iannuzzi, from his book on the anti-Christ, Father said the anti-Christ comes at both times but mainly before the Era of Peace.
     
  3. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

  4. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Verne,

    Since the antichrist is already on the scene, would you have any ideas as to who it might be?
    Thanks.
     
  5. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    This picture is on the website god speakers will you listen and can be downloaded. Also I have several pictures left with the story of a woman being healed . If you send me your address I can mail one to you
     
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  6. Verne dagenais

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    Yes I knew father reiser. It was sad he passed away. You probably knew Cletus then. He was the tall older man who was heavy set with the long beard and grey hair. I first met him at little Mary's meetings. Also my son was healed after little Mary prayed over him. It is too bad little Mary's meetings and messages stopped.
     
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  7. Verne dagenais

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    I do not know. I think this person is hidden until revealed by the Holy Spirit. Also, I do not want to speculate because the antichrist is cast into hell. I do not wish that fate on anyone. I know God will let us know when it is the proper time.
     
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  8. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Hi ,
    I am the Verne listed on these messages. I am not a theologian. I was fairly new to the catholic faith when I wrote these messages down. Also I was not raised catholic and did not have a great understanding of the catholic faith. After I wrote these down, I put them away until I showed them to Cletus who read them and shared them with others to make sure of their authenticity. There is a father ianuzzi who wrote some books about these topics. I think God is warning us through many different methods. Looking at our world, it is becoming more conceivable a person called antichrist could arrive on the world scene. But I do know if mankind would repent these events could be put off into the future. Like Nineveh, God warned them what would happen if they didn't repent. I think God is doing the same thing today.
     
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  9. Verne dagenais

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    First , thanks for your kind words. I have never even heard of Ottavio michelini. I attended a meeting with Sadie jaramillo. She came up to me out of the blue and said I'm tired, it is your turn. I thought nothing of it. If I recall, several months later I started writing these words down. Most of these messages came at different hrs of the day. I was not familiar with God giving information to people. But this was different. I never experienced this before. I really think these were Cletus's messages too. God informed him he was to write a book, but he could hardly write. So I met Cletus and started to receive these messages. Cletus told me these messages were what God revealed to him. So he took them and discerned them along with others, including some clergy. He would never publish a book if it was wrong. These books were also blessed by local clergy. I am not the one to judge the validity of Christina Gallagher. I just wrote the words down and gave them to Cletus. I have went to the house of prayer in mn and was impressed by father mcginnity and Christina's talks. It is up to higher authorities to decide the validity of private revelation. Finally, many of these messages were answers from God to me about questions I had. I never thought a book would be made out of these messages. I am the one who needs these messages. I come from a background of demonic oppression and abuse. For example my grandfather according to my mom, was a 33rd degree mason. Much of what I learned about the catholic faith came from this book and Cletus. I was raised the Catholic Church was the antichrist. I even renounced Christianity and took vows to witchcraft. Even to this day, if I am not careful, I can fall into this trap. I am surprised how this book has helped others. People even told me people, converted to the Catholic Church after reading this book . I thank God that others have been helped by this book.
     
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  10. Verne dagenais

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    I think God wanted me to find it. I have been having great spiritual problems for the last 1.5 yrs since Cletus and my father died. I had forgot about this book and I needed to be reminded of the information in it. I typed in the name of the book and my name just to see what would show up. I was shocked to see people discussing this book. I had fallen out of grace and this made me think about the past and how God worked. I think God used this forum along with other things to help me overcome these dark days. I am a weak person and God has to remind me of truth. I read other messages before these were written down. All I know is the bible says ask and it shall be given. I asked God questions and he gave me answers. It is up to others to decide the validity of these messages. All I know it helped me understand the catholic faith, coming from a Protestant, atheistic , occult background.
     
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  11. Peter B

    Peter B Powers

    Thanks so much for your reply, Verne. We really hope this forum can be helpful to you spiritually, so pleased be assured of our prayers!
    Blessings
     
  12. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    Verne, praise our merciful God! He has brought all of us back a time or two! (y)

    I will say this once more. Your messages to me are the most deep, yet understandable messages in one compendium. Now that I have finished the whole book, I would like to make a comment on something that it missed in my other studies. There was a gap in your messages that our Lord did not dwell on. Well, not really a gap, just no elaboration on a very important period prior to the anti-Christ. The Era of Peace, where it fits into the current period we are in and up until the time of the anti-Christ.

    So today, I re-read the most reliable source of messages from our Lady, to two small children at La Sallette, France. These 'Church Approved' messages of La Sallette fit exactly into your messages Verne, with the exception that Our Lady breaks out the first Tribulation, which we are on the threshold of entering, and the 2nd Tribulation that comes after the Era of Peace. Our Lady of La Sallette teaches that the Era of Peace that she ushers in will be a period of approximately 25 years before people fall back to their wicked ways. Then comes the period of THEE anti-Christ in the flesh incarnate Satan.

    Before anyone panics, please read Verne's messages from God http://www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org/index.html (When you open this link above you will get some informaion on Cletus. Scroll down towards the bottom of the link and click on Please download the book at no charge, God Speaks Will You Listen from here you will see all of Verne's messages. His messages start on page 12 with his name on the top of the messages) and our Lady of La Sallette's messages can be found here www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1846sallette.asp

    These two messages from Verne (2007) and our Lady of La Sallatte, France (1848) mirror each other like none other.
     
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  13. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    Verne, please see the private message on top right in the envelope by clicking on the envelop. I will provide my e-mail to you there. Thanks
     
  14. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Thankyou Fatima and thankyou Verne.
     
  15. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    Verne you are a very blessed man. I can only imagine how much Satan must hate you after leaving his ranks. But, God's love is immeasurably greater that the devils hatred. I will keep you in my daily prayers. I would love to hear how your conversion from devils grasp took place sometime. What level of Freemasonry is considered satanic?
     
  16. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Verne,

    Your messages so far really speak to me. I have just begun them but already feel such a connection to them with my own past. I was a craddle Catholic who fell far away from the church. Many on here know my story already but I will give you the cliff notes version. In the end of 2004 my first child was born with a terminal illness. I came running back to the church. My pride and arrogance did not allow me to stay back with the church very long and I was lurred away by May of 2005 to the world of New Age. I became so engulfed with all things New Age and really begain to despise my Catholic upbringing. I truly thought this was the way to God and I loved him with all my heart but I have come to realize that I did not love him at all and really I only just loved myself. I was so selfish. My daughter died in 2006 and even this wasn't enough to bring me home. I stayed in this New Age world until the beginning of Lent in 2013. I felt this overwhelming pull to come back to the true word and faith. I gave up a ton for lent and wanted to stick to it this time. On St. Patrick's day of 2013 I humbled myself fully before the Lord and called out in tears for him to have mercy on me and forgive me for all my wrongs against him; for all my arrogance and pride and foolishness. Last year was such a wonderful, hard and amazing year. I sit here and reflect back on how completely my life has changed. I have really gone from one end of the spectrum to the other. I used to maybe go to church 2 times a year and now I feel sorrow that I can only get there 3-4 times a week. I never prayed and now find myself almost in constant prayer and growing every day. I never prayed the rosary or chaplet of divine Mercy and now try to do them at least 5 days a week if not every day. I would never go to confession even when I was Catholic and now try to go 3 times a month but really feel that I could go everday just to confess the sins of pride, anger and arrogance that I still battle with.

    It saddens me to say I too doubted everything about Mary and now I love her with all my heart and talk to her all day. Even when I was coming back, I would still battle many about the importance of Mary and I just did not understand or get it. I was coming back to God and felt as many Protestants felt about Mary. I just did not think she was important at all. Boy was I wrong and boy did she grab me and hold me close even though I struggled to get away from her loving, motherly embrace. I am truly her slave now and she has my heart to do with whatever she wants! What a difference a year makes. I am so grateful to have found your messages so far because so far a lot of what you must have felt or have gone through reminds me so much of my past and now my transformation. It saddens me to hear you had lost your way and had doubts again recently but am so grateful that now, for some reason you have found this tiny corner of the internet to learn and grow with so many devout and wonderful people that I have come to know, respect and love greatly in such a short time. I look forward to finish your messages but just had to stop after reading your second message and respond to you how much I can relate so far. God Bless You Verne! Stay the course my friend. Fight the evil one that is trying to get you back and bring doubt and lies back into your life! Remember, you are always safe in the loving arms of Jesus and his most Holy Mother!
     
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  17. Thomas

    Thomas Angels

    What a thoughtful post, Andy! Welcome back to the Church! I, too, fell away from the Church for many years. I, too, dabbled in the new age nonsense. But slowly and surely, God led me back. He was very gentle, I must say that and I am grateful to Him for it.

    We all struggle with sin, so you are not alone. Know that and take some comfort in it. Thankfully, there is this forum where we can reach out and share our experiences, seek encouragement and prayers to help bolster our struggles.

    Welcome home!
     
  18. Verne, welcome back brother! Never quit fighting! I wanted to tell you about a book called 'Healing of Families' http://healingoffamilies.net/Ministry.html by Father Yozefu Ssemakula. He is an exorcist and priest from Uganda. Michael Brown from www.spiritdaily.com has written some articles on this.
    This book/CD is wonderful! Father explains about family 'bondages'. Freemasonry, the occult, alcoholism and all the 'isms'. and how to break these bondages within families. He travels around and you can look at his schedule online. You can do it alone, or with a priest, but the freemasonry prayers must be said with a priest. It is so wonderful that I decided to give a copy to all of my seven children and spouses. This is the greatest gift I could give my children! My husband and I have done it and now feel like the weight of the world is off of our shoulders. Father says that in 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months and 3 years incredible miracles will happen after you have done it. He has seen physical and spiritual miracles happen, including twin boys born deaf begin to hear!

    I recommend this to you because we all have 'stuff' and bondages we are dealing with and the evil one COUNTS on us collapsing under the weight of it all.

    There is hope! Please consider this. God Bless you!
     
  19. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Thank you. One of my friends suggested this book also. I think God must be telling me something. Two different people in the last month recommending this book. Thanks. I have not given up hope. I went to confession and church on Saturday and have seen much improvement. God bless you.
     
  20. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Thank you for your encouragement.
     

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