The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes it is different reading Prophecy when they are actually happening or have happened. It is like watching a black and white film compared to a coloured one.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Bless him.
     
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  3. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    My pastor leads us in saying it at the end of Mass. So does another pastor at a neighboring parish.
     
  5. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Our church says it at the end of Mass.
     
  6. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    So does ours. I believe many do now.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I always say it at the end of the rosary. That way I don't forget.:)
     
  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    All that huge amount of money and resource into synodality that has practically bankrupted the Church. What have we got back from it all?

    That is indeed the bottom line. Nothing but trouble.
     
  10. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    From Dr. Stine today, a short video on 'Bishop Announces Devil Is Not Real and Does Not Get Excommunicated'.

     
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  11. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    Possibly a response to the Bishop's comments discussed in the video above but this was posted on Totus Tuus Fb page today:

    "Around the year 490, on Monte Gargano in southern Italy, a wealthy landowner found his lost bull kneeling at the entrance of a mysterious cave. When he shot an arrow at the animal, the arrow miraculously reversed and wounded him instead.

    Bishop Lorenzo Maiorano of Siponto ordered three days of prayer and fasting. On the third day, the Archangel Michael appeared in glory and declared:

    “I am the Archangel Michael, and I stand always in the presence of God. This cave is sacred to me. I have chosen it. I myself am its watchful guardian. Where the rock opens wide, the sins of men can be forgiven. What is asked here in prayer will be granted. Go and dedicate this place to Christian worship in my name and in honor of all the angels.”

    Later, when the bishops prepared to consecrate the cave, St. Michael appeared again and said he had already consecrated it himself. Inside they found an altar prepared with a red cloth and a cross, plus the imprint of the Archangel’s foot in the rock.

    That grotto became the Sanctuary of Monte Sant’Angelo — the oldest shrine in Western Europe dedicated to St. Michael. For over 1,500 years, pilgrims have sought his powerful protection there.

    St. Michael claimed the place. He demanded the shrine. He still defends all who call upon him.

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Amen."

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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't intend to be depressing but this from Pope Leo is of the very gravest concern.

     
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  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    ITS TIME TO CLEAN OUT THE STABLES POPE LEO

    LARRY CHAP ON CATHOLIC UNSCRIPTED

     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If I think I have an authentic, living relationship with Jesus, I test this with the Teachings and Traditions of the Church and Scripture.

    I do not test the Teachings and Traditions of the Church and Scripture with my , 'Inner Jesus'.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Just listened to this earlier. He is very balanced i think--but very concerned.
     
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  16. padraig

    padraig Powers


    Matthew 8:23-27


    Jesus Calms the Storm
    23 Then he got into the boat and his disciples followed him. 24 Suddenly a furious storm came up on the lake, so that the waves swept over the boat. But Jesus was sleeping. 25 The disciples went and woke him, saying, “Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!”

    26 He replied, “You of little faith, why are you so afraid?” Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm.

    27 The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”



    Suppose you went back in a time machine and were living with Jesus and the Apostles. You notice Judas and how he is stealing money from the common fund. You grow more and more suspicious about his behaviour and goings on. You understand he is not a true follower but a traitor who can only mean harm. You start to talk more and more about Judas with the other disciples and are totally scandalised by him.

    But the thing is Jesus and Mary knew all about Judas. None of this was hidden from them. They were dealing with it.

    It is the same with the Church today. A Great storm has come to the Barque of Peter and Jesus appears to be sleeping. But He is far from sleeping and neither is Mary His mother. They are taking care of things in their own way and their own time.

    We were sent to Earth to work out our own salvation. None of us will be sent to hell because of the sins of other people.

    I think there is a real danger of getting too obsessed with all that is going on , to such an extent that we become distracted from our own sins and filings. Bishops and Cardinals and priests are different they have a duty as shepherds to protect their flocks. But we lay people , unless we have some special calling are not shepherds.

    I mean not to get to caught up in the storm. It is good to have a general sense of the general agenda of Rome and have a sense of the directions of things. But unless we have some special calling from God not to go whacking ourselves over the head all the time about it. Just to pray.

    For myself I have found a real deep peace and assurance about it all. There is a storm and Jesus appears to be sleeping. But the Church is his Bride and He will take care of her.

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  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You are the Church deep in rural Spain a living tabernacle living faithfully to your calling

    you are the body of Christ and individually members of it (1Corinthians 12:27).
     
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  18. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    From Pope Benedict XVI Fb page today:

    "How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

    Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be "tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine", seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one's own ego and desires."

    Joseph Card. Ratzinger, Homily,
    Pro Eligendo Romano Pontefice,
    18 April 2005.
     
  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It is the death of the supernatural. These dreadful people would, for instance, be horrified to discover the Mother of God Forum and would move heaven and Earth to wipe it out.
     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes, as St Paul said what shall separate us from Christ?

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